My manager just casually gave me my resignation papers.

[the_alcatraz]

I sww it a mile away when he was looking to hire an old employee back and when he gave me the first warning. I'm a little confused, because by virtue of it being a first warning, there should be a second and a third, no?

He casually said: ''we have decided to let you go..."

I saw it coming, and I kinda hoped it would come because I was getting tired of my monotonous job, yet I still feel kinda disappointed and frustrated.

Anyways, back to looking for a job now. meh.

 

[all the whey]

 

[stosstruppe]

2 verbal warnings, one written, then the boot, no?

Unless they have (& stated) sufficient cause to actually fire you then you're looking at an industrial tribunal for unfair dismissal.

Play the "r" card orb and in a few months you'll be able to take your pretty wife to more exotic places from your pay-out!!1

Don't forget pics!!1

 

[Mr. Black]

What did your old job encompass?

 

[the_alcatraz]

2 verbal warnings, one written, then the boot, no?

Unless they have (& stated) sufficient cause to actually fire you then you're looking at an industrial tribunal for unfair dismissal.

Play the "r" card orb and in a few months you'll be able to take your pretty wife to more exotic places from your pay-out!!1

Don't forget pics!!1

no verbal warnings, just one written warning and that's it!

I dnt feel comfortable playing the race card in this instance...although I should've done it on the spot...it's too late now anyways.

I'm already seeking other job opportunities.

Thnx for your input bro. You seem to know the law very well.

 

[the_alcatraz]

What did your old job encompass?

I was an account manager in the sales department of an electronics distributor. Most of my interactions were over the phone / email.

 

[gonelifting]

Sucks man.

Go get a better job now. good luck.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Sucks man.

Go get a better job now. good luck.

Thanks bro. My collegue told me that I worked too hard and was put in an unfair position and set up to fail from the start. I guess he could be right. I did work really hard and my conscience is clear.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

no verbal warnings, just one written warning and that's it!

I dnt feel comfortable playing the race card in this instance...although I should've done it on the spot...it's too late now anyways.

I'm already seeking other job opportunities.

Thnx for your input bro. You seem to know the law very well.

What that your Canadian?

 

[the_alcatraz]

What that your Canadian?

I'm originally Lebanese bro.

 

[silverstar1025]

Damn that really sucks! I am sorry Traz I hope you find anothe job quickly. Did they at least give you a severance?

 

[LoneTree]

I sww it a mile away when he was looking to hire an old employee back and when he gave me the first warning. I'm a little confused, because by virtue of it being a first warning, there should be a second and a third, no?

He casually said: ''we have decided to let you go..."

I saw it coming, and I kinda hoped it would come because I was getting tired of my monotonous job, yet I still feel kinda disappointed and frustrated.

Anyways, back to looking for a job now. meh.

Sorry to hear it.
I hope you find the job you like real soon.
I don't know about your circumstances, but in general, from an employer's point of view, he/she may consider one warning to be sufficient.
He/she may think: 'I gave him a chance to improve, but he didn't. Case closed.'

 

[the_alcatraz]

Damn that really sucks! I am sorry Traz I hope you find anothe job quickly. Did they at least give you a severance?

Thnks SS!

They gave me two weeks pay and two weeks benefits. meh.

It's all good. Life goes on.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Sorry to hear it.
I hope you find the job you like real soon.
I don't know about your circumstances, but in general, from an employer's point of view, he/she may consider one warning to be sufficient.
He/she may think: 'I gave him a chance to improve, but he didn't. Case closed.'

That is probably close to what he had in mind had I argued.

Thank you for the kind words bro.

 

[stosstruppe]

I'm not up to speed with Canadian employment laws, though if you've been with the company for at least a year I would have thought it would be very hard to "fire" you if it's anything like Britain where managers have to dot every i and cross every t when it comes to letting someone go (every fucker's part of a union and knows their employment rights).

If he's removing you on grounds of performance surely he's cataloged it all?

 

[silverstar1025]

Thnks SS!

They gave me two weeks pay and two weeks benefits. meh.

It's all good. Life goes on.

Hey when one door closes another opens. You might be more happy at the next. Everything happens for a reason.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

I'm originally Lebanese bro.

I know I'm just play with you. Good luck.

 

[gonelifting]

So they finally caught you stealing, AAP?

Wait, who is this?

