Most women are shitty in bed!!

[nolin]

You know it doesn't surprise me that most of these threads are about what guys need to do to please women. I'm so sick of hearing about what we (guys) need to do. In my opinion most women absolutely suck in bed. I've had 1 girl that was able to make me cum from a blow job and most of em' act like it's a stick of dynamite they're sucking. No my dick doesn't stink, and I'm not a pin dick for you would be excuse mongers. Here's a clue: HEY GIRLS, LEARN HOW TO FUCK! And don't forget the underside of the head, it's the equivalent of a clit, also butt fucking has become so popular because there's so much sloppy stretched out pussy out there!! No wonder all you women say you need a big dick, you probably could rival the grand canyon. Here's another clue, pussy exercises, it improves elasticity and strength. There I'm done bitchin', prove me right and don't reply to this post if you're a female, stay self absorbed and worry about yourself some more

 

[2 ton hoss]

THE SIMPLE SOLUTION IS TO BUY AN ARTIFICIAL VAGINA.

 

[YoungBlood]

You know it doesn't surprise me that most of these threads are about what guys need to do to please women. I'm so sick of hearing about what we (guys) need to do. In my opinion most women absolutely suck in bed. I've had 1 girl that was able to make me cum from a blow job and most of em' act like it's a stick of dynamite they're sucking. No my dick doesn't stink, and I'm not a pin dick for you would be excuse mongers. Here's a clue: HEY GIRLS, LEARN HOW TO FUCK! And don't forget the underside of the head, it's the equivalent of a clit, also butt fucking has become so popular because there's so much sloppy stretched out pussy out there!! No wonder all you women say you need a big dick, you probably could rival the grand canyon. Here's another clue, pussy exercises, it improves elasticity and strength. There I'm done bitchin', prove me right and don't reply to this post if you're a female, stay self absorbed and worry about yourself some more

 

[wiseguy7]

Nolin I absolutley agree with every comment you made. Your post should be made into a sticky thread. Today thats all your hearing is what do girls like. Looking at this first page of threads we have topics on uncut/cut d!cks, size, big guys lean guys who gives a fvck what girls want. Banging a chick in the ass has become so popular today not just because of the pvssy being as wide as a football stadium but more then have the school has be inside some of these hoes. Great post Nolin you speak the truth.

 

[Cindy99]

the world is like that because you guys walk around all day and night wondering how and when you'll next get laid - your life centers around the attempt to bag a hottie.

we can snap our fingers, or flirt for 5 minutes, or post a provocative thread on a silly website, and we'll have 50 offers for sex in 10 minutes - we could be the hottest thing since sliced bread or a real bow-wow, coyote ugly bitchy person, but you'll still want to put your you-know-what in you-know-where...

i don't know why God made us that way, but He did & I thank Him for it every day!!!!!

 

[nolin]

get over yourself

the world is like that because you guys walk around all day and night wondering how and when you'll next get laid - your life centers around the attempt to bag a hottie.

we can snap our fingers, or flirt for 5 minutes, or post a provocative thread on a silly website, and we'll have 50 offers for sex in 10 minutes - we could be the hottest thing since sliced bread or a real bow-wow, coyote ugly bitchy person, but you'll still want to put your you-know-what in you-know-where...

i don't know why God made us that way, but He did & I thank Him for it every day!!!!!

Oh Jesus, get over yourself! With all due respect Cindy I do not walk around all day wondering, pussy is easy to get if you know how women think and that's not hard to figure out. By the way if your so sure of your importance go to a gay bar at closing time, there's a popular saying among gay guys that most straight guys are a 6 pack away from being gay, or maybe they just want to get their dick sucked by someone who knows what they're doing. What bothered me about the threads is that you ladies don't ask too many questions about how to improve as lovers, maybe that's why so many guys cheat! It's not because we are enamored with women, we're on a never ending search to find one that knows what the fuck they're doing!

 

[Cindy99]

i'm not just talking about me - i mean women in general. men are in control of "demand" and women are in control of "supply" - that's just the way it is. any decent looking woman can walk into any bar, restaurant, business situation, etc., and get laid if she wants to. guys have to work for it - its just the way it is!!!

 

[Longhorn85]

men are in control of "demand" and women are in control of "supply" - that's just the way it is.

any decent looking woman can walk into any bar, restaurant, business situation, etc., and get laid if she wants to. guys have to work for it - its just the way it is!!!

You're right Cindy, men are in contol of demand, and women in control of supply. We demand pussy, and you supply it. Men are in control, ultimately. Women get fucked, men do the fucking.

 

[nolin]

Still avoiding

i'm not just talking about me - i mean women in general. men are in control of "demand" and women are in control of "supply" - that's just the way it is. any decent looking woman can walk into any bar, restaurant, business situation, etc., and get laid if she wants to. guys have to work for it - its just the way it is!!!

I'm glad you are engaging in this conversation but why won't you comment of the fact that no women ask how to be better in bed? That's what bugs me. It seems men are far more curtious lovers and want to improve while the women just lay there and go, " Make me cum ". I think the ladies in general need to realize they have some work to do.

 

[Cindy99]

but we don't have work to do!! my point is that no matter if we insist on laying there like a dead fish, or walking into a bar and yelling out "who wants to fuck?" we'll still get sex. you men are the demanders of sex, so you have to work for it, and work to get better etc., we don't have to work - nolin - you might not like it, but tough shit for you hee hee hee

 

[The Dude]

Cindy, you're off base with that last statement. You do have work to do. Yes, you can get cock virtually any time you want IF you're attractive. Unattractive women get used much more as blow job "devices." However, if you find a cock you like and want to keep around, you better work for it. If you don't, it...he, won't stick around and make you happy. Sure, you can get laid, but can you keep him? From what you're saying, I doubt you're there yet.

