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NASCAR Drivers aren't athletes?!?!!

Lumberg

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By Jerry Bonkowski
Special to ESPN.com

It's been said so many times, usually accompanied by a snicker, that most auto racing fans pretty much come to expect it before the line is even finished.


"NASCAR drivers are athletes? Yeah, right! That's a good one!"


How many times have you heard that very same thing & or for that matter, were the one saying it? How many folks think hopping in a car and driving pedal-to-the-metal for a few hours is no more exerting than hitting the McDonald's drive-thru?


Well, it's time to set this straight. If anyone has any hesitation in saying that NASCAR drivers are athletes, it's time they seriously consider the feat that is Sunday's Coca-Cola 600 at Lowe's Motor Speedway.


It's the longest, most grueling and exhausting race of all the major motorsports' series (well, the 24 Hours of Le Mans deserves its own category, so it's exempt from this discussion). Indianapolis stops at 500, thinking that's enough. Formula One, well, forget it; the folks on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean wouldn't even think of racing on a track for 600 miles. They usually decide 70 warp-speed laps is plenty.


About the only thing that comes close to comparing is the off-road Baja 1000 -- but then, that's split up over a couple of days.


No, there is no other major race in the world that features just one driver that can match the Coca-Cola 600 for the challenge it presents and the physical, mental and emotional drain it puts on drivers.


They have to go 600 miles, which means 400 laps around the 1.5-mile LMS track, at average speeds hovering in the neighborhood of 150-mph or more. That means usually four hours-plus of straight-through, non-stop racing, with no breaks, no TV timeouts and having to endure the feeling of being like a piece of meat inside a microwave, with temperatures inside their race cars that oftentimes soar past 130 degrees.


Oh yeah, lest we forget, perhaps the biggest challenge facing drivers over the course of the race: not even one bathroom break. That's why when cars pull into the pits for the six or seven stops they'll have to have during the course of the event, drivers are very cautious about limiting their fluid intake to just enough water or energy drinks to give them a sample of refreshment, but not to the point where they have to stop the car, hop out and find the nearest Port-A-Potty.


"You get so dehydrated and can easily lose 10 pounds (off your body) in just that one race," said Tony Stewart, who nearly collapsed a couple of years ago when he exited his car after the 600. Of course, that was also the year Stewart performed the so-called "double-double," racing in the morning and early afternoon in the Indy 500, taking a quick jet to Charlotte, and then hopping into his stock car for the 600. That's 1,100 miles total & but another story in and of itself.


Let's translate what the 43 drivers will go through in Sunday's 600 in more layman terms. Take, for example, the upcoming family summer vacation, and hypothetically comparing racing in the Coca-Cola 600 to driving from New York to Los Angeles, more than 3,000 miles, straight through, in less than two days at, say, 80 miles per hour.


With only 15-second gas fill-up stops & and with no bathroom breaks.


That's pretty much the same concept of driving in the 600.



Dale Earnhardt Jr. gave up smoking to improve his chances of winning a title.


When the Coca-Cola 600's predecessor, the World 600, made its debut in 1960, the race was even longer -- oftentimes stretching to close to eight hours in length, because that was the nature of the mechanical beasts at the time, namely much slower race cars. It's a wonder how drivers managed to survive back then.


During this year's pre-season Nextel Cup media tour in the Charlotte area back in January, one of the main things many drivers talked about -- after discussing the merits of the upcoming 10-race, season within a season "Chase for the Championship -- was how keeping in shape has become more important in recent years.


A perfect example is Dale Earnhardt Jr. Not only will the driver of the red No. 8 Chevrolet turn 30 later this year, but he also knew it was time to get serious about his health and physical condition, to prepare as best he could for the grueling 40-race season (36 regular season races and four exhibitions), if he was going to mount a serious challenge for this season's championship.


Not only did Junior reportedly quit smoking, he also started watching his weight and what he was eating and cut way back on partying. The reason is simple: He wanted to have the energy to sustain the whole season. Many drivers actually turn their in-season physical conditioning programs up a couple notches a few weeks before the 600.


