My thoughts on LGD-4033 after 14 days

[gatesmarch]

I know LGD is the new kid on the block, so I figured I'd add my experience for those who are still observing guinea pigs. First, Unique is amazingly fast and quick to respond on e-mails. A+ for service.

My stats: 39 years old
5'9"
weight? I've used my mirror for the last 2 years.
My stack: LGD-4033 3mg ED
MG's Supertest Booster 8 caps/day (Test support)
Bulbine 2x daily (Test Support)
PES Erase (AI)
Creatine, Men's Multi, Fish oil, Flax oil,
Bettancourt Bullnox Pre workout
Xtend during workout
ON Whey

My diet: I was cutting when I bought this so I'm pretty much
sticking with what I was eating...which isn't very much
Egg whites, Oatmeal, dry tuna, lots of protein shakes,
fruits and veggies

Results thus far:

Strength: Progression is pretty much unchanged. Nothing majorly noticeable at all. I actually lost a rep on my bench today and felt overall weaker, but I'm at the end of my HST 5 rep stage of the cycle so things are getting really heavy and more rest may be required and, again, my diet is minimal.

Endurance: This is where this stuff really shines for me. This
and Bullnox combined made me not want to stop...at
all. Highly focused an in the zone...at first. Now
it seems to be going away.

Appearance: Again, I've used my mirror for the past two years so
I know my composition very well. Definitely a change
happening here. More overall bulk developing, while
my waist is still slowly shrinking. Every muscle
group is showing growth...not MAJOR but noticeable
enough to know it's working.

Sides: None as of yet. I was getting weird sensations randomly
throughout my body, in muscles when I started; but that
Has passed. Libido is still okay, the boys seem to be
hanging just fine. I'm probably bumping up to 4 mg next
week.

All in all I'd say I'm pretty happy with it. I'm shocked it's not making me HUNGRY like all of the other reviewers. My appetite is unchanged. But the other reviewers I've read are young and I used to chow in my 20's too. Well that's about it, hope it helps and lurkers out there.

 

[stormshadow101]

thanks for the feedback. please update it every few days or so

 

[Jbranken]

Replace the protein shakes with more dead animals and you'll like your results much better bro. Loads of whole food protein is important when cutting. Could also be contributing to your lack of hunger too since protein shakes bloat and fill you up

 

[BigBaus]

Im into my 4th week.
week 3-4 has been 3mg.

I gotta be honest, I dont notice anything tho Im up in calories.

 

[gatesmarch]

Replace the protein shakes with more dead animals and you'll like your results much better bro. Loads of whole food protein is important when cutting. Could also be contributing to your lack of hunger too since protein shakes bloat and fill you up

Thanks for the input. I agree, right now my budget doesn't allow it. Next week I'm putting an order in for 100lbs of grass fed beef, I'll be happily stocked then.

 

[digit0x]

Good input. Make sure to hit this log up again at least weekly. I like your input so far and am curious to see how this plays out. Can you give bf%/weight? Have you committed this run to cutting?

 

[gatesmarch]

Good input. Make sure to hit this log up again at least weekly. I like your input so far and am curious to see how this plays out. Can you give bf%/weight? Have you committed this run to cutting?

Yes I really don't want to go off the cut because it's the first time I've done it and my bf was around 25-30% and couldn't deal with it anymore (My lifting belt has already dropped 2 notches...so I'm very happy). However I have loosened up a bit; sometimes I may have pizza one night/ week. I like the fact that while taking this there is still muscle growth even while on a caloric deficit. As far as bf%/weight, I really can't give any #'s. I'm going to buy a scale and some calipers next week...but I'll already be 3 1/2 weeks into the cycle so take that for what it's worth. My wife commented on my traps and neck starting to pronounce...which is something I've been trying so to hard to accomplish since I've freakin started lifting 2 yrs ago lol.

