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The same inappropriate preteen touching is also why she can get a man to tolerate her for more than a couple months...

I've been in longer relationships than you (my common law marriage was close to 12 yrs and was with someone 7 yrs) and I also didn't meet them on a juicer board and cheat on my wife for them
 
I've been in longer relationships than you (my common law marriage was close to 12 yrs and was with someone 7 yrs) and I also didn't meet them on a juicer board and cheat on my wife for them

nice trailor park marriage life

Was he your cousin?
 
I come from wealth and no, he was a guy I met through a friend.

But tell me, how is the trailer park lifestyle?!

according to Hollywood, not bad. Heard you can score some decent coke.

Have to be common law for a minimum of 2 years to pass screenings to park your rv though
 
picture this
you fly to fight chris, you knock his ass out cold, then smurfy steps up to avenge her fallen man.
think you could take her?

No, but I am sure she would high five me for smacking down her wife ;-)

She can take me, I am not a fighter. Though once I knocked a guy out when he went to grab my ass.
 
When I lost my virginity I was 14. There is nothing wrong with sex at an early age as long as those young ones are educated about contraception and safety.

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Lol and that's the difference between us. I don't really hate blueta or anything. It's just fun pushing her buttons now and then.

i've never truely hated anyone on this site, occassionaly i find myself hating rabid obama tards though on other news sites.
made the mistake of commenting on a paul krugman article and got into a e-brawl with some racists obama jrs...didn't realize that shit posted to my FB page and when i went to it a bunch of my dbag friends/family were agreeing with my e-enemies.
suck
 
Yes, I ferreal.

I'm "olde fashioned" I suppose. I believe fornication is wrong, and the whole societal mindset nowdays is that "it's going to happen, so don't worry about it" which is a terrible approach.

Is it going to happen? Sure.

Should we just not care? Pfft, of course we should care.

Sex is not for teenagers. A large portion teens regret having done it. They think they are being big and grown up when they commit to a sexual relationship, and the two don't really have anything to do with eachother.

I know I grew up and live in a different place than most people. Most people around here as teens encouraged each other to be abstinent, and that made a difference.


Look at V, she is concerned about her son having sex. Why? Because she knows he just shouldn't be doing it, and until you are a parent or you are looked up in similar light and love a child that much, all of the sudden abstinence becomes the way. There's an inherent worry built into us about promiscuous sex. Why? Because it's morally wrong, and deep down, we all know it.

You can laugh all you want, but the obvious best way for this situation to play out is that V's son discontinue the fooling around. He's 14, he's just a kid.

Sex before marriage isn't a sin. Sex is marriage. There are many verses that back this up if you want me to go in detail
 
Sex before marriage isn't a sin. Sex is marriage. There are many verses that back this up if you want me to go in detail

This oughta be hilarious.

Please humor me.
 
This oughta be hilarious.

Please humor me.

1 corithians 6:16 Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, “THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.” How is "Sex before marriage" a sin, when the bible clearly says sex IS marriage.

In Leviticus the BOOK of sexual sins, there are no sins pointing to pre marriage sex.


I concluded that fornication, or the word that word was translated from, referred to sexual sins like whore mongering, prostitution and so forth. So I began to wonder if it was just the usual custom, and not commanded. I also remember Elijah saying something about two people becoming married by deciding to be married (I suppose without a legal document). or ceremony, which was traditional (not Biblical).



Once you have sex with her, you’re married for life. Whether you get legally married falls under a different commandment of God (Romans 13), which tells us we must follow the laws of the land. Therefore, the government requires people to legalize marriage: so as a child of God, you must marry the girl legally. The only choice both of you have is: whether to get legally married before or after you have sex. Either way you will not sin!


Fornication is the word principally used in the Bible to show illegitimate sex, which is adultery and other forms of perverted sex, such as homosexuality, bestiality, group sex, unnatural sex acts like sodomy; but all these are examples of the true meaning of fornication. Fornication is the act of any human being not worshipping God according to having faith in the Biblical statutes and commandments. When a person knows to do right, and doesn’t do it, to him it is sin, which is a willful act of disobeying God. Such people are fornicating with the devil, by having intercourse with another god, other than their God, by not loving their God, which is to keep God’s commandments.
 