 

[needtogetarmy]

Don't let this get you down. It is all water under the bridge now. Good luck finding a new job!

 

[roadwarrior]

I sww it a mile away when he was looking to hire an old employee back and when he gave me the first warning. I'm a little confused, because by virtue of it being a first warning, there should be a second and a third, no?

He casually said: ''we have decided to let you go..."

I saw it coming, and I kinda hoped it would come because I was getting tired of my monotonous job, yet I still feel kinda disappointed and frustrated.

Anyways, back to looking for a job now. meh.

Don't know Canadien employment laws but ina "right to work" state in the US an employee can be terminated for any reason, without cause as long as the termination is not prejudicial on a legally protected status. A business that loses a big client with a 10% decrease in revenue may very well let 10% of the staff go for no fault of their own.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I'm not up to speed with Canadian employment laws, though if you've been with the company for at least a year I would have thought it would be very hard to "fire" you if it's anything like Britain where managers have to dot every i and cross every t when it comes to letting someone go (every fucker's part of a union and knows their employment rights).

If he's removing you on grounds of performance surely he's cataloged it all?

Been with em for 6 months only. I'm not part of any union bro, wish that I was. I can't do anything about it really. I accept defeat....

 

[the_alcatraz]

Hey when one door closes another opens. You might be more happy at the next. Everything happens for a reason.

I agree with this! I hope you're right. Thnx SS!!

 

[the_alcatraz]

Don't let this get you down. It is all water under the bridge now. Good luck finding a new job!

Gracias bro

 

[the_alcatraz]

Don't know Canadien employment laws but ina "right to work" state in the US an employee can be terminated for any reason, without cause as long as the termination is not prejudicial on a legally protected status. A business that loses a big client with a 10% decrease in revenue may very well let 10% of the staff go for no fault of their own.

I don't thnk it's much diff in Canada bro.

 

[roadwarrior]

I sww it a mile away when he was looking to hire an old employee back and when he gave me the first warning. I'm a little confused, because by virtue of it being a first warning, there should be a second and a third, no?

He casually said: ''we have decided to let you go..."

I saw it coming, and I kinda hoped it would come because I was getting tired of my monotonous job, yet I still feel kinda disappointed and frustrated.

Anyways, back to looking for a job now. meh.

Oh ... sorry to hear this happened. PM me what industry and what job type. I will pass along to our account managers to see if any of our clients could use a rock star of an employee.

S

 

[the_alcatraz]

Oh ... sorry to hear this happened. PM me what industry and what job type. I will pass along to our account managers to see if any of our clients could use a rock star of an employee.

S

lol thnx bro, but I'm trying to get out of sales....

I want to get into marketing, which is what I studied in the first place.

I'll send you a PM anyways

 

[AAP]

Thanks bro. My collegue told me that I worked too hard and was put in an unfair position and set up to fail from the start. I guess he could be right. I did work really hard and my conscience is clear.

Not sure how Canada is, but that is all you need here to file discrimination.

I worked in Motorola HR for 6 years. I can tell you the shit that goes on in HR departments... well it is amazing that any business around is still operating and sued to death.

If they gave you a warning one time - written, verbal, or telepathically relayed to your dead aunt to tell you through the Ouija board - they are SUPPOSE (here, not sure of up there) to provide you with additional counseling/training to ensure you succeed. For instance you cuss out a customer on the phone, bing! mandatory phone etiquette classes. You grab a female coworkers ass - oohhhh free doughnuts in the sexual harassment awareness course.

For real, it is 10x harder to legitimately fire an employee for common violations nowdays than ever before. You got to do something really really stupid or really really violent to get fired and not have a strong case.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I didn't do shit. All I did was not get my sales quota for two months in a row. They gave me one warning only. They gave me no training. I learned as I go. No training at all. I was put in a very bad position from the start. I guess a part of me wanted to leave the company because I was begining to hate my job, and that's why I went down without a fight.

Plus, in Canada, unless you're in a union, they can pretty much let you go just like that.

Not sure how Canada is, but that is all you need here to file discrimination.

I worked in Motorola HR for 6 years. I can tell you the shit that goes on in HR departments... well it is amazing that any business around is still operating and sued to death.

If they gave you a warning one time - written, verbal, or telepathically relayed to your dead aunt to tell you through the Ouija board - they are SUPPOSE (here, not sure of up there) to provide you with additional counseling/training to ensure you succeed. For instance you cuss out a customer on the phone, bing! mandatory phone etiquette classes. You grab a female coworkers ass - oohhhh free doughnuts in the sexual harassment awareness course.