 

[rustilldown]

Yes I really don't want to go off the cut because it's the first time I've done it and my bf was around 25-30% and couldn't deal with it anymore (My lifting belt has already dropped 2 notches...so I'm very happy). However I have loosened up a bit; sometimes I may have pizza one night/ week. I like the fact that while taking this there is still muscle growth even while on a caloric deficit. As far as bf%/weight, I really can't give any #'s. I'm going to buy a scale and some calipers next week...but I'll already be 3 1/2 weeks into the cycle so take that for what it's worth. My wife commented on my traps and neck starting to pronounce...which is something I've been trying so to hard to accomplish since I've freakin started lifting 2 yrs ago lol.

25-30% bf is pretty high man. Not bashing you just saying that may be partially why you aren't noticing anything too dramatic, it's hard to notice change quickly until you become leaner.

 

[gatesmarch]

25-30% bf is pretty high man. Not bashing you just saying that may be partially why you aren't noticing anything too dramatic, it's hard to notice change quickly until you become leaner.

After viewing numerous pics of men with varying bodyfat comparisons, I can confidently say I'm at 22-23%. I don't want to add cardio until I'm done with this cycle though. Before I started LGD,I was doing HIIT 3x/week and it was really speeding up the fat burn.

 

[gatesmarch]

Well here I am a week later and I think I'm done with this. I'm not sold on it. Strength is slightly weaker, build is the same although less bodyfat but I'm certain that's diet. My endurance dropped off, I'm dragging my ass to workout...practically lethargic on my off days. I went up to 5mg a couple of days ago, but there's really no difference at all. I think my original impressions were probably placebo. The lab reports from the Boston University study clearly showed a big drop in test...yet nobody's log has shown any signs of shrinkage or symptoms of a drop at all. A former employee of Ligand said they weren't even done finalizing the formula so I think this whole thing is bunk by Unique.

 

[Cipp21]

It's not bunk... Like stated before, your bodyfat is too high to see dramatic results. It's not a steroid, you cannot expect steroid-like results anyways. Everyone responds to compounds differently. Judging from your last post you seem to have expected an "on" feeling as well, something you shouldn't expect from SARMS in the first place. There have been multiple reports of dropped test symptoms, and even then a persons test can be in the shitter an theyll still feel fine. You need to take a step back and re-evaluate your expectations out of the compound. You can't call a product bunk because it didn't work for you, and it worked for others (me included)... Expecially from a reputable company like unique.

 

[LiftLearnLove]

Your to fat man why are you taking this stuff???

Get down to 15%

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[gatesmarch]

It's not bunk... Like stated before, your bodyfat is too high to see dramatic results. It's not a steroid, you cannot expect steroid-like results anyways. Everyone responds to compounds differently. Judging from your last post you seem to have expected an "on" feeling as well, something you shouldn't expect from SARMS in the first place. There have been multiple reports of dropped test symptoms, and even then a persons test can be in the shitter an theyll still feel fine. You need to take a step back and re-evaluate your expectations out of the compound. You can't call a product bunk because it didn't work for you, and it worked for others (me included)... Expecially from a reputable company like unique.

No I didn't expect an "on" feeling at all, I expected to see strength gains...at least minimally. All I said was I felt "something" meaning that I am very chemically in tune with my body and it was telling me that something foreign went into it. I've seen people saying that other people had asked if they were on steroids after 3 weeks of using it. Really?
Whether you're at 22% or 10% bodyfat you will see muscular growth. I know I did over the past year while bulking. Research showed it "enlarged" the muscle fibers. Perhaps I don't really know how to gauge bodyfat because nobody calls me fat by any means.

 

[hurricane]

this stuff is comming to sarmsearch any week now! i cant wait to give it a shot,ss products are always top notch.

 

[pdelta]

Well here I am a week later and I think I'm done with this. I'm not sold on it. Strength is slightly weaker, build is the same although less bodyfat but I'm certain that's diet. My endurance dropped off, I'm dragging my ass to workout...practically lethargic on my off days. I went up to 5mg a couple of days ago, but there's really no difference at all. I think my original impressions were probably placebo. The lab reports from the Boston University study clearly showed a big drop in test...yet nobody's log has shown any signs of shrinkage or symptoms of a drop at all. A former employee of Ligand said they weren't even done finalizing the formula so I think this whole thing is bunk by Unique.

