need educated opinions...nolvadex vs clomid for subtle long-term androgenic effects

[Judo Tom]

Re: need educated opinions...nolvadex vs clomid for subtle long-term androgenic effec

again if you want to get 'bigger' you need to eat more. if money is holding you back you need to figure that out. if you are not growing on 3k cals start eating 4k. this really is a no brainer.

if you want some ideas for cheap cals here is a simple list that can help:
olive oil....add it to meals/shakes
eggs.. cheap and great cals
home baked bread super cheap and super dense in cals
tuna fish in oil again super dense in cals
chicken legs/thighs


if you want to boost your test unleashed is great and can be used long term. nolva/clomid are terrible ideas

 

[mryar]

Re: need educated opinions...nolvadex vs clomid for subtle long-term androgenic effec

I think he's looking for a way to raise T naturally. Beastrol will suppress him more.

Neither nolva or Clomid will increase testosterone -- at least not long term. And they both can have serious anti androgenc side effects .

UNLEASHED is your best bet.

I too thought poorly of nolva/clomid, mainly because it lowered IGF-1 levels. I looked into it however and it only lowers serum IGF-1 (which is not responsible for muscle growth, only cancerous tumor growth). Intramuscular IGF-1 is important to muscle growth and is not affected by nolva/clomid. Is this the anti-androgenic side effects you're talking about?

 

[RADAR]

Re: need educated opinions...nolvadex vs clomid for subtle long-term androgenic effec

again if you want to get 'bigger' you need to eat more. if money is holding you back you need to figure that out. if you are not growing on 3k cals start eating 4k. this really is a no brainer.

if you want some ideas for cheap cals here is a simple list that can help:
olive oil....add it to meals/shakes
eggs.. cheap and great cals
home baked bread super cheap and super dense in cals
tuna fish in oil again super dense in cals
chicken legs/thighs


if you want to boost your test unleashed is great and can be used long term. nolva/clomid are terrible ideas

I agree Clomid & Nova suck, a much better alternative would be Unleashed and Post Cycle.