Waiting until you are older to have sex is not a bad choice, but saying its sinful is just ignorant. Quit living off what your preacher/parents told you when you were a little kid, and research and study the bible more your self.
 
what's going on here?

Blueta says no comment but then she never shuts up!


Wait, don't you and your "wife" post here daily, non stop! I post here once in a blue moon! so............ yeah!
It's the jerk you married who never shuts up
 
What's so absurd??! How can another parent ask another parent to put their child on birth control?! That is a VERY personal choice for a person, so it's up to the girl, not the parents, the man or another parent.

The pill is not without side effects.

Pretty friggin easy to understand!

I think you have confused the word "ask" with "force". You can ask anyone anything.
 
Wait, don't you and your "wife" post here daily, non stop! I post here once blue moon! so............ yeah!
It's the jerk you married who never shuts up

Um,

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This oughta be hilarious.

Please humor me.

Also

There is nothing said about premarital sex in the New Testament.

The scriptures were not written in English. "Fornication" is a great example of the lies in translation of some bibles. Some English bibles say that, others say the more correct translation "sexual immorality". The koline Greek word that has been mistranslated as fornication is porneia. There is no biblical basis whatsoever to translate porneia into fornication (singles sex).

Porneia meant sexual immorality which included:

1) Sex during women's menstruation.

2) Adultery which biblically was understood by the Hebrews to mean wrong for a married women to have sex with another man since violated her husbands property rights. It was never understood to be wrong for a married man since his wife had no such rights. The married man could have as many wives and concubines (breeders) as he wished as long as not married (another man's property. Nothing ever was wrong with singles sexuality. "Fornication" is a total mistranslation of Greek "porneia"

3) Pagan sex goddess prostitution. Porneia as used in I Cor 6-9, falsely translated in some bibles as fornication was actually the practice of the prostitutes in the Temples of Corinth selling their services as a part of pagan fertility goddess worship which was what Paul was warning against. Not even specifically about prostitution (still legal and very popular in Israel today) but used as a pagan sexual goddess worship.

4) Pederasty - one of the worst of all sexual sins that took various forms: The practice of pederasty falls into three distinct styles. First is the relationship between an older man and a young boy. Second is the practice of slave prostitutes. Third is that of the effeminate "call boy" or prostitute. Other practices included a heterosexual male degrading another heterosexual male by anal intercourse after capturing them in battle. Another practice was heterosexual's using anal intercourse to drive out other heterosexual strangers they didn't like such as the case of the Sodom story. It had absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality as we know it today, which is simply being as God designed some people to be.

Adultery in biblical times did not mean what it means to us today. Clearly there was never a word said about the fact Hebrew men could have as many wives, concubines (breeders) and "other women" as they could afford. THIS IS NOT ADULTERY, in the Hebrew understanding of the Adultery Commandment of Moses. Adultery as understood by what Moses said was only wrong for married women, never a married man.
 
Waiting until you are older to have sex is not a bad choice, but saying its sinful is just ignorant. Quit living off what your preacher/parents told you when you were a little kid, and research and study the bible more your self.

This is hilarious because you have no idea about me or my religious education and back ground.

You assume I just listen to the preacher, or go by what mommy and daddy said when I was little.

Kid, I am a religious instructor and spent 2 years of my life doing nothing but preaching full time, voluntarily, unpaid.

You think that having sex is marriage? And you try to use the bible to corroborate that?

That's ridiculous.

So, by your definition, having sex with one girl, and then having sex with another is adultery and you're under condemnation anyways.

The act of intercourse in any religious definition has never been defined as being synonymous with marriage, or atleast until I met you.

Put down the pipe...
 
This is hilarious because you have no idea about me or my religious education and back ground.

You assume I just listen to the preacher, or go by what mommy and daddy said when I was little.

Kid, I am a religious instructor and spent 2 years of my life doing nothing but preaching full time, voluntarily, unpaid.

You think that having sex is marriage? And you try to use the bible to corroborate that?

That's ridiculous.

So, by your definition, having sex with one girl, and then having sex with another is adultery and you're under condemnation anyways.

The act of intercourse in any religious definition has never been defined as being synonymous with marriage, or atleast until I met you.

