My upcoming cycle: Lose Fat and Maintain/build maybe.

[RvN]

Ok guys, am a little heavier than i should be but am well on the road to getting back to my old 'fighting weight', so soon (when im back to where i want to be)i will be indulging in a cycle, bear in mind with this cycle i wish to maintain my current mass whilst losing bodyfat(yes i know, the age old debate lol), so here goes...

T3 throughout, unsure of dosage atm, suggestions?

Weeks 1-12 Eq@200-400 per week (unsure of dosage atm)

Weeks 1-6 Dbol @20mg per day

Weeks 6-10 Winny Tabs@ 50mg per day

10-12 Clen (2 weeks on/off with ECA)

Nolva on hand for Gyno probs/PCT, you guys think i will need Clomid or HCG with this cycle??

Im around 230 @6'1", Unsure of BF%. Still have quite a bit of mass from before i laid off training tho.

I know some of you will tell me to lean out before doing the cycle but im definitely going to be doing this cycle within the next 4-6 weeks.

Does the cycle look ok to you guys, bearing in mind my goals?

Cheers.

 

[RvN]

Ok guys, am a little heavier than i should be but am well on the road to getting back to my old 'fighting weight', so soon (when im back to where i want to be)i will be indulging in a cycle, bear in mind with this cycle i wish to maintain my current mass whilst losing bodyfat(yes i know, the age old debate lol), so here goes...

T3 throughout, unsure of dosage atm, suggestions?

Weeks 1-12 Eq@200-400 per week (unsure of dosage atm)

Weeks 1-6 Dbol @20mg per day

Weeks 6-10 Winny Tabs@ 50mg per day

10-12 Clen (2 weeks on/off with ECA)

Nolva on hand for Gyno probs/PCT, you guys think i will need Clomid or HCG with this cycle??

Im around 230 @6'1", Unsure of BF%. Still have quite a bit of mass from before i laid off training tho.

I know some of you will tell me to lean out before doing the cycle but im definitely going to be doing this cycle within the next 4-6 weeks.

Does the cycle look ok to you guys, bearing in mind my goals?

Cheers.

Bump for a good bro in need of advice...

 

[Makavelli]

Ok guys, am a little heavier than i should be but am well on the road to getting back to my old 'fighting weight', so soon (when im back to where i want to be)i will be indulging in a cycle, bear in mind with this cycle i wish to maintain my current mass whilst losing bodyfat(yes i know, the age old debate lol), so here goes...

T3 throughout, unsure of dosage atm, suggestions?

Weeks 1-12 Eq@200-400 per week (unsure of dosage atm)

Weeks 1-6 Dbol @20mg per day

Weeks 6-10 Winny Tabs@ 50mg per day

10-12 Clen (2 weeks on/off with ECA)

Nolva on hand for Gyno probs/PCT, you guys think i will need Clomid or HCG with this cycle??

Im around 230 @6'1", Unsure of BF%. Still have quite a bit of mass from before i laid off training tho.

I know some of you will tell me to lean out before doing the cycle but im definitely going to be doing this cycle within the next 4-6 weeks.

Does the cycle look ok to you guys, bearing in mind my goals?

Cheers.

Use 400 mgs of EQ for the whole 12 weeks, up the D-Bol to 40 mgs/day and only use it for 4 weeks. Run the winny as planned, but I'd also add in some test.

 

[RvN]

Use 400 mgs of EQ for the whole 12 weeks, up the D-Bol to 40 mgs/day and only use it for 4 weeks. Run the winny as planned, but I'd also add in some test.

First of all, thanks for the reply, You really think i should add test?, im not particularly advanced re: cycles (previously done 3 Oral cycles, Dbol, Androxon, Pronabol - altho these were a long time ago -and made good gains) Priorities are a lil diff this time, hence the lack of androgenic gear, Dbol aside of course...lol. Still, if you guys think i should add test, then any suggestions/dosages please?

 

[RvN]

First of all, thanks for the reply, You really think i should add test?, im not particularly advanced re: cycles (previously done 3 Oral cycles, Dbol, Androxon, Pronabol - altho these were a long time ago -and made good gains) Priorities are a lil diff this time, hence the lack of androgenic gear, Dbol aside of course...lol. Still, if you guys think i should add test, then any suggestions/dosages please?

Btw, when i start my cycle i will post current pics of myself, hopefully there will be a dramatic change at the end.

Also, any suggestions Re: the T3 dosage guys?

 

[swordfish151]

First of all, thanks for the reply, You really think i should add test?, im not particularly advanced re: cycles (previously done 3 Oral cycles, Dbol, Androxon, Pronabol - altho these were a long time ago -and made good gains) Priorities are a lil diff this time, hence the lack of androgenic gear, Dbol aside of course...lol. Still, if you guys think i should add test, then any suggestions/dosages please?