 

[nolin]

Thanks for proving me right

but we don't have work to do!! my point is that no matter if we insist on laying there like a dead fish, or walking into a bar and yelling out "who wants to fuck?" we'll still get sex. you men are the demanders of sex, so you have to work for it, and work to get better etc., we don't have to work - nolin - you might not like it, but tough shit for you hee hee hee

Ok, how much more simple can I make this?It's quality I'm talking about, animals get to fuck too but I would hope human beings take it to a higher level. However, with cretins like you running around it makes cheating mandatory! Also I must tell you that women demand it too and if you're one of those " I don't need it " types I feel sorry for the unlucky person stuck with your ass, oh no, wait, he probably is fucking someone else as well since you obviously have the intelligence of a gnat! He he he

 

[Lifter4Life]

You are correct The Dude. No doubt.

 

[ABall]

You know it doesn't surprise me that most of these threads are about what guys need to do to please women. I'm so sick of hearing about what we (guys) need to do. In my opinion most women absolutely suck in bed. I've had 1 girl that was able to make me cum from a blow job and most of em' act like it's a stick of dynamite they're sucking. No my dick doesn't stink, and I'm not a pin dick for you would be excuse mongers. Here's a clue: HEY GIRLS, LEARN HOW TO FUCK! And don't forget the underside of the head, it's the equivalent of a clit, also butt fucking has become so popular because there's so much sloppy stretched out pussy out there!! No wonder all you women say you need a big dick, you probably could rival the grand canyon. Here's another clue, pussy exercises, it improves elasticity and strength. There I'm done bitchin', prove me right and don't reply to this post if you're a female, stay self absorbed and worry about yourself some more

You couldn't have hit the nail much harder on the head.


A

 

[TJ24]

great post. Women are selfish creatures when it comes to relationships and sex, it's about time they smarten up and do some work for there man

 

[Frackal]

Fuckin' A.


PS- Cindy's a slut.

 

[woollis2]

Sorry, I have to voice my opinion (you may not like it, but opinions are like assholes, everyone has one).

There are some ladies (like me) that are out to please a man during sex. I ask the man what he likes, how he likes it. I want the man to tell me what feels good and what don't. BUT, I also expect that in return. I've had men that SUCK in bed just because they think all women are the same or they don't communicate and ask what feels good or how they like it. Turn abouts fair play.

As far as us women being selfish...I believe men are selfish. Most men (whether or not the woman SUCKED as you're trying to state) a man gets off and that's it. Very few men try to please a woman. I work my ass off to do what he likes and how he likes, whether it be sucking his dick, fucking, or whatever just so he will enjoy himself. I would rather please a man than have a man please me (don't get me wrong, I LOVE it when a man tries to please me).

Do you understand what I'm trying to say? That not all women are selfish and don't try to please a man and try not to "SUCK".

 

[Grizzly]

I've had 1 girl that was able to make me cum from a blow job and most of em' act like it's a stick of dynamite they're sucking. No my dick doesn't stink, and I'm not a pin dick for you would be excuse mongers.

Have we been fucking the same girls? Sounds like my life. You ask them to suck your dick and they act like you're asking them to disfigure themselves. "I don't like to do that." Who the fuck asked them if they liked it? I haven't. I ask them to do it, I don't say "Would you like to suck my dick." I don't like boring, gay, same ol' thing every time, three positioned, lights off sex but I do it anyway because that's what the girl is into and I attempt to make her happy. Seems to me that it's only courtesy to suck it up and go down if that's what will make me happy...and it will!

 

[nolin]

Will you marry me?

Sorry, I have to voice my opinion (you may not like it, but opinions are like assholes, everyone has one).

There are some ladies (like me) that are out to please a man during sex. I ask the man what he likes, how he likes it. I want the man to tell me what feels good and what don't. BUT, I also expect that in return. I've had men that SUCK in bed just because they think all women are the same or they don't communicate and ask what feels good or how they like it. Turn abouts fair play.

As far as us women being selfish...I believe men are selfish. Most men (whether or not the woman SUCKED as you're trying to state) a man gets off and that's it. Very few men try to please a woman. I work my ass off to do what he likes and how he likes, whether it be sucking his dick, fucking, or whatever just so he will enjoy himself. I would rather please a man than have a man please me (don't get me wrong, I LOVE it when a man tries to please me).

Do you understand what I'm trying to say? That not all women are selfish and don't try to please a man and try not to "SUCK".

Holy fuckin' shit! I can't believe you exist! Will you marry me!? I understand your situation, and you are right that some men are selfish, I was saying that judging by the posts women weren't interested in getting better at it. My experience and those of other men, ( the posts on this thread will attest to), have been mostly negative in regards to womens sexual performance. You however are the rare exception to the rule. Whoever is lucky enough to have you is the envy of 99% of the men out there. God bless you , you beautiful creature! You are the kind of women that we men are in desperate search of, you give me and every guy on this planet hope, YOUR THE SHIT!!!!!!!!

