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jumpmaster82

jumpmaster82

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i have alot of trouble sleeping, which of course is horrible for making gains. Ive used xanax valium and ambien alot to help me ease into deep muscle building sleep. But i dont use them alot cuz i dont wana get addicted.
my question is what drugs out there are good for sleep that arent prescriptions. Like over the counter or unscheduled drugs. Whats good for getting to sleep?
 
I've heard eccinacia works , my wife uses it when she flyes.

Brad.
 
trazadomes are def prescribed pain pills lol but i really dont know all of my ideas are either illegal completely or prescribed only best of luck
 
trazadomes are def prescribed pain pills lol but i really dont know all of my ideas are either illegal completely or prescribed only best of luck worse come to worse try tylenal pm it may take 3-4 but it will knock ur ass out for some zzzzs
 
LB55 said:
trazadomes are def prescribed pain pills lol but i really dont know all of my ideas are either illegal completely or prescribed only best of luck worse come to worse try tylenal pm it may take 3-4 but it will knock ur ass out for some zzzzs
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I don't think trazedones are pain pills I think they're antipsychotics. But either way I'm trying to stay away from scripts and addictive shit. I have an unlimited supply of Xanax, which is like the best thing for sleep. I just don't like to use it alot from fear of addiction.
 
jumpmaster82 said:
I don't think trazedones are pain pills I think they're antipsychotics. But either way I'm trying to stay away from scripts and addictive shit. I have an unlimited supply of Xanax, which is like the best thing for sleep. I just don't like to use it alot from fear of addiction.
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ya thats pretty much bad for you and none of us on this board would ever swallow or inject anything into our systems that could do us harm i mean come on thats just stupid right lol but i think ur best option would be to just switch the drugs up xanax once or twice a week when needed then valiums once or twice the next week if needed and then go back to xanax it would keep ur immunity down to stop from making u have to take more and i think addiction would be to a minimum
 
LOL thanks 8, I don't know how I overlooked that one. My girl is outa town so it looks like my hand will have to get me to sleep tonight.
 
I used to take Tylenol PM (OTC) .....two of them definitely put me to sleep but I always woke up feeling groggy and I hated that.

Now I take 3mg of Lunesta (prescribed) when I want to fall asleep right away ...it definitely puts me on my ass into a VERY DEEP sleep within 20-30 minutes....I sleep like a rock. The only side effect is I get a bad taste in my mouth from the medicine....kind of metallic tasting. Also if I take the medicine (sometimes 1 pill but always with 2), then wait 20 minutes and try to walk around It makes me stumble around and I almost feel drunk lol....Lunesta is some strong shit. BTW, I don't feel like I am addicted to it...I just take it every once in a while.....


But everynight I take ZMA.....it doesn't put me to sleep but I hear it helps you stay asleep once you fall asleep.
 
i tried that valerian root stuff mixed with kava kava a few years back,,,worked pretty good..gave me very vivid dreams,,one of the two herbs were linked to cause liver problems though,,cant remember which one though
 
Jon79 said:
trazadone ....non narcodic

puts u on your ass
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Trazadone is a script, plus its an anti-depressant (SSRI re-uptake inhibitor) and it WILL cause you to gain fat! Plus, the side effects are miserable. I was on this crap a long time ago and I felt non-stop drowsy all day.

My doc prescribed Ambien-cr (new doc - left the old one) and immediately go to sleep (deep sleep) and wake up feeling refreshed and not tired at all. It's probably the perfect sleep med for me, and I've tried almost all of them.

When you do juice, you're not going to sleep and nothing over the counter is going to help..
 
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I'd have to agree. I've had sleeping problems for years bro. Dated a pharmacist for 3 yrs, she brought me all this OTC shit like, unisom, sleep-eze, bunch of shit that never worked, some of which made it worse believe it or not. Then of course, go to the doc, and all he wants to do is put me on prescription shit, which I'm having none of. After that winstrol a few weeks back, I really started having problems. A few guys in the gym told me about the aforementioned melatonin. Then this one sexy ass pilates instructor (oh fuck i wish i never had a gf) told me about this shit she takes called SleepMD. Well holy fuck...tried it 2 days ago, and i got a fucking great sleep. I could feel my legs falling asleep within minutes (semi-annoying, but whatever). All I could think, is where has this shit been all my life? Cheap as fuck, non-addictive, and has melatonin in it. Only thing is, apparently melatonin does not work for everyone. But isn't that the same with everyfuckingthing? I found it at GNC. Pretty sure any pharmacy should carry it tho bro...$15 for a month supply...maybe try that shit out. Good luck brotha!
 
hesnobradpitt said:
http://www.melatonin.com/
Sorry about that got it around the wrong way this is what she takes and sweers by it .
You can get it and the drug store .

Brad.
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Melatonin is great, I second that one. 3mg eod for me. Cheap at your local drug store.

You'll need to play with the time you take it. For me I need to take it about 4 hours before I want to sleep - for others it works in an hour.
 
Yogi brand tea makes a formula called "sleepy tea" that i thought worked well. you gotta buy it at whole foods or some shit
 
jumpmaster82 said:
i thought you had to have a script for trazadone?
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u do but my boy is a nurse and they don't consider the narcodic at the nursing home . so he just grabs me a handfull
 
jumpmaster82 said:
i have alot of trouble sleeping, which of course is horrible for making gains. Ive used xanax valium and ambien alot to help me ease into deep muscle building sleep. But i dont use them alot cuz i dont wana get addicted.
my question is what drugs out there are good for sleep that arent prescriptions. Like over the counter or unscheduled drugs. Whats good for getting to sleep?
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melatonin from g.n.c. 3mg. dose . I had to take at least 4 to sleep
 
I have tried real drugs ( precipt)

and nothing works better then Hot Milk ( dont microwave it use stove)

and added melatonin/valerian

also no stims past 3 pm
 
i've used every damn thing there is....xanax and valium are NOT long-term solutions, not at all. i rotate the following pretty regularly:

valerian (get the concentrated extract)
kava kava (again, get the extract)
L-theanine (absolutely harmless and really takes the edge off)
5-HTP (buy it anywhere)
baclophen (releases GH too)
GABA (also releases GH alot)
phenibut (in the GHB family, but nice every now and then)

and i personally find that 1 or 2 beers helps things along a great deal. i rarely drink too much, and research shows one or two is healthy.
 
couple things you can do: (sorry for any repeats)
1.) chamomile tea (probably with your size three or four tea bags)
2.) valarian root good stuff
3.) mlatonin
THESE TWO ARE HE BEST IN MY OPINION
4.) take 50 mgs 5 HTP three times throuhout the day and then 100mgs befre bed, this way your body can build its own serotonin levels back up to help you fall into REM
5 HTP eventually converts into melatonin and so usuing it throughou the day wil help you at night
5.) MY FAVORITE: High Tech Pharmacueticals makes this stuff caled somatomax
the suff is a growth hormone stimulater and a sleep ai boy will you be out like a lamp bro youll wake up the next day feling well rested if you get it though start out with half scoop shit isPOTENT!!
hope this helps good luck sleeping
 
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