Put down the pipe...
If what I said is ridiculous your simply disagreeing with the scripture. All I listed was scriptures, what do you have to counter the verses I put up? They are plain as day in any bible you have. You didn't read what I posted about adultery correctly. Many people in the bible had multiple wives, this is why a man can spread his seed to many women but a woman can only have 1 seed. As long as the woman is not married than no acts of adultery are committed
 
If what I said is ridiculous your simply disagreeing with the scripture. All I listed was scriptures, what do you have to counter the verses I put up? They are plain as day in any bible you have. You didn't read what I posted about adultery correctly. Many people in the bible had multiple wives, this is why a man can spread his seed to many women but a woman can only have 1 seed. As long as the woman is not married than no acts of adultery are committed

Fornication had many meanings in the scriptures. It even referred to disloyalty to the nation an act of fornication.

Anyways, you can bring up all these alternate references of fornication you want(you are correct that adultery, prostitution, bestiality, pederasty, incest, etc. are forms of fornication) , the fact is that even in biblical hebrew, fornication was used to describe pre-marital sex.

Having intercourse before a recognized marriage is indeed fornication and is a sin according to scripture.

Saying that having pre-marital sex is marriage is ridiculous.

The verb "marry" by itself has several meanings. It can mean institutional marriage, it can mean to bring together, and it can also mean to physically attach to something.
 
What do you have to say to the verses I posted? About a prostitute and man lying together and two flesh becomes one? You cant deny that plainly states sex is marriage.
 
What do you have to say to the verses I posted? About a prostitute and man lying together and two flesh becomes one? You cant deny that plainly states sex is marriage.

No, that is definitely not what it is saying.

The phrase "Two flesh become one" doesn't mean you become married to God by the act of intercourse.


Read this.

1 Corinthians Chapter 7

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. (Paul is referring to his celibacy)

9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

(In other words, if you can't control your sexual urges, it's better that you get married than go to hell for having sex before you get married)
 
Um,

Blueta2: Posts Per Day: 6.51
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those stats are skewed, you could have posted 50 thousand threads one year and then 1000 the next

im neutral tho no sides taking just pointing out the facts
 
No, that is definitely not what it is saying.

The phrase "Two flesh become one" doesn't mean you become married to God by the act of intercourse.


Read this.

1 Corinthians Chapter 7

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. (Paul is referring to his celibacy)

9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

(In other words, if you can't control your sexual urges, it's better that you get married than go to hell for having sex before you get married)

I'll read all this and counter it tomorrow I need sleep
 
that lil crease across the nip is gyno? fuk i've had that my whole life then i guess.

I've had that since I was 13.

Technically, it is male breast tissue (gyno) but it's not some big manboob lump.


Tons of guys have a little bit of nip bulge.
 
i got a lil nippage like that too, i just pinch em all the time

if youre a virgin bro i dont care i was just bustin, good for u to stick to your guns

good luck in the chase hope you find that pristine twat
 
You cannot ask someone to take BC. I never took it nor would I ever! I was smart enough to know when I started having sex that I was not going to force hormones in my body. You cannot ask someone to do that.

Let him wear condoms....non invasive. If he's responsible, he will always wear one.

Blue I love you. You know this.

But...

The hell I can ask that mother to put her daughter in BC! Condoms break and slip off. I can and will ask for the girl to be put in BC and if she gets knocked up I will rip off my son's balls and tell that mother to have her daughter get an abortion.

I could give a fuck about being nice when it's my son's life we are talking about here.



Damn this would be easier if I could just keep them apart :(
 
What's so absurd??! How can another parent ask another parent to put their child on birth control?! That is a VERY personal choice for a person, so it's up to the girl, not the parents, the man or another parent.

The pill is not without side effects.

Pretty friggin easy to understand!

Oh but having my son's baby and forcing him to pay child support and be responsible to raise a baby because she has a right to choose for herself isn't personal? That is pretty damn personal if you ask me.


And news flash...a baby is a huge side effect of a broken condom!
 
Totally agree, but my point was no one can force a woman to take the pill.

If she opens her legs to my son I will shove that fucking pill down her throat while fist fucking her mother's eye socket. Then I will remove my son's nutz and put those bitches in a jar and store them under the sink.
 
When I lost my virginity I was 14. There is nothing wrong with sex at an early age as long as those young ones are educated about contraception and safety.

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You are retarded


And there is everything wrong with sex at 14.
 