 

[starfish]

you guys are goofy

 

[supertech69]

I've dumped many women & some were very sexy (looking) but, they weren't wortha damn in bed. Sure we'll pick up damn near anything decent if the situation is right but, doesn't mean we'll come back for more. You ladies are just another notch in our belt. We do it so we can say "yeah I fuct her". Means absolutely nothing to us. Chances are, unless you are totally hot & very good in bed, when we pick you up at a bar, we don't want to cuddle, we don't want to talk or have breakfast, we want your ass out of our house when the deed is done. You (easy women as a whole), are nothing more than a cum dumpster. So if you want to stand out among the keepers & get a star next to your name in the black book you better get your shit together. Nobody wants a pussy they can stick their entire fist in. So untill you learn to exercise that shit & tighten it up, better get used to having your hair pulled & taking it in the ass! & if you can't fuck you damn well better swallow!

 

[nolin]

Damn, preach it brother!

I've dumped many women & some were very sexy (looking) but, they weren't wortha damn in bed. Sure we'll pick up damn near anything decent if the situation is right but, doesn't mean we'll come back for more. You ladies are just another notch in our belt. We do it so we can say "yeah I fuct her". Means absolutely nothing to us. Chances are, unless you are totally hot & very good in bed, when we pick you up at a bar, we don't want to cuddle, we don't want to talk or have breakfast, we want your ass out of our house when the deed is done. You (easy women as a whole), are nothing more than a cum dumpster. So if you want to stand out among the keepers & get a star next to your name in the black book you better get your shit together. Nobody wants a pussy they can stick their entire fist in. So untill you learn to exercise that shit & tighten it up, better get used to having your hair pulled & taking it in the ass! & if you can't fuck you damn well better swallow!

Shit dude, I think you just one upped me! I motion this thread a sticky! All in favor concurr

 

[supertech69]

"I"

 

[Ercole]

Wow! So much rage and hostility at each other!! Sex is supposed to be a good experience for all concerned, but it doesn't seem to work out that way.

Isn't it interesting that back in the "bad old days" before the sexual revolution men and women seemed to like each other a whole lot more?

Now that everyone's hooking up with everybody, it seems we hate each other's guts. This is not the way it's supposed to be ...

How some of the guys in this thread can screw at all when they seem to hate, loathe, and despise women so much ... I don't get it!

I'm not Puritan. I grew up during the sexual revolution and sowed plenty of wild oats, but I never *hated* anybody I slept with. I liked or loved every one. What's the point of sleeping with someone you hate?

 

[starfish]

Wow! So much rage and hostility at each other!! Sex is supposed to be a good experience for all concerned, but it doesn't seem to work out that way.

Isn't it interesting that back in the "bad old days" before the sexual revolution men and women seemed to like each other a whole lot more?

Now that everyone's hooking up with everybody, it seems we hate each other's guts. This is not the way it's supposed to be ...

How some of the guys in this thread can screw at all when they seem to hate, loathe, and despise women so much ... I don't get it!

I'm not Puritan. I grew up during the sexual revolution and sowed plenty of wild oats, but I never *hated* anybody I slept with. I liked or loved every one. What's the point of sleeping with someone you hate?

 

[woollis2]

Re: Will you marry me?

Holy fuckin' shit! I can't believe you exist! Will you marry me!? I understand your situation, and you are right that some men are selfish, I was saying that judging by the posts women weren't interested in getting better at it. My experience and those of other men, ( the posts on this thread will attest to), have been mostly negative in regards to womens sexual performance. You however are the rare exception to the rule. Whoever is lucky enough to have you is the envy of 99% of the men out there. God bless you , you beautiful creature! You are the kind of women that we men are in desperate search of, you give me and every guy on this planet hope, YOUR THE SHIT!!!!!!!!

Thank you. I just believe that men should have what they want just like woman like what they want. BTW...when's the wedding date

 

[Lord_Suston]

I always try to satisfy my girl

But shit my neck is still sore from the last time
Actually it isn't really fun to have a partner who doesn't communicate on what they want, its like driving to a place without a map, either you get there by chance or you run out of gas trying...... and my tank only holds about 30 minutes worth..... So hopefully more women will have pride in their sexual skills and will rock my world .......

 

[jennifer BFL chick]

I like to lay there like a dead fish......then once in a while I will say harder bitch........its pretty fun

when i'm sucking him, I like to keep doing the same motion over and over again until he slaps me.......this too is pretty fun

 

[toga22]

There I'm done bitchin', prove me right and don't reply to this post if you're a female, stay self absorbed and worry about yourself some more

Hmmm...Well, since I am a female I have to say that I don't really think that your post is fair...

But speaking for myself, I would have to say that there is not going to be any "special recipe" out there to satisfy all men...

All men get turned on from different things and each one of them have their own list of different "favorites"... It is the woman's "job" to find that special combination to make a man purr...

And even though you might find hints or tips on a chat board, for myself, the only way you are truly going to find out these things is through expermenting and practice...

Besides...If you truly care about the person you are with, wouldn't you want to satisfy them completely...

~toga

 

[Grizzly]

I thought of another example of female apathy. Shaving/trimming. I shave my balls and keep my pubes perfectly manicured. Why? Not because I like to do it but because I like to have shit nice and neat to make the woman happy. Courtesy, you know. And, fuck, most of them don't even seem to notice. That's crazy. Ok, so maybe they don't care that much, but it's well documented and a girl would have to live in a bubble to not know that men LOVE really nicely trimmed/shaved pussies. How many keep themselves properly groomed? Not too fucking many. With the exception of 4 or 5 girls, my pubes have been shorter than all of the girls I've been with. That's fucking pathetic.

 

[nolin]

Re: Re: Will you marry me?

Thank you. I just believe that men should have what they want just like woman like what they want. BTW...when's the wedding date

How soon can you move to Michigan? Or where do you live?

 

[solidspine]

Mke this post a sticky.