For real, it is 10x harder to legitimately fire an employee for common violations nowdays than ever before. You got to do something really really stupid or really really violent to get fired and not have a strong case.

 

[gotmilk]

joosey juice distributor, Canadian division

 

[*ebony*]

thats horrible honey, good luck in finding a better job. doesn't sound like you liked the old one much, which means you might have evanually quit anyways.

best of wishes from moi to you babe.

 

[the_alcatraz]

thats horrible honey, good luck in finding a better job. doesn't sound like you liked the old one much, which means you might have evanually quit anyways.

best of wishes from moi to you babe.

Thnx hun

When're you going to pass by my gym, huh?

 

[*ebony*]

Thnx hun

When're you going to pass by my gym, huh?

lol. i was just waiting for you to ask of course.

 

[the_alcatraz]

lol. i was just waiting for you to ask of course.

Rawr. You know the address. Consider this your invite lol

 

[needtogetarmy]

I didn't do shit. All I did was not get my sales quota for two months in a row. They gave me one warning only. They gave me no training. I learned as I go. No training at all. I was put in a very bad position from the start. I guess a part of me wanted to leave the company because I was begining to hate my job, and that's why I went down without a fight.

Plus, in Canada, unless you're in a union, they can pretty much let you go just like that.

Just to add to AAP's post I had a bro who I did my MBA with and he is Muslim and his wife got canned from her job while others got promoted and it was because she was a Muslim. He called me and asked for legal advice. I told him to get everything documented on why she was getting fired. They gave her totally BS reasons. She got another job real quick so they didn't sue but they should have.

Discrimination happens all the time. Heck, I'm white and I have faced discrimination by racist peeps. If you think there is even an a small amount of racism involved talk to an attorney up there and see what they say.

 

[txbondsman]

I sww it a mile away when he was looking to hire an old employee back and when he gave me the first warning. I'm a little confused, because by virtue of it being a first warning, there should be a second and a third, no?

He casually said: ''we have decided to let you go..."

I saw it coming, and I kinda hoped it would come because I was getting tired of my monotonous job, yet I still feel kinda disappointed and frustrated.

Anyways, back to looking for a job now. meh.

I HOPE you just looked at him and said " LOL, RAWR" and handed him a pic of yourself....

 

[the_alcatraz]

I don't think there is any form of discrimintation, and I don't want to get the company in any trouble. I would feel like shit if I got the company in any trouble over nothing. I have all the assets to find a good job and I have the skills neccessary to make it work.

Looking for excuses to why I failed / was laid off is reaching....the decision was unfair and I deserved better....but to say it is discrimination because I'm muslim is asking for preferential treatment...I'm just like anybody else.....and will not stoop down to the level of using the race card to score a few extra bucks....

Thanks for your advice though bro....it is apreciated

Just to add to AAP's post I had a bro who I did my MBA with and he is Muslim and his wife got canned from her job while others got promoted and it was because she was a Muslim. He called me and asked for legal advice. I told him to get everything documented on why she was getting fired. They gave her totally BS reasons. She got another job real quick so they didn't sue but they should have.

Discrimination happens all the time. Heck, I'm white and I have faced discrimination by racist peeps. If you think there is even an a small amount of racism involved talk to an attorney up there and see what they say.

 

[jnevin]

Not sure how Canada is, but that is all you need here to file discrimination.

I worked in Motorola HR for 6 years. I can tell you the shit that goes on in HR departments... well it is amazing that any business around is still operating and sued to death.

If they gave you a warning one time - written, verbal, or telepathically relayed to your dead aunt to tell you through the Ouija board - they are SUPPOSE (here, not sure of up there) to provide you with additional counseling/training to ensure you succeed. For instance you cuss out a customer on the phone, bing! mandatory phone etiquette classes. You grab a female coworkers ass - oohhhh free doughnuts in the sexual harassment awareness course.

For real, it is 10x harder to legitimately fire an employee for common violations nowdays than ever before. You got to do something really really stupid or really really violent to get fired and not have a strong case.

That varies state to state. You can fire anyone here for any reason other than their race, religion, etc.

Good luck finding a job dude.

 

[the_alcatraz]

That varies state to state. You can fire anyone here for any reason other than their race, religion, etc.

