NEED ADVISE 1st Cycle

[Toastracing]

I was wondering what is the best cycle for the sats im looking to achieve..
Im presently 5'10 between 165-170 pounds and 9% bf
Im looking to drop between 4-5bf somewhat keep the same weight , what kind of cycle would you experts recomend and diet wise im into the very low car high pro diet

Please respond
"Its not the size of the DAWG in the fight but the size of the fight in the DAWG"

 

[JMasters]

I would gain some serious mass. Stay around the 9-10% bodyfat but get huge bro. I would do a light cycle my first one though. Don't listen to anyone saying take enormous amounts of test. Just my opinion!

--JMasters

 

[MUSTANG_18]

At that weight I would seriously try to add some mass to your frame and then worry about cuting down later. But it's your choice. Botton line is, almost any compound can be used to "cut" with as it all depends on your diet. If you have a proper diet combined with cardiovascular and weight training then you will lose the body fat and the AAS will help preserve muscle mass. E-mail me if I can help ya out

M18

 

[Silent Method]

I was wondering what is the best cycle for the sats im looking to achieve..
Im presently 5'10 between 165-170 pounds and 9% bf
Im looking to drop between 4-5bf somewhat keep the same weight , what kind of cycle would you experts recomend and diet wise im into the very low car high pro diet

You just looking to drop fat? 4-5 what? Pounds? Percent?
Sound like you need to figure out nutrition not drugs.

 

[jet]

Toast, you want to get down to 4% bodyfat??? Ya me too!!! LOL

seriously, Jmaster is right on. Don't listen to these a-holes who recommend masive amount of test for your fist cycle.

I'd go with 300mg of EQ (400 max) and maybe throw in 200-300mg of test per week. for 8-10 weeks...these are the maximums for a 1st cycle.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I'd go with 300mg of EQ (400 max) and maybe throw in 200-300mg of test per week. for 8-10 weeks...these are the maximums for a 1st cycle.

I dis-agree, While low doses are good for a first cycle there is no set MAX. I would prefer to see 400mg/week of Eq and 500mg/week of Test both for 10 weeks and if everything else is on track you will see great growth. Everyone is diffrent, you have your opinion and I have mine so he will have to see for himself

M18

 

[Toastracing]

Im talking about 4-5% bf i was at 7 a year ago and weighting 155 and had somewhat the same frame i have now my friend told me to do some primo but i dont know that why im consulting you guys. The thing with my diets my weight flux alot ive recently seen about 10 pound swing in less than a week, so im looking to tighten up a bit more cause im really more into definition then bulkyness

thanks again for your quick response

 

[jet]

Mustang...Your a mod so you must be right. Anyway, 400/500 is not that excessive. It just pisses me off when I see bro's recommending 750-100mg of test along with 600mg of deca per week to some newbie that (for all we know) is a freshman in high school...I just think we need to be a little more responsible. I hate to see someone f*** theselves up because of a recommendation they got from this board.

I'm of the opinion that you should start off with low doses, see what the sides/results are and then work up from there.

 

[jet]

Toast if that is your goal, you might want to consider anavar...use BTG's if you can get them.

 

[Toastracing]

Thanks for the concern Jet but im 21 and yes i am a newbie to the gear....that why i might sound a bit out of place. Mustang how would you pyramid the eq/test cycle

thanks

 

[Toastracing]

BUMP!!! need some more replies

 

[Wrongun]

IMO you need to put on some mass. Remeber the most important thing is getting your diet, training and rest right. If you have that and have reached your natural plateau then look at this:

Deca durabolan - 400mg per week for 8 weeks
Sustanon 250 OR Testaviron depot - 500mg per week for 8 weeks
Dianabol - 35mg per day, 6 weeks

Here the Deca should be 400mg for optimum effects, and the Dianabol at the onset helps kick start the cycle while you are waiting for the longer acting Deca and test to take effect.

Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 10-14 days afterwards. You may hold a lot of water from this brought about by the Dianabol and the testosterone but this can be reduced by the use of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen or Arimidex.

The dosage of Dianabol may be divided out through out the day and taken every 3-4 hrs as it has such a short half-life. Take them with / after a protein-based meal.

The testosterone and the Deca can be split down into 3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

Hope this helps

Wrongun!

 

[jstrong20]

Thanks for the concern Jet but im 21 and yes i am a newbie to the gear....that why i might sound a bit out of place. Mustang how would you pyramid the eq/test cycle
thanks

Don't pryamid the doses thats an old school theory. Either run the doses straight or frontload. Frontloading means take twice as much for the first two weeks to get blood concentrations elevated quicker.

 

[Wrongun]

jstrong20 is right there is no need to taper my friend.

Wrongun!

 

[Toastracing]

Last and final BUMP

 

[deadend226]

Bro,
I'm young like you and although I don't have nearly as much first hand experience as some of these other guys I've been cruising these boards for a long time now. I would consider sticking to stuff like deca, winstrol, primobolan, and anavar for your first cycle. I seriously discourage using test, fina, sust, or dbol for your first cycle. But that's just my opinion bro, whatever you decide I hope it works out well for you.
DE