 

[woollis2]

Re: Re: Re: Will you marry me?

How soon can you move to Michigan? Or where do you live?

I live in Iowa.

 

[Vortexx]

the game of Man & Women is a game of give and take, if it aint true love changes are high parties are not really sharing but just trying to get the best part of the pie.

Which is many times the case in an ordinary one night stand.

So my advice as a guy for others guys would be that in this case:

- Cindy99 (being the slut that she is) , is right in the sense that females are the "dealers" and man are the "junkies", so treat it like you are looking for a good dealer that won't scam you or rip you off, SPEND some time foreplay so you can judge beforehand if the female in question is a passive "gimme chocolat" slut or a slightly harder to get but more creative /rewarding women?

- a selveconscious male can be a "dealer" too. Most females crave for appreciation for their beauty and more important for their person. Remember "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" so you can decide to show this appreciation to them or NOT, how much and what you expect in return.


- Have some GHB + Meth !!! It has fantastic "social engineering" qualities to smoothtalk the hardest to get girls
- You Already feel fanfuckingtastic high from this combo so sex is no longer the END, but just the means to add just a few points to your high scale.


But nothing beats love where u can truly share and get more return on your investment than you could ever imagine...

 

[Cindy99]

yes, but its easy to get a reaction when one talks of supply and demand, etc.,

and we all know every man on this post would gladly walk out of their way to screw a good looking woman, even if he knew she was a dead fish in bed, men want it, women have it. men crave it, women dole it out. facts of life!!!

 

[kamae]

funny

You're right Cindy, men are in contol of demand, and women in control of supply. We demand pussy, and you supply it. Men are in control, ultimately. Women get fucked, men do the fucking.

haa haa lol

 

[woollis2]

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND NOT A FLAME

I sincerely cant believe that this thread is still alive. The fact that so many men that have posted here feel that woman are shitty in bed, just cracks me up.

Have any of you even stopped to realize that it may be you that is shitty in bed. Don't get me wrong, I have been with many women that were no where near as good as me, and so that couldn't even make me cum. However, I took those ladies as a challenge, and I decided that if I pleasured them more than they ever have had it in their entire life, then the sex would get better.

As a result, most of the women start begging for sex and they learn how to get better and understand what my hot buttons are etc. I have been with ladies that after I broke it off, they still wanted to have sex with me, WHY?, because I took the time to give them the best pleasure of their life. I made their eyes roll back in their head, whether or not she was doing it for me.

Bottom line is this, (IMO), men who bitch that women are no good in bed are more often than not a bunch of teenage boys, or men that are simply no good themselves. Most teenage boys think that they are so good in bed (I did when I was that age), but the truth is that you really suck. All they worry about is getting off and how good the women is, never stopping to realize that they might be the one that sucks ass. Most men, think they are the shit, but don't take the time to have really good foreplay, or take the time to communicate and find out what it is that makes the girl go made. Once you start doing this, women will be all over you, period.

Again, this is just my opinion and I am not saying that any of you that replied are this way, but I will say that before you say a women sucks in bed, take the time to understand her first and then give her the pleasure of her life.

As far as making this a sticky, I don't think so. Personally I am surprised that it has got as many responses that it has. However, bump it up all day long, but I am not going to make a post a sticky.

To all the ladies out there, I apologize that you have to see this kind of attitude from men, remember that it is not indicative of most men.

Originally posted by Woollis2
As far as us women being selfish...I believe men are selfish. Most men (whether or not the woman SUCKED as you're trying to state) a man gets off and that's it. Very few men try to please a woman.

Kronk--that is a very good post!!! I agree AND IMO, like I said before, there are many women out there that DO try to please a man. Not many men try pleasing a woman. But it happens on both sides also. If you want to make the best out of the sexual experience, you have to broaden your horizons....and I mean explore your significant others body and zones and vice versa.

 

[Ercole]

Good post, Kronk. I'm glad more guys aren't like some of the ones on this thread. Hatred and contempt are no basis for connecting with another human being, whether sexually or otherwise.

 

[nolin]

Sounds like a flame to me

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND NOT A FLAME

I sincerely cant believe that this thread is still alive. The fact that so many men that have posted here feel that woman are shitty in bed, just cracks me up.

Have any of you even stopped to realize that it may be you that is shitty in bed. Don't get me wrong, I have been with many women that were no where near as good as me, and so that couldn't even make me cum. However, I took those ladies as a challenge, and I decided that if I pleasured them more than they ever have had it in their entire life, then the sex would get better.

As a result, most of the women start begging for sex and they learn how to get better and understand what my hot buttons are etc. I have been with ladies that after I broke it off, they still wanted to have sex with me, WHY?, because I took the time to give them the best pleasure of their life. I made their eyes roll back in their head, whether or not she was doing it for me.

Bottom line is this, (IMO), men who bitch that women are no good in bed are more often than not a bunch of teenage boys, or men that are simply no good themselves. Most teenage boys think that they are so good in bed (I did when I was that age), but the truth is that you really suck. All they worry about is getting off and how good the women is, never stopping to realize that they might be the one that sucks ass. Most men, think they are the shit, but don't take the time to have really good foreplay, or take the time to communicate and find out what it is that makes the girl go made. Once you start doing this, women will be all over you, period.

Again, this is just my opinion and I am not saying that any of you that replied are this way, but I will say that before you say a women sucks in bed, take the time to understand her first and then give her the pleasure of her life.

As far as making this a sticky, I don't think so. Personally I am surprised that it has got as many responses that it has. However, bump it up all day long, but I am not going to make a post a sticky.

