My experience - 1st cycle. Thoughts on 2nd?

[the700level]

Hello EF people, 1st post on here. My last home elite-bodiez apparently was shut down

I ran my first cycle from Jan-April. Ran about 375mg test cyp for the first 4 weeks or so, then up to 500mg for the last 8

First things first, gains were unbelievable. I was 195lbs before i started and hit 222lbs at one point during it. I get comments that im still on something even 3 months after. Im trying to cut but it seems like the gains didnt go anywere.

I can honestly say i felt uncomfortable towards the end of it, and i think my hormones were out of whack. I could barely get it up

I too clomid at 50mg and nolva at 10mg for 4 weeks for pct. Now 2 months later, i have serious back acne. New pimples everyday. I believe this is from changing the dose and not ramping down towards the end of cycle

As far as 2nd cycle, should i just keep the test at 350mgs or so? Maybe the 500 in my first cycle was too high causing side effects? Should i run anything with it?

Thanks for reading

 

[bonacris]

Hello EF people, 1st post on here. My last home elite-bodiez apparently was shut down

I ran my first cycle from Jan-April. Ran about 375mg test cyp for the first 4 weeks or so, then up to 500mg for the last 8

First things first, gains were unbelievable. I was 195lbs before i started and hit 222lbs at one point during it. I get comments that im still on something even 3 months after. Im trying to cut but it seems like the gains didnt go anywere.

I can honestly say i felt uncomfortable towards the end of it, and i think my hormones were out of whack. I could barely get it up

I too clomid at 50mg and nolva at 10mg for 4 weeks for pct. Now 2 months later, i have serious back acne. New pimples everyday. I believe this is from changing the dose and not ramping down towards the end of cycle

As far as 2nd cycle, should i just keep the test at 350mgs or so? Maybe the 500 in my first cycle was too high causing side effects? Should i run anything with it?

Thanks for reading

You need to do a lot more research man.. look at the stickies on the PCT section to really do a PCT.. nolva is worthless, it made me feel like death.. I got really bad acne when I used nolva.. what kind of on cycle supports did you use.. if you are worried about hormones then get you blood work done.. you shouldn't do another cycle until you have done more research.. and you came to the right place at EF

Also we need some stats
Age
Weight
Height
Bodyfat %
Years training

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[dylangemelli]

Hello EF people, 1st post on here. My last home elite-bodiez apparently was shut down

I ran my first cycle from Jan-April. Ran about 375mg test cyp for the first 4 weeks or so, then up to 500mg for the last 8

First things first, gains were unbelievable. I was 195lbs before i started and hit 222lbs at one point during it. I get comments that im still on something even 3 months after. Im trying to cut but it seems like the gains didnt go anywere.

I can honestly say i felt uncomfortable towards the end of it, and i think my hormones were out of whack. I could barely get it up

I too clomid at 50mg and nolva at 10mg for 4 weeks for pct. Now 2 months later, i have serious back acne. New pimples everyday. I believe this is from changing the dose and not ramping down towards the end of cycle

As far as 2nd cycle, should i just keep the test at 350mgs or so? Maybe the 500 in my first cycle was too high causing side effects? Should i run anything with it?

Thanks for reading

welcome to elite bro...

please post your stats...

age/height/weight/body fat and we will be glad to help you...

 

[RickRock13]

Your PCT was lacking and thats why you had problems. If you want advice, we do need your stats first bro.

 

[the700level]

Sorry about that, im used to having my stats in my profile

Age - 26
Height - 6'1
Current weight 195 (cutting)
Bf - 14% roughly

 

[the700level]

Years training - 5

On cycle i used exemestane to try to regulate estrogen

Pre cycle bloodwork, test was a little above middle of range

On cycle, estrogen was SKY HIGH

still waiting for post cycle bloodwork when my hormones are in check

 

[dylangemelli]

Years training - 5

On cycle i used exemestane to try to regulate estrogen

Pre cycle bloodwork, test was a little above middle of range

On cycle, estrogen was SKY HIGH

still waiting for post cycle bloodwork when my hormones are in check

most of the problem was your pct was lacking bro... we will get you set up on a much better pct for your next cycle... i think you should wait until you get your bloodwork back and once you get that i will be happy to set you up on a new cycle... i will set you a nice cutter that will still get you some size...

 

[the700level]

Good stuff man .. I appreciate the replies

 

[dylangemelli]

Good stuff man .. I appreciate the replies

anytime bro!

 

[Dylan22]

Sorry about that, im used to having my stats in my profile

Age - 26
Height - 6'1
Current weight 195 (cutting)
Bf - 14% roughly

Hey bro, I don't understand?
So you went up to 222lbs on cycle and now you say your 195lbs? But u say u kept nearly everything u put on?

 

[dylangemelli]

he said very clearly that he is cutting right now but "it seems" like his gains didn't go anywhere... he didn't say that they didn't but it seems that way even though he's cutting... he never said he kept everything but he's obviously not trying to

 

[Dylan22]

he said very clearly that he is cutting right now but "it seems" like his gains didn't go anywhere... he didn't say that they didn't but it seems that way even though he's cutting... he never said he kept everything but he's obviously not trying to

Ohk fair enough bro. It just seems lyk a huge difference, that's a huge amount of bf gone if kept the lean muscle. Good work tho that's awsum!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Another casualty of Clomid the dick killer and Nolva the gains killer. You have acne from the estrogen spike of Clomid.

Read this before you do anything else:http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...apy/very-best-pct-2010-right-here-712121.html

 

[the700level]

Obviously at least 12 lbs was water weight, i think i put on at least 7-8 lbs of muscle.

What is the standard post cycle for you guys? Of all 85 hours of research ive done, clomid and nolva are standard

 

[dylangemelli]

Obviously at least 12 lbs was water weight, i think i put on at least 7-8 lbs of muscle.

What is the standard post cycle for you guys? Of all 85 hours of research ive done, clomid and nolva are standard

nolva is pure shit bro... i mean just fucking garbage... the only thing standard about it is that it doesn't do shit...



clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
unleashed/post cycle combo
daa
forma stanzol

this will give you the proper recovery

i never run a pct without mk2866 as well but thats completely optional