Good luck finding a job dude.

Thanks bro.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I HOPE you just looked at him and said " LOL, RAWR" and handed him a pic of yourself....

lol

 

[jnevin]

I HOPE you just looked at him and said " LOL, RAWR" and handed him a pic of yourself....

lmao

The look on the guy's face would be classic.

 

[the_alcatraz]

lmao

The look on the guy's face would be classic.

thought about it, but didn't have a camera, so no one would believe I did it....wouldn't be worth it lol

 

[AAP]

I don't think there is any form of discrimintation, and I don't want to get the company in any trouble. I would feel like shit if I got the company in any trouble over nothing. I have all the assets to find a good job and I have the skills neccessary to make it work.

Looking for excuses to why I failed / was laid off is reaching....the decision was unfair and I deserved better....but to say it is discrimination because I'm muslim is asking for preferential treatment...I'm just like anybody else.....and will not stoop down to the level of using the race card to score a few extra bucks....

Thanks for your advice though bro....it is apreciated

Of course there is. You said it yourself. They want an old buddy (ex employee back). He left the company, didn't like his choices or failed adn decided he wanted to come back. They booted you. You got discriminated for not being their buddy. You got canned for not being trained (their fault, not yours)

You are not using your religion as your basis for discrimination, you are using the fact that you were discriminated against because they gave you no training or no chance of being successful.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Of course there is. You said it yourself. They want an old buddy (ex employee back). He left the company, didn't like his choices or failed adn decided he wanted to come back. They booted you. You got discriminated for not being their buddy. You got canned for not being trained (their fault, not yours)

You are not using your religion as your basis for discrimination, you are using the fact that you were discriminated against because they gave you no training or no chance of being successful.

Meh. I don't know bro. Sounds like I'm fishing for something.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Don't be jobless too long or I'll have to start lumping you in with my cw jokes.

 

[stosstruppe]

Meh. I don't know bro. Sounds like I'm fishing for something.

The right not to be treated like a fucking mug?

 

[AAP]

That varies state to state. You can fire anyone here for any reason other than their race, religion, etc.

Good luck finding a job dude.

FL is a right to work state. They can fire you for the way you comb your hair. But that doesn't protect them from discrimination. Or else every business in the nation would be working here.

When I worked at TeamHealth, I closed the largest deal that the industry - not just my company - had ever seen (at that time), bringing in 3 states plus the two US Virgin Islands.

When my commission was due, the CEO and board of directors brought my boss and myself into a meeting room and handed us our checks and said "we have NEVER written a check that large before for anyone, let alone two people". I knew instantly wtf was going on and in 3 weeks had left the company for my current employer. Sure enough, the next quarterly meeting, all sales people plus my boss were brought in and presented with a contract that established a cap on the amount of commission they could, both overall for the year and for the contract itself. Even if you brought in multiple biz, if you hit that cap in your first couple commissions, you didn't get a dollar more.

My boss refused to sign it, they fired him, he sued for wage discrimnation and won.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Don't be jobless too long or I'll have to start lumping you in with my cw jokes.

lol I'll try not to

 

[the_alcatraz]

The right not to be treated like a fucking mug?

I'm going to sleep on that and we'll see what happens.

 

[needtogetarmy]

I don't think there is any form of discrimintation, and I don't want to get the company in any trouble. I would feel like shit if I got the company in any trouble over nothing. I have all the assets to find a good job and I have the skills neccessary to make it work.

Looking for excuses to why I failed / was laid off is reaching....the decision was unfair and I deserved better....but to say it is discrimination because I'm muslim is asking for preferential treatment...I'm just like anybody else.....and will not stoop down to the level of using the race card to score a few extra bucks....

Thanks for your advice though bro....it is apreciated

With a positive attitude like that you wont have a problem finding a new job at all! +1

 

[c-sharp minor]

Sucks bro. The current job market is definitely in your favour though.

You may be interested in this, if you're so inclined.

http://www.canadianlawsite.ca/employment.htm

 

[75th]

No bullshit, I'm sorry this happened to you bro. Even if you saw it coming, its never a good feeling especially if you have a family...as you do.

But honestly, if you even thought about playing the race card then you should be ashamed of yourself...unless they gave you reason to believe this is due to your ethnicity which it doesn't sound like it was.

 

[gonelifting]

FL is a right to work state.