To all the ladies out there, I apologize that you have to see this kind of attitude from men, remember that it is not indicative of most men.

Well Kronk I'm sorry to hear that you won't sticky this. Obviously you are completely out of touch with what many men feel. Especailly a good lot on this site. Since I started the thread I will first let you know that I am not a teenager. Seconldy I have done intense study of the female anatomy and there is not one women I have ever been intimate with that did not have an excellent orgasm. As far as mens performance it is no secret that many men are inept in terms of sexual performance, but according to the posts on this site a good many WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, my beef was that I didn't see alot of women posting to ask how they could improve! The reason for the angry tone is frustration, anger is usually a secondary emotional response to uncontrollable stimulus. I personally have experienced a lot of incosiderate and inept women, who by the way did not take kindly to suggestions. Your response as well as others only makes my point stronger. I aslo think this is another example that our society has two standards of accountabilty, one for men and another for women. We don' have a problem blaming men for all our problems just look at talk shows, it's always about what pieces of shit men are and we always are to blame. But when a women does something wrong we make excuses for her, coddle her, Mary Kay Laterno ring a bell? If it was a 36 year old man that had sex with a 12 year old girl he'd be strung up. But Miss Laterno had " Bi polar disorder ", Bull shit!

You having to apologize to women because they had " To see this attitude from men " shows how far we as a society have to go with true equality. Why would you want to shelter women from a harsh reality? Women are not children, they don't need to be sheltered from reality, I find it insulting that you think you need to protect them as if they're incapable of coping with some unpleasant attitudes.

In closing, the attitude on this thread IS indicative of many mens feelings. In spite of the many responses by other men who feel what I feel you won't make it a sticky, I guess you only sticky what you agree with and that is IMO a poor example of a MOD. But who cares what I or the majority of men think as long as you can censor realtiy for women.

 

[pigginsly]

Yeah, fuck all the bullshit...
Lets get down and dirty.....
I'm looking for a woman that wants and knows how to fuck....

 

[nolin]

Re: Re: Sounds like a flame to me

i cant respond to your post, as you were talking to kronk but i will say this, this area of Elite is for nasty sexual talk, talking dirty and things of that nature....it is meant to be here to stimulate and entertain....it would be a silly idea to take a post like this and turn it into a sticky.

as far as the men that have posted in response...i understand your point...however...i personally have recieved prolly a dozen PMs to the opposite, from both men and women....

DONT misunderstand what kronk or i said...........that is our opinions, not yours. we respect yours...so respects ours.....as between the sheets mods we are not deleting your post or anything.....so relax big fella........bump this post daily if that is what you feel that you need to do....not sure what the deal is with the sticky thing.....but just chill...you have your opinion...so keep posting it.....

Hey Kronkette, thanks for your thoughts. I think if this conversation leads to intelligent discourse and improves the sex lives of some members it's great entertainment! I am also surprised at the responses, some a bit more crude than my taste but hey, those are probably done more in fun than anything. You do make a good point that this isn't really a discussion board for social issues.....it's kind of grown legs. I admit it seems to be heading that way, I just wanted to vent that day and it really struck accord with a lot of men.

I think you and Kronk are cool,( not that you care) that's why I was really surprised at your responses. The sticky thing has to do with a thread that isn't an issue brought up all the time, something different. Everyday on this board were going to get polls about how big your dick is, do you like pussy blah blah and since this thread said something that most men are afraid to say and I think most women aren't aware of, it warranted being seen a lot, via a sticky. Some of what has been said is inflamatory, but I think there is truth and validity in it. I think we all have heard over and over and over about "what a girl wants, what a girl needs" and how men " just don't get it". I thought it was high time to give the opposing viewpoint. It was dissapointing to me that the people with the power and clout, (You and Kronk) refused to give validity to this viewpoint even by not commenting if necessary. Instead Kronk went out of his way to not only disagree,but to ignore members request to be heard by saying these views aren't worthy of a sticky and apologizing to the ladies. Come on, true empowerment comes with respect, and respecting women IMO is to not apologize for saying things they don't want to hear.

 

[prime22]

I was SOOOOOOOOOO glad to run across this thread. Here is a man who has FINALLY brought out to the public what I have been saying for the last few years. Do I think that some men are slefish? Yes. So are some women. I am also tired of society blamming all men for the problems between men/women relationships. I remember reading this story about how women are tired of men calling other women b*tches and h*es. I said to myself," As soon as those women stop acting like b*tches and h*es". Of course that may never happen but I think too many women don't see the OTHER half of the problem. Men call women those names because there are women who truly are those things. Instead of you women trying to beat men down about that, why don't you talk to your sisters and friends and tell them they need to stop acting like the names that they are called? Just an idea. Maybe it might make a difference.

 

[pigginsly]

I forget who said it , but..
" Life ain't nothing but bitches and money..."
If you don't like the work, get out of the kitchen...
Go get a dog or something...
Bulldogs are nice....
Play the game playa'!!!
Its more fun that way...

 

[Temple]

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND NOT A FLAME

I sincerely cant believe that this thread is still alive. The fact that so many men that have posted here feel that woman are shitty in bed, just cracks me up.

Have any of you even stopped to realize that it may be you that is shitty in bed. Don't get me wrong, I have been with many women that were no where near as good as me, and so that couldn't even make me cum. However, I took those ladies as a challenge, and I decided that if I pleasured them more than they ever have had it in their entire life, then the sex would get better.

As a result, most of the women start begging for sex and they learn how to get better and understand what my hot buttons are etc. I have been with ladies that after I broke it off, they still wanted to have sex with me, WHY?, because I took the time to give them the best pleasure of their life. I made their eyes roll back in their head, whether or not she was doing it for me.