If she opens her legs to my son I will shove that fucking pill down her throat while fist fucking her mother's eye socket. Then I will remove my son's nutz and put those bitches in a jar and store them under the sink.

no you wont

now post a pic troll
 
no you wont

now post a pic troll

No bitch.


And your right.....sigh.


I'm going to ask as politely as I can if she would consider some kind of birth control because I fear my kid is too stupid to use condoms on a consistent basis. I will try to see if she will tell me her views on abortion/adoption hopefully without asking directly.
 
Educate them on the morning after pill. It's hardly BC, but teens are dumb. They might just "wait" till a missed blood spot to worry. If it slips, rips, or you have doubts.. take a "vitamin."
 
That's....


A thought.

Honestly I think I got into my son's head. He started the I'm not trying to have a baby convo with her. They have talked a little about BC and she said she wants to wait, she's scared. He said he didn't want her to be scared.
 
Plan b (morning after pill) was like 55$ when I had to get one... And you can't exactly ask your parents for the money. Just saying some kids will take their chances rather than come clean to their parents.
 
Plan b (morning after pill) was like 55$ when I had to get one... And you can't exactly ask your parents for the money. Just saying some kids will take their chances rather than come clean to their parents.
I know nothing about that so I'm bad for advice. Just throwing out stuff. It is probably better to be aware of it rather than not though. 55 is pretty cheap in the long run if you don't want it.
 
Plan b (morning after pill) was like 55$ when I had to get one... And you can't exactly ask your parents for the money. Just saying some kids will take their chances rather than come clean to their parents.

I think my son would come to me. We have a good relationship.
 
I could give a fuck about being nice when it's my son's life we are talking about here.



Damn this would be easier if I could just keep them apart :(

Exactly. Being nice or PC over this is not a concern. If they get mad or offended, well screw them, you shouldn't care. This is your child were talking about.

This summer, my younger cousin was going to Vegas with his friend and their family. I told the dad to keep him off the strip at night and to take good care of him or I'd kick his ass. It was a joke, but I was also serious and he knew I wasn't playing. I know them well, so it was friendly. I am not shy about speaking my mind when it comes to my kid's well being.



Also, what's keeping you from keeping them apart?

Again, my older cousin, when he was going through this, I told my Aunt to just not let him see her anymore and she said that's not the right thing to do. I disagreed with her then but she agrees with me now. (Our church has an age 16 dating guideline anyway) I told my cousin that I absolutely did not want him to see her and he was pissed with me for months. They banged a bunch because his mom let him be with her and it has had a really negative affect on his life because of it.

I called this cousin today and talked to him about this and asked him some questions because of you. Specifically, I asked him that, looking back, would him being forbidden from seeing her been the best choice and he said that without question it would have been the best thing despite him probably being pissed off for months.

Now, I know at a certain point you have to let your son be his own man and make his own choices, but obviously having already gotten a BJ, he's in no position to prove he has proper judgement to handle the situation appropriately and that's when you've got to be the parent and make the decision for your child so he doesn't screw his life up.

I hope for the best, V. As a parental type figure, I know how much stress this is and I hope the best for your son for his sake. I really do feel for you dealing with this. I've been there and the worry can be agonizing.
 
I didn't think Amish people used computers. Have you harnessed some sort of new technology? Let me in on the ground floor. Does paper stock count against? I'll need something in writing.
 
I didn't think Amish people used computers. Have you harnessed some sort of new technology? Let me in on the ground floor. Does paper stock count against? I'll need something in writing.

I'm posting from my Galaxy smartphone you galactic smartass.
 
Tell your son to only have anal or oral sex with her then she can't get pg. problem solved.


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You missed the part where V said she does NOT want her kid sexxing.

Yeah her wants are not going to stop him from fucking the shit out of her.


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He spends weekends with his father, who doesn't supervise him. That's the only time he sees her.

Then you call him and talk to him because if he's the one allowing this then this is bullcrap.

Seriously though, will he even care?
 
Condoms suck. It ain't a thrill without the spill.

And it ain't no fun if the homies can't have none! So I'm coming over brah.
 
Teens arent going to fumble around with condoms in the heat of the moment

I'm 40 and I won't do it either!!

Condoms are for sailors.
 
Go for it!!! Tell me, as a man, how a woman should not control what goes into her body!!

sure as shit seems to be OK for a woman to tell a man what to do all the fucking time though.
 
