Need help with PCT with cycle

[william7487]

1-12 test prop 100 mg eod
1-8 tbol 60 mg day
1-12 Aromasin(ag-guys) 12.5mg daily(swith to ED last 2 weeks)
1-6 n2guard n2bm.com
9-12 winstrol 50 mg day
9-12 n2guard

13-14 test prop 50mg EOD (to lose water)

PCT 13-16
13-16 clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
13-14HCG 500-1000 iu/EOD
15-20 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-20 d-aa(natty test booster)

this is my first cycle. Looking for that hard aesthetic look. Looking at keeping water retention to a minimum. currently weigh 180lbs. probably going to drop down to 165-170lbs. I dropped the masteron from this first cycle cause I do have a signs of a receeding hairline. I hear you can take oral DHT blocker etc. However I plan on competing sometime this year and Im holding off til then to involve it in my cycle.

My main concern was the PCT.. pretty simple looking first cycle

 

[CanadianWolf]

Maybe throw in some ostarine at 25mgs a day but other than that looks solid.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

I don't think bol at 60mgs for 8 weeks is a good way to drop 10 - 15 lbs. or keep water retention down. We have your weight but what about your height? BF%? Age? Training experience? Your PCT is solid but why bol for that long to cut?

 

[Bigbuck166]

U should start hcg last 3 weeks of cycle and continue just after cycle b4 u start pct, not during pct. Keep diet clean and cardio up and u should get what ur looking 4! Good luck bro

 

[william7487]

I don't think bol at 60mgs for 8 weeks is a good way to drop 10 - 15 lbs. or keep water retention down. We have your weight but what about your height? BF%? Age? Training experience? Your PCT is solid but why bol for that long to cut?

from my understand 6-8 week is the normal run for tbol.. anadrol is a harsh compound. and dbol has big water weight gains and just like the anadrol very hard on the liver.

i weigh 180lb at 5'10. 26 years old been training for 8 years. I have pictures uploaded under my account. currently guesstimate no more than 8% body fat. Using this first cycle to get a feel before I start competing when I have to drop down to 3% body fat.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

I do feel that 8 weeks is on the long side but I wasn't only referring to the length, you know that "big water gains" are going to be there, so again I'll ask why would you take it if you want to avoid water retention and lose weight?

 

[william7487]

I do feel that 8 weeks is on the long side but I wasn't only referring to the length, you know that "big water gains" are going to be there, so again I'll ask why would you take it if you want to avoid water retention and lose weight?

Maybe there is some confusion here? Im talking about using T-bol(Turinabol) not D-bol(Dianabol) which are two different compounds. T-bol being said to be between D-Bol and anavar and a great compound for competitors that are cutting because of the strong anabolic effects without the added weight gain from water-retention are very favorable.

Again, anywhere from 6-8 weeks is the right amount of time because it isnt as anabolic as D-Bol and it takes time for the effects to be seen.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Ohhh I see, yeah I missed that, in that case I think you may be better suited lowering the dose, maybe only 30-40mgs a day would be more than enough for your goal. But other than that everything looks real good bro, what is your diet going to look like?

 

[william7487]

thanks pal!

 

[RickRock13]

Being on orals for 12 weeks straight is not a good idea at all. 8 weeks of Tbol followed by 4 weeks of Winstrol without a break will absolutely destroy your liver values and could cause some serious problems. Limit the Tbol to 6 weeks max, but even just two weeks off between the two orals is not long enough in my opinion.