There's numerous other drivers who approach their physical conditioning just like their driving: serious and straight-forward, including veterans like the seemingly ageless Mark Martin, who may be 45 in years, but has the stamina and physical shape of a 25-year-old. There's others like Jeff Burton, who could easily take on someone twice his size.


Or what about Robby Gordon, who will be attempting his fourth "double-double" Sunday, starting his day in the Circle City (Indy) and finishing in the Queen City (Charlotte).


In one of his pre-race diaries for The Associated Press this week, Gordon talked about the significance of not only diet, but the mind's focus.


"I've discovered that doing the "double" is more mental than physical, at least for me," he said. "There's no doubt, though, the effects of 3.5 G-loads in the turns at Indy and a humid night in Charlotte will strain my 35-year-old body.


"For years my pre-race ritual has been to eat a turkey sandwich, but on Sunday morning, I plan instead to drink plenty of liquids. There's so much wind rushing around in an open-cockpit Indy car that you don't have the same sense of heat buildup and dehydration as in a fully enclosed stock car. Two years ago, I got severe stomach cramps during the Coca-Cola 600 because I'd lost more body fluids than I realized. I won't let that happen again."


So it's pretty apparent that staying in shape has become serious business for Nextel Cup drivers, both for Sunday's 600-mile joust, as well as the several thousands of miles they log during the course of the season on racetracks from Daytona, Fla., to Fontana, Calif.


Race car drivers aren't athletes? That's the easy mantra for those who have never tried it.


For while they might not be able to go one-on-one against Shaquille O'Neal on a basketball court, it's a sure bet they could outlast him behind the wheel.


Jerry Bonkowski covers NASCAR for ESPN.com. He can be reached at [email protected].
 
"Gawdang it! Dem Nascer drivers are so athletes! They's gots ta be's able to handle all thems there hurspower fer hours!"
 
I'm not sold.

They sit down for 4-5 hours. They have piss tubes if they need to go. Being a good driver does not make you an athelete. I'm positive I can outrun 95% of those guys in a 400.
 
BrandonXJ said:
I'm not sold.

They sit down for 4-5 hours. They have piss tubes if they need to go. Being a good driver does not make you an athelete. I'm positive I can outrun 95% of those guys in a 400.

It all depends on what you consider an athlete to be. If it is 100% physical, then golfers and race car drivers are not athletes. However, I think golfers are athletes, just not physically impressive ones. But shit, golf is probably the most difficult sport out there in terms of skill and mental toughness.
 
KillahBee said:
It all depends on what you consider an athlete to be. If it is 100% physical, then golfers and race car drivers are not athletes. However, I think golfers are athletes, just not physically impressive ones. But shit, golf is probably the most difficult sport out there in terms of skill and mental toughness.

I guess, but pro golfers (except that wheelchair dude) are required to wallk 18. If you're not used to it, 18 holes can be a workout.
 
BrandonXJ said:
I guess, but pro golfers (except that wheelchair dude) are required to wallk 18. If you're not used to it, 18 holes can be a workout.


my point is that sports are not 100% physical, that is usually the easy part.
 
Dude, they are so athletes.

When we went to the IMAX theater in NO, they were showing a movie about NASCAR. In one scene, you could see Gordon actually benching dumbells in a gym.

A-fucking-mazing.
 
Lumberg said:
By Jerry Bonkowski
Oh yeah, lest we forget, perhaps the biggest challenge facing drivers over the course of the race: not even one bathroom break. That's why when cars pull into the pits for the six or seven stops they'll have to have during the course of the event, drivers are very cautious about limiting their fluid intake to just enough water or energy drinks to give them a sample of refreshment, but not to the point where they have to stop the car, hop out and find the nearest Port-A-Potty.

Wow, what a compelling argument. If kiding your shit and holding your piss is characteristic of an athlete, then I'm Jim fucking Thorpe. And don't kid me for a second, Jerry, if you don't think Dale Jarrett pisses himself at Darlington.
 
So are pro chess players atheletes?

They can't have bathroom breaks.
They sit down for hours on end.
 
you def need endurance to drive for long periods of time,especially fighting the car to do what you want

I challange anyone who says they arent athlete to run the indy 500 one day and another 400mile race later the same day like tony stewart did last year or the year before and see how you fair,btw he was top 5 in both
 
Truck drivers must be TOP atheletes then.