Are you on Bath Salts??!

Oh God forbid the man takes responsibility!

damn right!!


the man should be forced to take responsibility!!!11
 
Oh but having my son's baby and forcing him to pay child support and be responsible to raise a baby because she has a right to choose for herself isn't personal?

You goddamn right!

About time men started being forced to take responsibility!!!!!1112@
 
I honestly think when it comes to having a baby the man should be able to have some say. When I got pregnant with my son I gave his retarded father say in what I did. But the point here is that it is easier to prevent the situation in the first place. If she takes birthcontrol then it can save every one the pain of her getting pregnant. But I would still want my son using condoms. What I am asking for here is for them to split the responsibility. Because either one can fail, the pill or a condom. Better to have two.


It would be best if he had no sex at all but I'm afraid they will find a way.
 
Then you call him and talk to him because if he's the one allowing this then this is bullcrap.

Seriously though, will he even care?

Nope. He'll let our son see her just to piss me off. He thinks kids should make their own decisions and that our son is a man.

He's a fucking idiot.
 
No, that is definitely not what it is saying.

The phrase "Two flesh become one" doesn't mean you become married to God by the act of intercourse.


Read this.

1 Corinthians Chapter 7

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. (Paul is referring to his celibacy)

9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

(In other words, if you can't control your sexual urges, it's better that you get married than go to hell for having sex before you get married)

I said nothing of two flesh becoming married to god? Where the hell did you get that? Let me try to put this in a way even you can understand “What, don’t you know young man, when you lie down with a prostitute, the two become one.” (1 Corinthians 6:16) It states they become married. You are ignorant if you don't see that. You're taking pauls words out of context. And when you use the word "fornication" referring to sexual sins LOOK in the book of Leviticus for your self and look through ALL of the sexual sins. And try to find ONE sexual sin that refers to premarital sex. "But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn." You're right, it is better to marry than burn! But sex is marriage as I already have backed up with scripture. You need to get your logic right and think about it some your self. I have backed up everything I have said with verses while you are pretty much speaking from what others have told you, you are speaking from the traditions of man. Who are you going to believe? The traditions of MODERN day church? Or the verses straight out of your bible. I'm not saying its smart to have sex before marriage, but you were wrong in saying its a sin to have sex before marriage.
 
I said nothing of two flesh becoming married to god? Where the hell did you get that? Let me try to put this in a way even you can understand “What, don’t you know young man, when you lie down with a prostitute, the two become one.” (1 Corinthians 6:16) It states they become married. You are ignorant if you don't see that. You're taking pauls words out of context. And when you use the word "fornication" referring to sexual sins LOOK in the book of Leviticus for your self and look through ALL of the sexual sins. And try to find ONE sexual sin that refers to premarital sex. "But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn." You're right, it is better to marry than burn! But sex is marriage as I already have backed up with scripture. You need to get your logic right and think about it some your self. I have backed up everything I have said with verses while you are pretty much speaking from what others have told you, you are speaking from the traditions of man. Who are you going to believe? The traditions of MODERN day church? Or the verses straight out of your bible. I'm not saying its smart to have sex before marriage, but you were wrong in saying its a sin to have sex before marriage.

Fornication = sexual activity of any kind outside the bounds of marriage.

Fornication includes pre-marital sex

Pre-marital sex = sin

How freaking hard is that to understand?

Then you say that intercourse makes you married, which therefore pre-marital sex is impossible and doesn't exist according to your twisted logic. That's completely retarded.

According to what you say, sex outside of marriage isn't sinful because you go around getting married to everyone you bang. C'mon bro, be for real. You don't really believe that do you?
 
Fornication = sexual activity of any kind outside the bounds of marriage.

Fornication includes pre-marital sex

Pre-marital sex = sin

How freaking hard is that to understand?

Then you say that intercourse makes you married, which therefore pre-marital sex is impossible and doesn't exist according to your twisted logic. That's completely retarded.

According to what you say, sex outside of marriage isn't sinful because you go around getting married to everyone you bang. C'mon bro, be for real. You don't really believe that do you?

Your useing the miss translated definition of fornication. Pre maritial sex is not a sexual sin. You're disagreeing with the scripture. Not me. I'm just posting facts that you can find in your bible right now, but you are going off of what you learned as a boy.
 
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