Is there a right not to work state?

I want to move there.

 

[75th]

No bullshit, I'm sorry this happened to you bro. Even if you saw it coming, its never a good feeling especially if you have a family...as you do.

But honestly, if you even thought about playing the race card then you should be ashamed of yourself...unless they gave you reason to believe this is due to your ethnicity which it doesn't sound like it was.

And FYI I only say that about the race card because I'm just jealous I don't have the opportunity to use it.

Maybe I should move to Nigeria.

 

[jnevin]

And FYI I only say that about the race card because I'm just jealous I don't have the opportunity to use it.

Maybe I should move to Nigeria.

The name of that country is dangerously close to being racist.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Sucks man.

Go get a better job now. good luck.

In sales you don't get as many opportunities to *do better*. Many companies it is sink or swim, has nothing to do with your work ethic necessarily.

Use Gonelifting's advice and look on this as a POSITIVE OPPORTNITY. No need to overthink it. Just look at it this way, "The company/this position and I were just not a fit for one another..... NEXT!"

I know it is easy for me to say, but similar circumstances have befallen me and every single time it was an incredible blessing in disguise.

 

[75th]

The name of that country is dangerously close to being racist.

Part of my sex appeal is that the only way I walk is on a fine line.

 

[jnevin]

Part of my sex appeal is that the only way I walk is on a fine line.

I completely agree.

 

[the_alcatraz]

With a positive attitude like that you wont have a problem finding a new job at all! +1

Thanks bro. I try to stay motivated and inspirated no matter how bad the odds are.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Sucks bro. The current job market is definitely in your favour though.

You may be interested in this, if you're so inclined.

http://www.canadianlawsite.ca/employment.htm

Thanks for looking that up. I'll read it in a bit

 

[the_alcatraz]

No bullshit, I'm sorry this happened to you bro. Even if you saw it coming, its never a good feeling especially if you have a family...as you do.

But honestly, if you even thought about playing the race card then you should be ashamed of yourself...unless they gave you reason to believe this is due to your ethnicity which it doesn't sound like it was.

I won't play the race card. Didn't even cross my mind bro. Some people suggested it, but I wouldn't play it. Its shit like this that give immigrants a bad rep.

Thank you for your words bro.

 

[velvett]

If it wasn't the job of your dreams I would just look at it as an opportunity for a better job. How ever don't forget the experience and don't let someone put you in the same position again.

Good Luck

 

[the_alcatraz]

In sales you don't get as many opportunities to *do better*. Many companies it is sink or swim, has nothing to do with your work ethic necessarily.

Use Gonelifting's advice and look on this as a POSITIVE OPPORTNITY. No need to overthink it. Just look at it this way, "The company/this position and I were just not a fit for one another..... NEXT!"

I know it is easy for me to say, but similar circumstances have befallen me and every single time it was an incredible blessing in disguise.

That's for the positive re-enforcement BM!

I will def. stay motivated and will look for a better job. I think it's time for me to move out of sales.

 

[the_alcatraz]

If it wasn't the job of your dreams I would just look at it as an opportunity for a better job. How ever don't forget the experience and don't let someone put you in the same position again.

Good Luck

Mucho Gracias Vel!

Thank you for the advice.

 

[blueta2]

Oh sorry to hear this

I have connections in TO, What are you looking for?

 

[rnch]

i would contact the EEOC (equal employment oppertunity comission)..your tax dollars pay for it's services for you.

 

[SpyWizard]

public or private company?? make sure you apply of unemployment right away.. doesn't matter if you need/want it.. it will hurt them.. cause their premiums to go up more..

 

[EZ_E]

I feel for ya, Traz.....I was "fired" in June, after being the top salesman in the company the month B4, not just the NJ office, the WHOLE company....Saw it comin, too, but I still have a scar from when I removed the knife from my back....

On the good note, I now have 2 banks throwing down to get me. You'll move on AND UP before you know it.....

 

[Raptorex]

Bro, in my opinion - it is in your best interest at this point, you have more to offer them than they will ever give you credit for. Move forward, don't look back and remember it is not a reflection on you, sometimes environments are not always a good fit.

Best wishes.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Oh sorry to hear this

I have connections in TO, What are you looking for?