Bottom line is this, (IMO), men who bitch that women are no good in bed are more often than not a bunch of teenage boys, or men that are simply no good themselves. Most teenage boys think that they are so good in bed (I did when I was that age), but the truth is that you really suck. All they worry about is getting off and how good the women is, never stopping to realize that they might be the one that sucks ass. Most men, think they are the shit, but don't take the time to have really good foreplay, or take the time to communicate and find out what it is that makes the girl go made. Once you start doing this, women will be all over you, period.

Again, this is just my opinion and I am not saying that any of you that replied are this way, but I will say that before you say a women sucks in bed, take the time to understand her first and then give her the pleasure of her life.

As far as making this a sticky, I don't think so. Personally I am surprised that it has got as many responses that it has. However, bump it up all day long, but I am not going to make a post a sticky.

To all the ladies out there, I apologize that you have to see this kind of attitude from men, remember that it is not indicative of most men.

Kronk - that is EXACTLY what my husband said when he read this thread. I don't post much over here but this board has created many interesting conversations at our house

 

[wlibbe]

Nolin~

You must not be with the right women if only one has ever made you cum from a blow job. That is just my opinion. Most women are not good at pleasing men because they are too damn scared and insecure to try new things and really focus on the man for a change. It is just as fulfilling for me to make a man cum as it is for me to. Just my 2 cents. I hope that you find a woman who can please you.

 

[Ercole]

This thread should titled: SOUR GRAPES. Why are these guys so angry at women? Probable reasons:

1. The hotties they want aren't interested in their sorry asses.

2. They're so desperate they sleep with crazy bitches.

Both problems have simple cures:

1. Work on yourself -- get educated, get a sense of humor, stop blaming women for your own shortcomings. Above all, treat women fairly and with respect, the same way you want them to treat you. We all get burned sometimes by a jerk or a jerkette, but you'll minimize your burnings this way.

2. Crazy bitches (just like the male version, crazy bastards) usually have a big red flashing sign on their foreheads: TROUBLE. No matter how horny you are, stay away!

Look how much trouble Robert Blake could have saved himself (not to mention life imprisonment) if he'd kept his dick in his pants when he met Bonnie TROUBLE Bakkely.

 

[nolin]

That's funny

This thread should titled: SOUR GRAPES. Why are these guys so angry at women? Probable reasons:

1. The hotties they want aren't interested in their sorry asses.

2. They're so desperate they sleep with crazy bitches.

Both problems have simple cures:

1. Work on yourself -- get educated, get a sense of humor, stop blaming women for your own shortcomings. Above all, treat women fairly and with respect, the same way you want them to treat you. We all get burned sometimes by a jerk or a jerkette, but you'll minimize your burnings this way.

2. Crazy bitches (just like the male version, crazy bastards) usually have a big red flashing sign on their foreheads: TROUBLE. No matter how horny you are, stay away!

Look how much trouble Robert Blake could have saved himself (not to mention life imprisonment) if he'd kept his dick in his pants when he met Bonnie TROUBLE Bakkely.

I must admit that's funny But don't forget sometimes those crazy ones are great at disguising themselves at first! One quick question, I think I have responded thoughtfully and in a well spoken manner. However no one has really commented on the coddling women thing, I was wondering your thoughts on that point since you seem like an intelligent individual although we have opposing views.

 

[Ercole]

Cure #3: Read Kronk's post over again.

Men who are good in bed simply don't go around complaining about women who aren't. They take responsibliity for their own experience.

If a woman's off-base, they gently teach her how to do stuff the way they like it.

The best way to attract a woman who's terrific in bed is to be terrific yourself. If you're one of those slam-bam kids with no understanding of foreplay or what your woman is feeling, she's going to feel like a hole in the ground because she's waiting patiently for you to come so she can do something more interesting, like checking what's on TV.

If she's just lying there -- hello, dude! It's because YOU AREN'T TURNING HER ON. So figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it. When a man takes the time and trouble to turn a woman on, trust me, she won't just lie there. She'll start flashing and ringing like a pinball machine delivering the big jackpot.

(Sorry to compare you to a machine, ladies. I couldn't think of a better metaphor ...)

 

[prime22]

This thread should titled: SOUR GRAPES. Why are these guys so angry at women? Probable reasons:

1. The hotties they want aren't interested in their sorry asses.

2. They're so desperate they sleep with crazy bitches.

Both problems have simple cures:

1. Work on yourself -- get educated, get a sense of humor, stop blaming women for your own shortcomings. Above all, treat women fairly and with respect, the same way you want them to treat you. We all get burned sometimes by a jerk or a jerkette, but you'll minimize your burnings this way.

2. Crazy bitches (just like the male version, crazy bastards) usually have a big red flashing sign on their foreheads: TROUBLE. No matter how horny you are, stay away!

Look how much trouble Robert Blake could have saved himself (not to mention life imprisonment) if he'd kept his dick in his pants when he met Bonnie TROUBLE Bakkely.

And here we are with another classic example of the blame being placed on MEN and not so much on the WOMEN. LEt's be honest people, there are just too many women in the world with problems. They are not ALL crazy but there are alot of them who are just not seeing that they are also a reason for these problems between men and women.

Now to the person who replied earlier about how sex starts for a woman. This is the part I found to be funny......

"most men (boys) don't take the time to make a woman feel good..they think that sticking in and humping away is what its all about"....