How long ago did you run your last cycles?

 

[RvN]

How long ago did you run your last cycles?

last one was around 5 years ago mate.

 

[quizkid]

I add test in every cycle.

 

[shamrock11]

You want the test for a couple of reason it will hwlp with the LMB, plus it will help keep some muscle since T3 and clen will make you lose some muscle along with bodyfat. You need the test to compensate.

 

[RvN]

You want the test for a couple of reason it will hwlp with the LMB, plus it will help keep some muscle since T3 and clen will make you lose some muscle along with bodyfat. You need the test to compensate.

Ok, i figured the Eq would maintain my mass tho?, if not, what type of test/dosages do you recommend?.

Alos, any advice on T3 dosage?

Thanks again.

 

[Outtlaw]

You can run the dbol for six weeks if you want, 30-35mg should be sufficient. And if you're gonna do the winstrol I'd push it back a couple of weeks and start it around wk 8 or 9.

 

[shamrock11]

Ok, i figured the Eq would maintain my mass tho?, if not, what type of test/dosages do you recommend?.

Alos, any advice on T3 dosage?

Thanks again.

I would run 200mg twice a week, Monday/Thursday, of test euth or cypt. I can't help too much with the T3 since I have never taken it or read much about it. I would run the winny up until the day before you plan on starting PCT. So maybe week 9 or 10 since you plan on starting PCT three weeks after your last deca shot. I hope this helps man.

 

[biggsben]

there are some threads on T3 around, do alot of reading before oyu go for it it can have some hard sides, make sure you slowly taper the dose up and down you can probly get away without it if you want to stay side free but if your going to do it stay low. I am pretty sure( someone correct me if I am wrong) you can run it around 12.5MCG without thyroid shutdown anymore then that around 25-50MCG will shut you down.

 

[aka Puffy]

Okay this is just my opinion,. please take it for what its worth. I am sure they will be alot of people that disagree but oh well thats why this is a open forum.

First off D-bol is crap...... It is a absolute waste of time and money for what you are trying to accomplish..... This statement alone is enough to ruin this thread..

Secondly Test is a Must, I would most defintly recomment Test Prop at 100mg 3x weekly. As a secondy option Cyp or enthate same doseage 1x weekly.

EQ 400mg Yes right on track here, T3 persoanlly would run 50-75mcg daily with Clen. No need to cycle clen, T# will keep you from donw regulating.

Winstral is another great way to go here, Other options would be Tren Acetete 50-75 mgs ed or eod. for first 4-6 weeks. You might throw in some primo or some masteron at the end of cycle..... HCG is a must, otherwise don't bother with the cycle you will lose most of it. If you have any other questions pm back.

Good luck!

 

[RvN]

Okay this is just my opinion,. please take it for what its worth. I am sure they will be alot of people that disagree but oh well thats why this is a open forum.

First off D-bol is crap...... It is a absolute waste of time and money for what you are trying to accomplish..... This statement alone is enough to ruin this thread..

Secondly Test is a Must, I would most defintly recomment Test Prop at 100mg 3x weekly. As a secondy option Cyp or enthate same doseage 1x weekly.

EQ 400mg Yes right on track here, T3 persoanlly would run 50-75mcg daily with Clen. No need to cycle clen, T# will keep you from donw regulating.

Winstral is another great way to go here, Other options would be Tren Acetete 50-75 mgs ed or eod. for first 4-6 weeks. You might throw in some primo or some masteron at the end of cycle..... HCG is a must, otherwise don't bother with the cycle you will lose most of it. If you have any other questions pm back.

Good luck!

Hey thanks for your reply man, I must admit, i wasnt too sure whether to stick Dbol in there either, besides which ive only ever done orals in the past (3 cycles many years ago - i wuz a pussy then)and wanted to just do the one oral during this cycle(Winny). So im looking at -

Unsure about using Test Prop, Dont fancy sticking myself 3x week - altho i'm not ruling it out altogether if you guys think its DEFO better to use than Test E.

Test Enanthate/Cyp @ 300Mg per week(should that be 250mg?)
Eq @ 400Mg per week
Winny @ 50Mg Ed last 4 weeks.
Hcg(dosage?)
T3 throughout.
Nolva/Clomid etc.

I will be posting Before/After pics after i complete this cycle, hopefully there will be a good change in my physique. (fat loss)

 

[Makavelli]

I'd use around 400 mgs of test/wk. For the T3 don't use it until you have to. What that means is that if your metabolism slows down and you're not losing any more bf, then add it in. Start off with 25 mcgs/day and increase one tab a day every 4-5 days until you feel that you are losing an appreciable amount of bf. I wouldn't recommend going over 75 mcgs/day for what you're trying to do.