Marketing

 

[the_alcatraz]

i would contact the EEOC (equal employment oppertunity comission)..your tax dollars pay for it's services for you.

don't wanna get dirty bro...i just wanna move on from here

 

[the_alcatraz]

public or private company?? make sure you apply of unemployment right away.. doesn't matter if you need/want it.. it will hurt them.. cause their premiums to go up more..

I dnt want to hurt anyone bro.....I just want to get a better job. I'm starting to think it's a good thing I got laid off.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I feel for ya, Traz.....I was "fired" in June, after being the top salesman in the company the month B4, not just the NJ office, the WHOLE company....Saw it comin, too, but I still have a scar from when I removed the knife from my back....

On the good note, I now have 2 banks throwing down to get me. You'll move on AND UP before you know it.....

thnx bro...good luck with yours as well

 

[the_alcatraz]

Bro, in my opinion - it is in your best interest at this point, you have more to offer them than they will ever give you credit for. Move forward, don't look back and remember it is not a reflection on you, sometimes environments are not always a good fit.

Best wishes.

thnx bro

you rock!!

 

[ndto]

I dnt want to hurt anyone bro.....I just want to get a better job. I'm starting to think it's a good thing I got laid off.

sounds like it came just in time, usually when someone feels that way about work they dont leave their job because of the fear of the uncertian

but this forces you to find something better, kinda like a blessing hidden in a punch in the face

good luck with your job search

 

[the_alcatraz]

sounds like it came just in time, usually when someone feels that way about work they dont leave their job because of the fear of the uncertian

but this forces you to find something better, kinda like a blessing hidden in a punch in the face

good luck with your job search

thnx bro...i'm hoping this is a blessing in disguise

 

[all the whey]

I HOPE you just looked at him and said " LOL, RAWR" and handed him a pic of yourself....

I bet he would have kept him if he saw the pic with his big tits.

sek-c!!!!!

 

[-Ariel-]

I just got here... and feel bad that this shit has got you kinda frustrated. You know this is an opportunity to not be stuck in a situation in which you know in your heart you gave your best and I know that if you couldn't live up to expectations when it comes to being able to close deals, then the expectations in accord with the territory were not realistic then. I'm off all week, as a mini vaca while house sitting, and two days ago, rummaging through uncles library room, found The Tipping Point, phenomenal read that blew my mind cause, it revolved around the same ideas promoted in grad school.

Gladwell, the author, illuminates the common qualities found in the most persuasive people found in our society. They are called Salesmen... I know, kinda prosaic, but still great fucking read. These people have a huge role in initiating social epidemics, by persuading people to do something when they are uncertain. They emanate huge charisma, likeabilty, energy, the ability to read people to a very high degree, and are optimistic. Moreover, they have that subtle, indescribable, hidden quality that inexplicably uplifts moods.

Bro, I know you got these qualities to a high degree... your ambitious nature will only guide you to a better gig. You are a hard worker, great at establishing relationships with clients, and are passionate about excelling at what you do, this sincere attitude will only produce results. Don't be delusional and even for a minute entertain thoughts that wreak of self doubt...

 

[the_alcatraz]

thanks bro....I'll try not to lol

I just got here... and feel bad that this shit has got you kinda frustrated. You know this is an opportunity to not be stuck in a situation in which you know in your heart you gave your best and I know that if you couldn't live up to expectations when it comes to being able to close deals, then the expectations in accord with the territory were not realistic then. I'm off all week, as a mini vaca while house sitting, and two days ago, rummaging through uncles library room, found The Tipping Point, phenomenal read that blew my mind cause, it revolved around the same ideas promoted in grad school.

Gladwell, the author, illuminates the common qualities found in the most persuasive people found in our society. They are called Salesmen... I know, kinda prosaic, but still great fucking read. These people have a huge role in initiating social epidemics, by persuading people to do something when they are uncertain. They emanate huge charisma, likeabilty, energy, the ability to read people to a very high degree, and are optimistic. Moreover, they have that subtle, indescribable, hidden quality that inexplicably uplifts moods.

Bro, I know you got these qualities to a high degree... your ambitious nature will only guide you to a better gig. You are a hard worker, great at establishing relationships with clients, and are passionate about excelling at what you do, this sincere attitude will only produce results. Don't be delusional and even for a minute entertain thoughts that wreak of self doubt...

 

[Smurfy]

I was an account manager in the sales department of an electronics distributor. Most of my interactions were over the phone / email.

damn
how can they justify firing you when you recently were promoted?