I just finished my first bottle of LGD and it did absolutly nothing as far as I can tell. I started at .3 ml and increase to .5 and then to .7. I get better result from Ostarine and it's cheaper.

 

[liffalot]

Well here I am a week later and I think I'm done with this. I'm not sold on it. Strength is slightly weaker, build is the same although less bodyfat but I'm certain that's diet. My endurance dropped off, I'm dragging my ass to workout...practically lethargic on my off days. I went up to 5mg a couple of days ago, but there's really no difference at all. I think my original impressions were probably placebo. The lab reports from the Boston University study clearly showed a big drop in test...yet nobody's log has shown any signs of shrinkage or symptoms of a drop at all. A former employee of Ligand said they weren't even done finalizing the formula so I think this whole thing is bunk by Unique.

I'm waiting for the Sarmssearch LGD before I try it, you might do the same.

But company aside I think your problem is too much BF%, not enough calories, and improperly timed carbohydrate intake. I've had these same problems not on anything and it was because I was cutting back on simple carbs to cut weight.

In my opinion, the bottom line is that you cannot get stronger while cutting - it just doesn't work. I'd try it again once youre at your comfortable BF%

 

[pdelta]

I ordered two bottles of S4 from Unique (it was back ordered) and they sent me two bottles of LGD instead. This stuff must not be flying off the shelves.

 

[long_john21]

I ordered two bottles of S4 from Unique (it was back ordered) and they sent me two bottles of LGD instead. This stuff must not be flying off the shelves.

I think they set you two bottles of leprechaun urine. Its green right?


From everything I can see in the SARMS game the sellers are maintaining legal operations.

So the real questions to be asked are...

Is the formula that works known/published? (chemical structure)

Does Ligand allow the sale of it in the US? (for legitimate research purposes of course)

Is it cost effective? (can it be bought and resold at a profit)

If the answer to any of these questions is no then there is no LGD-4033 out there. Only leprechaun urine.

 

[pdelta]

It's green. This really rocks my faith in Unique.

 

[gatesmarch]

I think they set you two bottles of leprechaun urine. Its green right?


From everything I can see in the SARMS game the sellers are maintaining legal operations.

So the real questions to be asked are...

Is the formula that works known/published? (chemical structure)

Does Ligand allow the sale of it in the US? (for legitimate research purposes of course)

Is it cost effective? (can it be bought and resold at a profit)

If the answer to any of these questions is no then there is no LGD-4033 out there. Only leprechaun urine.

I emailed them about the "180 day guarantee" and have heard nothing. I stopped taking it to send the rest back.

 

[Mr.GoodNice]

I'm just about at the end of my 4th week of my 8 week run on LGD (first week @ 3mg) and this seems to be the sweet spot for its affects to be noticeable.
I started slowly at 1mg but didn't notice much expect slightly faster recovery.
At 2mg I started to feel a bit of a strength increase, mostly just allowing to get a few extra reps at the weight I've been using.
At 3mg that I'm at now I've started to feel more of a strength and endurance increase. I've been doing extra sets on all my lifts and the weights have gone up on pretty much everything. I feel unstoppable in the gym as if I never want to leave and I look fuller and more defined.
I still have another 4 weeks to see how this actually plays out and will be increasing the dosage to 4mg and 5mg.
I haven't changed my diet much, just eating a bit over maintenance, and tracking my macros and micros to make sure my body gets the nutrients it needs to grow.
Maybe some people are more receptive to this stuff than others or maybe some people have poor eating and sleeping habits. It's hard to say what else people are or aren't doing on their end. I seem to be responding well to it half way through the cycle. I've never done any real AAS cycle and this is my first SARM so if somebody has and is expecting this to feel the same then that could be a factor in some of the disappointment.
If this is all placebo then I have one strong mind. I'll have a much clearer picture to paint in another 4 weeks and then another 4 weeks after PCT. This is just my experience thus far and my opinion on it isn't fully formed yet.

 

[northernknight]

I think they set you two bottles of leprechaun urine. Its green right?


From everything I can see in the SARMS game the sellers are maintaining legal operations.

So the real questions to be asked are...

