My First Cycle

[holy ghost]

yeah hyp is right that cyle is fuckin horrible

Theoretically, Would you pop 6 vicodins instead of 2 because your friend said its better?

 

[slat1]

This is my idea for my first cycle / after a few more months cardio. I have read on the topic for about 20 hours and can answer all the little "noobie" quiz questions.

I have worked out for about 10 years (nothing too intense), played football, rugby, baseball. Tried 3 pro-hormone cycles with good diet and seen the expected results.

31 years old, 6'2", 240lbs, high BF %, about 19% and falling.

Here it is:
WK 1 - 750mg Sustanon front load
This makes no sense at all since you are using dbol for three weeks
Wk 2 - 5, 30mg Thai Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed
If you are dead set on the dbol stick to 250 from week one and start the dbol week one also
Wk 2 - 5, 250mg Sustanon EW
Wk 5 - 8, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 300mg EW
Wk 5 - 8, 500 mg Sustanon ED
Wk 5- 8, Winstrol oral 25mg ED
Wk 9 nothing
Wk 10, 100 mg Clomid ED
you may want to double check the half life of sustanon. I think you are a little early with it
WK 10 - 13, 40mg Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - ED

Any Suggestions?

That is a pretty crazy first cycle.
It is also more complex then what most national level competitors use.
I would keep it simple and run one compound and see how you react.
You will have no idea how you are responding to any of those compounds.

 

[rudy76]

Thanks for all the advice.

PS: I have read enough to know that there are about a 100 ways to approach your first cycle. There is the safest way, only test's; and there is the other theory that your gains will be largest on your first cycle so use all the same gear as an experienced guy but just at lower doses.

I think I'll drop the winstrol and Deca and go only 3 weeks Dbol, 10 weeks sust.

How's that for a compromise.

 

[hyp1]

Thanks for all the advice.

PS: I have read enough to know that there are about a 100 ways to approach your first cycle. There is the safest way, only test's; and there is the other theory that your gains will be largest on your first cycle so use all the same gear as an experienced guy but just at lower doses.

I think I'll drop the winstrol and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and go only 3 weeks Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , 10 weeks Sustanon.

How's that for a compromise.

imo honestly? not much of one at all....but slightly better.I don't condone anyone using more than one compound on their first cycle,to me that's like trying to run before you can walk.

but you're going to do what you're going to do if you mind is already made up and there's not much anyone can do about it.

whatever your choice,best of luck to you

 

[rfowler]

That is a pretty crazy first cycle.
It is also more complex then what most national level competitors use.
I would keep it simple and run one compound and see how you react.
You will have no idea how you are responding to any of those compounds.

This cycle makes me want to take a crap.....horribly thought out. Im glad you posted it here for advice first so thats a plus but your begging for sides and possible health issues. your first cycle needs to be smartly planned and simple like slat said, these bros know there shit. Keep researching and I can tell you with certainty that less is more with steroids. Mixing all those compunds with no experience isa recipe for high blood pressure which leads to kidney failure, not to mention your nips might puff as soon as that dbol hits your system thats how I react to the shit.

 

[slat1]

Thanks for all the advice.

PS: I have read enough to know that there are about a 100 ways to approach your first cycle. There is the safest way, only test's; and there is the other theory that your gains will be largest on your first cycle so use all the same gear as an experienced guy but just at lower doses.

I think I'll drop the winstrol and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and go only 3 weeks Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , 10 weeks Sustanon.

How's that for a compromise.

Those are theory's.
I slapped on 20lbs with 250mgs of test.
I have rarely seen someone gain more then that with a gram on their first cycle.
Its all diet driven.
I am also fortunate enought to be friends with IFBB pro's and famous diet guru's. I know what they recomend and none of them would say a gram on a first run.
A gram is what super heavy's on the national shows use.
I would not listen to a word anyone said that recomended that.
Then again that is just me.

 

[holy ghost]

fuck man just do the bread and butter if you really want' to push it

This is going no where.

 

[Thunderclap47]

Hey Slat. How's the healing process going for you? Best of luck bro.

 

[big greg 82]

this is interesting...



it should be mandatory for all first cycle

wks 1-10 test only!

 

[slat1]

Hey Slat. How's the healing process going for you? Best of luck bro.

Pretty good.
The leg has healed.
The thumb is close.
I did legs last night.
Ate clean all day yesterday too. Got five meals in.
I pretty much starved for two months with four meals a day and dropped to 240.
I am working and NPC show tomorrow so no gym. I will start back up again on Monday.
I am ready to go full speed ahead.
Get those six super clean meals in and hit the gym five days a week.
Give me a month and I will be ripped at 250+ clean (and I have patheticly low test).
I bet I can make 255 after starving my body. Got to have 8 abs though or its not worth it for me!
Tomorrow should be motivating. Some serious LHW's are competing and a few IFBB pros will be there.
Add to that I will be sitting with some diet/supplement guru's and I have everyone I need to motivate my ass!
Its been two months too long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!