Do you know how many WOMEN think that all there is to sexing a man is for them to bounce up and down or just lay there? My goodness I don't think your seeing the point here...

In this world it has always been about the men pleasing the women and that's it. You always hear about men trying to find ways to make the women happy in bed. Now how many times do you find women trying to find out how to please men? Not as often I will admit. Or here is my favorite one though......

"we usually have to deal with a guy who is just there to get there rocks off and has no clue to what he is doing. hell we could be a hole in the floor and as long as it feels good to him...he doesn't care...we just have the little extras of having tits....by this time us girls learn that there is more to sex than just penetration....hmmm, we learn that if it is done right..it feels good...but the other sex hasn't learned this yet."

What is the LACK of COMMUNICATION????!!! Why are we so scared in this world to talk to someone and let them know that they are not doing the job? Yeah it hurts to hear the truth but guess what? When you know what the real deal is then you can go on to become better and then the fun really starts. Most women I run across don't really know what they like in bed. They are still in the early stages of sexual pleasure. I think it's best to let your partner know what the deal is and get them to understand that it can be better but the two of you are going to have to work on that together. If he/she doesn't want to listen then you need to find a new bedroom buddy because it is not going to work. This is just my honest opinion.

 

[Ercole]

Nolin, I agree with you that the age-old "battle of the sexes" has become lop-sided since the 1960s. Opposing the foolish idea that men are superior, too many young women have bought into the equally foolish feminist notion that women are superior.

I don't know why so many men go along with all the insults thrown at our sex -- you can't turn on the TV without getting the idea that all men are brainless, brutal sex-crazed beasts while all women are sensitive, peaceful, fair-minded saints.

Insecure women seem compelled to believe such nonsense to shore up their self-esteem, while others simply hate men because some guy has burned them. (Just like some guys in this thread have decided to hate all women because one or two ladies burned them.)

I think men are basically being insincere and patronizing when they go along with this female chauvenism. Shits come in male and female varieties, in about equal numbers, I would say.

The idea that women are so fair and peaceloving is a laugh when you look at history -- some of the bloodiest, most violent rulers have been women. More recently, Margaret Thatcher wasn't exactly a peacenik, if you recall.

If you don't know history, check out a woman fighting her ex-husband for custody of their children. You'll see just how "fair and peaceful" ladies can be. Even in nature, there is nothing more dangerous than an enraged mother bear.

I wish we could get back to a more equal view of the sexes. Lots of men act shitty, but so do lots of women. The shittiness is sometimes expressed differently ... women, usually smaller and weaker than men, use mind games, lying, and manipulation, while a male jerk often relies on his fists.

Have you ever seen a movie where a guy gets kicked in the balls, and all the women in the theatre laugh? I think that's an example of the imbalance you're talking about. How many men would laugh if a woman on the screen got her pussy slugged with a hammer? Only the filthiest goons, probably.

If we all just respected each other, men and women, none of this would matter ...

 

[prime22]

Of course that is the hard part. We don't respect one another at all times. I remember when I used to buy into the crap about women being so peacful and pure...then I started dating and I began to see just how wrong that view could be.....LOL.

 

[prime22]

I do agree that sex for women is not a pretty thing when they first start but this is something I have always found amusing.....

I don't think anybody sees that there is also an amount of pressure on men when they first start. Now I know that a lot of men are gonna look at this reply like "WTF are you talking about" but hear me out for a minute.

It is always funny to me how roles in sex are played out. If your a woman who has never had sex before then you are looked at as a godess and precious jewel to be taken as a prize before any other man can. If your a man who has never had sex you are looked upon as a lump of coal that has yet to have been taken to that level of perfection known as a diamond. The funny part is that most men want a virgin woman but most women DON'T want a virgin man. I can remember being a teenager(like it was THAT long ago...lol) and having my uncle telling me to lie to women about my sexual experiences. My brother even told me the same crap. Never let a woman know that your a virgin because then your chances with her are shot to hell. I took that advice with a grain of salt. I did follow it after a while but I still kept wondering to myself...how in the hell am I gonna get her to believe that I'm not a virgin when I don't know enough about sex to begin with. As a result I had to play it by ear. Of course I did run across a woman who knew I was one but none the less she was understanding in the situation and after enough time, I was able to find out what pleased her and what didn't. This is why I feel that these games that people play are just too stupid in the long run. Everyone wants to get over on everyone else and in the end you hurt nobody but yourself. I am glad that I found a woman who was understanding enough to know that just because I was a virgin didn't mean I was completely useless in the bed.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is that everytime we think things are just horrible for one side, it tends to be the same for the other. Maybe not in the same way but none the less it's not any easier. Do I feel bad for women, yes I do. However I don't think we should over look the fact that men have their own challenges and obstacles as well and it goes a long way to have someone who can be a true friend and be understanding. If men and women could look beyond all the bull shit with one another then maybe we could all just stop having this case of "sour grapes" and move on with something more important.

 

[nolin]

Wow!

Nolin, I agree with you that the age-old "battle of the sexes" has become lop-sided since the 1960s. Opposing the foolish idea that men are superior, too many young women have bought into the equally foolish feminist notion that women are superior.

I don't know why so many men go along with all the insults thrown at our sex -- you can't turn on the TV without getting the idea that all men are brainless, brutal sex-crazed beasts while all women are sensitive, peaceful, fair-minded saints.

Insecure women seem compelled to believe such nonsense to shore up their self-esteem, while others simply hate men because some guy has burned them. (Just like some guys in this thread have decided to hate all women because one or two ladies burned them.)

I think men are basically being insincere and patronizing when they go along with this female chauvenism. Shits come in male and female varieties, in about equal numbers, I would say.