TheOak01 said:
you def need endurance to drive for long periods of time,especially fighting the car to do what you want

I challange anyone who says they arent athlete to run the indy 500 one day and another 400mile race later the same day like tony stewart did last year or the year before and see how you fair,btw he was top 5 in both
 
different story when your going 200mph,as for truck drivers its taxing driving so far,I know alot of my family drove but the difference 60mph and 200mph is huge
 
How about when the power steering goes out?

I just posted that article cos I have seen this discussed before. I don't care if it's truly a sport or whatever. I just love to watch and follow it.
 
TheOak01 said:
different story when your going 200mph,as for truck drivers its taxing driving so far,I know alot of my family drove but the difference 60mph and 200mph is huge

Trucking driving isn't a different story just a different type of "athlete". They would be the cross-country runners and the nascar would be the sprinters if we were talking about real athletes. Which we're not. Just because something is hard does not mean it makes you an athlete.
 
I cant put them in the same catergory because not anyone can get in a nascar and run 500mile at 200mph ,truck driving can be done by anyone,its tiring and boring,but I dont see much physical tolls unless you count the shit food ya eat on the road
 
TheOak01 said:
I cant put them in the same catergory because not anyone can get in a nascar and run 500mile at 200mph ,truck driving can be done by anyone,its tiring and boring,but I dont see much physical tolls unless you count the shit food ya eat on the road
Long hours and long miles with little sleep.
 
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crew9 said:
Trucking driving isn't a different story just a different type of "athlete". They would be the cross-country runners and the nascar would be the sprinters.
 
crew9 said:
Long hours and long miles with little sleep.


true,I just think the higher speeds would make it far more taxing,not that driving isnt hard,Ive sat in the cab of a truck from toronto to Austin and I was beat,but I have watched the in car nascar stuff and they are always shifting fighting the wheel which pulls pretty hard

just looks overall more tiring
 
TheOak01 said:
true,I just think the higher speeds would make it far more taxing,not that driving isnt hard,Ive sat in the cab of a truck from toronto to Austin and I was beat,but I have watched the in car nascar stuff and they are always shifting fighting the wheel which pulls pretty hard

just looks overall more tiring

The faster speeds would definitely be more taxing. I am also not saying that what they do is not hard, because quite simply it is very hard. My point is they are simply not athletes. Intelligence and training are all you need to be a driver. You can train all you want but the average person will not be an elite athlete
 
Its very hard for people to realize how hard and taxing it is until they have been to a race or driven a car going 180 mph. I’ve driven a car 180 mph for maybe a minute or two and it was very taxing never mind scary as hell. I don’t think I could drive that fast with other cars around me for hours at a time never mind be good at it.
 
do you think there is any hope of a successful woman driver in nascar? i'd be up for the job, i'd get venus razor to be my sponsor and i'd rock a bright red paint scheme..... :roadster:
 
tripleblonde said:
do you think there is any hope of a successful woman driver in nascar? i'd be up for the job, i'd get venus razor to be my sponsor and i'd rock a bright red paint scheme..... :roadster:


We all know women can't drive! :)
 
When the guys get out of their cars at the end of a race they are literally drenched in sweat. Both from the heat and the exertion (I guarantee you that even if the interior of the car were a cool 68 degrees they'd still be weating their asses off).

Can you say the same for chess players and truck drivers?

Just throwing it out there as devil's advocate.
 
I think there is an up-and-coming female F1 driver.



tripleblonde said:
do you think there is any hope of a successful woman driver in nascar? i'd be up for the job, i'd get venus razor to be my sponsor and i'd rock a bright red paint scheme..... :roadster:
 
Code said:
I think there is an up-and-coming female F1 driver.

there have been a number of female drivers in Nextel cup. Shawna Robinson being the most recent. I think there is a truck series regular who is femail.

Sarah Fischer is a heck of a driver, she at least used to be a regular in either IRL or CART, I forget which. I think her best career finish is second. She has also won at least one pole.
 
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