Is the formula that works known/published? (chemical structure)

Does Ligand allow the sale of it in the US? (for legitimate research purposes of course)

Is it cost effective? (can it be bought and resold at a profit)

If the answer to any of these questions is no then there is no LGD-4033 out there. Only leprechaun urine.

Customs decided to seize my shipment from Unique few months ago, and presumably sent my LGD to their lab for analysis. Since there is no legal problems with my shipment, they are forced to deliver my order to me after they are done with their analysis and investigation.

When this happens, I will post up results from their lab tests. This will take time though, in my past experiences their investigations move pretty damn slow.

I had no problems getting refunded by Unique because of this, and their customer service was excellent.

Still, after moving on to SarmsSearch, I've decided to stick with them, the quality that they offer is just unmatchable. Also SS shipping works incredibly fast without any issues with customs. It's absolutely great that they are going to add more products to their selection, I'm very interested in adding their version of LGD-4033 to my upcoming research project.

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[mickeyk]

Its bunk cipp, I reckon you and Mr Good.nice work for Unique??
I started at .3 and 8 weeks in running .8 still nothing!! Its BUNK!!

mickeyk

 

[mickeyk]

I'm with you gatesmarch!

mickeyk

 

[Jigga14]

Its bunk cipp, I reckon you and Mr Good.nice work for Unique??
I started at .3 and 8 weeks in running .8 still nothing!! Its BUNK!!

mickeyk

You ran .8 of a mg and expect to see results? If I ran 10 mg of var I would say the same thing, it bunk (while actually it may not be bunk but I didn't run a proper dose) Up your dose!

If you meant 8 mg why did you put a decimal in front of it. This is Mercia'

 

[Mr.GoodNice]

You ran .8 of a mg and expect to see results? If I ran 10 mg of var I would say the same thing, it bunk (while actually it may not be bunk but I didn't run a proper dose) Up your dose!

If you meant 8 mg why did you put a decimal in front of it. This is Mercia'

I've seen a lot of people mix up mg and ml when posting their dosage, not sure if they mean otherwise or don't know math and running wrong doses. I even broke down the calculation in another thread.

No, I don't work for Unique. I'm just sharing my experience half way through my 8 week run. Take it with a grain of salt for all I care. Look at my posts, I'm not even active enough to work for anybody.

If LGD ends up working out well for me after this run and post PCT, yet only people with complaints decide to post, then great because it'll drive the price down. The more unsatisfied people venting the better it could be for me in the future.

Once again, I'm only 1/3 through the entire cycle (including PCT) so I haven't formed any conclusion yet. I may be back after 8 weeks to bash this stuff, too.

 

[Shrine1]

I have to agree on not being to impressed. I took there Osta, I felt the results with SS were undeniably better IMO. I will stick to SS from here on out

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[liffalot]

Customs decided to seize my shipment from Unique few months ago, and presumably sent my LGD to their lab for analysis. Since there is no legal problems with my shipment, they are forced to deliver my order to me after they are done with their analysis and investigation.

When this happens, I will post up results from their lab tests. This will take time though, in my past experiences their investigations move pretty damn slow.

I had no problems getting refunded by Unique because of this, and their customer service was excellent.

Still, after moving on to SarmsSearch, I've decided to stick with them, the quality that they offer is just unmatchable. Also SS shipping works incredibly fast without any issues with customs. It's absolutely great that they are going to add more products to their selection, I'm very interested in adding their version of LGD-4033 to my upcoming research project.

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That's good to know, I'll be curious to see the results.

That's also how I feel - in my opinion SS is just superior in every way; quality, purity, customer service (although my experience with unique has been very good in this regard), and shipping time......its just unbeatable

 

[hurricane]

I have to agree on not being to impressed. I took there Osta, I felt the results with SS were undeniably better IMO. I will stick to SS from here on out

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thanks for the honest feedback.Good to hear a reg member saying this, when a mod or rep says it, everyone assumes it hot air .

 

[liffalot]

thanks for the honest feedback.Good to hear a reg member saying this, when a mod or rep says it, everyone assumes it hot air .

Yea that's the unfortunate part about repping for a company that you actually do believe is the best - everyone hears the rep talking and not the person.

But SS is the best, no question