need help with first cycle

[kalavera]

21 yrs
5'10"
182 Lbs
have lifted on and off for bout 3 years. I have been lifting seriously for 6 months (since I left the military)
Don't know my body fat, my arms are lean, but have lots of puge arround the stomach.
I try to eat as clean as I can, Mexico is the worst place for dieting.
I want to cut the fat and gain at least 15Lbs of LBM.
This will be my first time juicing
proposed cycle:

sustanon 250 readyjects are readly available, and cheap.
Trying to get some ttokkyo boldenon 200 localy.

to start:
front load EQ @ 600mg/week for 2 weeks
wk3-7 EQ @ 400mg/wk, sustanon 250
wk8-10 EQ @ 400mg/wk
PCT: 4wks of nolva, dont know if i should add some HCG.

Please, any and all info will be gratelly appreciated! Have tried my best to do the most research!
thanks!

 

[hammertime30]

21 yrs
5'10"
182 Lbs
have lifted on and off for bout 3 years. I have been lifting seriously for 6 months (since I left the military)
Don't know my body fat, my arms are lean, but have lots of puge arround the stomach.
I try to eat as clean as I can, Mexico is the worst place for dieting.
I want to cut the fat and gain at least 15Lbs of LBM.
This will be my first time juicing
proposed cycle:

sustanon 250 readyjects are readly available, and cheap.
Trying to get some ttokkyo boldenon 200 localy.

to start:
front load EQ @ 600mg/week for 2 weeks
wk3-7 EQ @ 400mg/wk, sustanon 250
wk8-10 EQ @ 400mg/wk
PCT: 4wks of nolva, dont know if i should add some HCG.

Please, any and all info will be gratelly appreciated! Have tried my best to do the most research!
thanks!

Don't like your cycle at all bro...........keep it simple for your first time....don't try to get so much out of your first cycle.....sus at 500mg per week 1-10 is good enough....focus on your training and diet and the rest will fall in place....and yes run HCG with clomid or else when your cycle ends, you will regret it 6 weeks later...........

 

[kalavera]

thanks for the responce.

wouldn't a cycle of EQ @ 600mg/wk be better and safer choice for the first time? I've read that it has very low to nonexistant side effects, and the gains are quality, and easy to maintain once you go off the cycle.

 

[NaturalOnlyAtBirth]

Give test a chance for your first cycle. Run it at 500mgs a week. EQ takes forever to kick in so you will probably get frustrated waiting 2 months to see real gains.

 

[slat1]

I would run test at 250mgs a wk for ten wks. HCG in the middle and clomid when the esters clear. I did that at 200lbs and put of 20lbs!

 

[help4john]

thanks for the responce.

wouldn't a cycle of EQ @ 600mg/wk be better and safer choice for the first time? I've read that it has very low to nonexistant side effects, and the gains are quality, and easy to maintain once you go off the cycle.

No....Hammer and Slat are correct. Please give Test a try first to determine your body's reactions. You should have good gains with minimal sides with a low dosage as suggested above. I reiterate, make sure your PCT is in order too. PCT is just as important as the cycle itself!

 

[kalavera]

ok, need some help with the PCT.
slatl says to do HCG arround wk 5, for how long? and after wk10 do I start clomid on wk11? do I keep HCG also, or just clomid? I've read that Nolvadex is better than clomid, which would be better for this?
Also a friend of mine has a few Deca's left, not sure what kind or how much.
But, as you guys have suggested I will stick to Sust for my first cycle.
But could someone clarify why they are sugesting I take 500mg instead of 250???


Thanks, but still a bit confused...

Supps info:
ON 100%
N-large2
Higher power creatine
and some Glutmaine, don't know if it works, but I bought it, so I gotta finish it...
Should I drop the creatine, or add any other supplements while Im on the cycle?
Again, thanks for all the info!

 

[help4john]

ok, need some help with the PCT.
slatl says to do HCG arround wk 5, for how long? and after wk10 do I start clomid on wk11? do I keep HCG also, or just clomid? I've read that Nolvadex is better than clomid, which would be better for this?
Also a friend of mine has a few Deca's left, not sure what kind or how much.
But, as you guys have suggested I will stick to Sust for my first cycle.
But could someone clarify why they are sugesting I take 500mg instead of 250???


Thanks, but still a bit confused...

Supps info:
ON 100%
N-large2
Higher power creatine
and some Glutmaine, don't know if it works, but I bought it, so I gotta finish it...
Should I drop the creatine, or add any other supplements while Im on the cycle?
Again, thanks for all the info!

Check out the PCT forum. A fella by the name of "Jenetic" is the resident king of PCT and we are lucky to have him!

Basically many of us run HCG 1000IU's MWF for two weeks mid cycle to keep the boys up and running. It is also used starting the week after last poke for three weeks...same routine MWF 1000IU's. (Please learn how to properly mix and store HCG first). Begin Clomid (not totally necessary with 250mg EW)after one full week of HCG is complete at 50mg ED in conjunction with 20mg Nolvadex ED for about 4-6 weeks. Jenetic has all this itemized out in an easy to read sticky on the PCT forum.

Good luck!

PS: Skip the Deca and use during your next cycle.