 

[the_alcatraz]

damn
how can they justify firing you when you recently were promoted?

they don't feel like I can improve in this position and I was given ample time which is bs but whtever I'm looking for another job

 

[ndto]

eh let it roll off you back man, its better they did this to you now rather than later when you could be in a worse situation,

i actually gave this subject a lot of thought because im in the middle of looking for work right now (also in ssauga) but i think im not looking hard enough because i currently have work to fall back on

if anything look at this situation as a way to expand on who you are as a person and what you hope to achieve, how you react to this now will signal who you will have grown into later when you have a better job

 

[the_alcatraz]

eh let it roll off you back man, its better they did this to you now rather than later when you could be in a worse situation,

i actually gave this subject a lot of thought because im in the middle of looking for work right now (also in ssauga) but i think im not looking hard enough because i currently have work to fall back on

if anything look at this situation as a way to expand on who you are as a person and what you hope to achieve, how you react to this now will signal who you will have grown into later when you have a better job

I hear ya bro....solid advice there

Good luck to you as well

 

[_Yossarian_]

no advice to offer bro, but best of luck in finding a new gig.
sounds like you have a positive/glass half full attitude, Im sure youll do fine

 

[the_alcatraz]

no advice to offer bro, but best of luck in finding a new gig.
sounds like you have a positive/glass half full attitude, Im sure youll do fine

thanks bro....i appreciate your input

 

[sixxtoes]

obviously it is a shitty company for doing you dirty like this, so it was a good thing that it happened. always gotta think +

 

[the_alcatraz]

obviously it is a shitty company for doing you dirty like this, so it was a good thing that it happened. always gotta think +

I guess you're right. You all make very valid points.

 

[stilleto]

that sucks.
but, maybe it'll open a betterer door for you.

 

[ortiz34]

Sucks you lost your job
dust yourself off and get another one

 

[ortiz34]

Also
*moved to "one sided sob story forum"*

 

[titeNtonedN08]

you'll be fine! you're gonna be glad it happened this way once you start your next bigger/better career move!

stay positive, and the world will send great things your way

 

[the_alcatraz]

that sucks.
but, maybe it'll open a betterer door for you.

thnx letto I hope you're right....I'm applying for jobs as we speak

 

[the_alcatraz]

Also
*moved to "one sided sob story forum"*

I'll take those as kind and gentle words in a weird ortiz kinda way....thnx bro

 

[the_alcatraz]

you'll be fine! you're gonna be glad it happened this way once you start your next bigger/better career move!

stay positive, and the world will send great things your way

thnx hun

 

[calveless wonder]

i didnt read alot of the responses, but what was your production like?

I'm sure as you know sales is a bottomline business bro..if you weren't producing shit is bound to happen. But if you were or just had a bad month or even two, than that's horseshit.

 

[the_alcatraz]

i didnt read alot of the responses, but what was your production like?

I'm sure as you know sales is a bottomline business bro..if you weren't producing shit is bound to happen. But if you were or just had a bad month or even two, than that's horseshit.

I was put in a position with no training what so ever and given very limited tools to attain an unbelievably high sales target in a market where it is almost impossible to sell. I failed. I did not meet my target for two months in a row. I only got one warning, then I got laid off.

 

[calveless wonder]

I was put in a position with no training what so ever and given very limited tools to attain an unbelievably high sales target in a market where it is almost impossible to sell. I failed. I did not meet my target for two months in a row. I only got one warning, then I got laid off.

sounds about right, if they're paying you a base they put alot of pressure on you.

sounds like a shitty operation IMHO. training is very important.
you just have to find a better place to work for with a good support system

 

[BMK792]

sucks to hear it man, i hope you find a wayyy better job quickly and easily!

 

[the_alcatraz]

sounds about right, if they're paying you a base they put alot of pressure on you.

sounds like a shitty operation IMHO. training is very important.
you just have to find a better place to work for with a good support system

i want to move out of sales and into marketing - it's where my heart's at and what i'm good at!

 

[the_alcatraz]

sucks to hear it man, i hope you find a wayyy better job quickly and easily!

I hope so bro....thnx

 

[calveless wonder]

i want to move out of sales and into marketing - it's where my heart's at and what i'm good at!

you and me are very alike. i dont like sales...but i love marketing. i'm pretty good at sales though and people generally like me, it just wears thin on me after awhile.