The idea that women are so fair and peaceloving is a laugh when you look at history -- some of the bloodiest, most violent rulers have been women. More recently, Margaret Thatcher wasn't exactly a peacenik, if you recall.

If you don't know history, check out a woman fighting her ex-husband for custody of their children. You'll see just how "fair and peaceful" ladies can be. Even in nature, there is nothing more dangerous than an enraged mother bear.

I wish we could get back to a more equal view of the sexes. Lots of men act shitty, but so do lots of women. The shittiness is sometimes expressed differently ... women, usually smaller and weaker than men, use mind games, lying, and manipulation, while a male jerk often relies on his fists.

Have you ever seen a movie where a guy gets kicked in the balls, and all the women in the theatre laugh? I think that's an example of the imbalance you're talking about. How many men would laugh if a woman on the screen got her pussy slugged with a hammer? Only the filthiest goons, probably.

If we all just respected each other, men and women, none of this would matter ...

Wow, that was......a masterpiece! I didn't think I could say anything to expound upon that but, I can! I think your approach of taking responsibilty for the situation is indeed a healthy one, It's true that it's easier to change your behavior than some one elses. I have tried in many cases to help along some one, in one instance I had a girlfriend who had been molested as a child, I tried everything I could to convince her to go to therapy, but she wouldn't. She just didn't want to relive the pain. Cosequently she had a lot of sexual hang ups, I was very understanding and I tried to help her but she chose instead to drink herself into oblivion every weekend. I guess what I'm getting at is I think I'm getting tired of feeling responsible for another persons sexual pleasure. I have had to literally teach a lot of women I've been with how to have an orgasm, it would be nice if more women were in touch with their bodies and sexuality. I think generally men are more open and expressive about sex, and women more in touch with emotions, we can help each other in those areas but often when someone wants to be heard they have to scream to get attention. I think that's what the anger on this thread has been about. In the 60's and early 70's women did a lot of radical things to bring attention to inequality, many men and women wished these feminists would stop whining and shut up. But they didn't and things changed, I think that at first men are going to express anger , and then find resolution, this thread has been a great example. First anger, then backlash, then intelligent resolution. Hopefully it's a good sign that the sexes will again reach an equilibrium!

 

[TEXgrl]

i don't really think it is a matter of men or women in general not being any good or bad. i think it is a matter of how selfish the person as a whole is and doesn't have anything to do with their sex. i think you get back what you put into it. i also think maturity lends a big hand in things. my husband has gotton better and better with age.

 

[wyst]

Most of the women I've slept with are better in bed than most of the men. Granted, it's a smallish sample size, but that's what I've found. The men were generally willing to learn, though, and I've really not had any complaints about either sex. It's aaaaaaalllll good.

Wyst

 

[Ercole]

i also think maturity lends a big hand in things. my husband has gotten better and better with age. [/B]

That's the cool thing about marriage or another long-term relationship. You have time to teach each other how to do it right. If you "train" your spouse or partner right, no one else will ever be able to satisfy you the way they can.

My current relationship's only nine months old. I am CRAZY in love, but the sex is frankly far from the best I've had. But I'm taking responsibility for fixing the problem. You can't do it all at once:

"No no NO! You're doing it all wrong!"

That will destroy a person's self-confidence. Slowly, gradually lead them towards where you'd like them to be. And hopefully, they're doing the same with you.

One thing I can recommend: when they do it exactly right, make plenty of noise, so they KNOW they've hit the spot.

"OH BABY! OH OH OH! THAT'S INCREDIBLE! YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME CUM!!!"

Don't keep it to yourself, or they'll never know what they did right and did wrong. And never openly let them know they aren't the best, or they'll feel like a failure and that will kill their interest in sex.

So if you love her, tell her she's the best on the planet on Day One ... then gradually, generously work with her until she IS the best. And encourage her to teach *you* what she likes and how she likes it. It's not always easy, but it's worth the effort.

(Excuse the pronouns ... they and them. I'm just trying to make this stuff more universal, but love and sex are pretty much the same no matter what team you play for.)

 

[The_Eviscerator]

I have been with a few women (60 or 70 I lost count). I can count on my fingers the ones that could actually fuck worth a damn. I have been with the same woman for the past 3 years and we never got tired of fucking each other (of course we were both sluts prior to our relationship and we knew what we liked and what to do). Well, 6 months ago we broke up due to some bullshit. We have been apart and I can honestly say that the 7 chicks I have been with, only one was truly fun. The bad thing is that she was married (pending divorce). I am actually considering going back to my ex. I figure I can work it out with her, because the sex never suffered.

I tell you, when you find that one that you can fuck more than 4 times without looking at your watch to see if World's Strongest Man or WWF Raw is on, you gotta hold on to her.

 

[pigginsly]

Damn you people can write some shit...
Live and let live...
All of it is good, imagine a world having all that you want...
What would you strive for?????
Good points, bad points......
Simutaneously...
Here we go!!!!

 

[Delinquent]

That's the cool thing about marriage or another long-term relationship. You have time to teach each other how to do it right. If you "train" your spouse or partner right, no one else will ever be able to satisfy you the way they can.

My current relationship's only nine months old. I am CRAZY in love, but the sex is frankly far from the best I've had. But I'm taking responsibility for fixing the problem. You can't do it all at once:

"No no NO! You're doing it all wrong!"

That will destroy a person's self-confidence. Slowly, gradually lead them towards where you'd like them to be. And hopefully, they're doing the same with you.

One thing I can recommend: when they do it exactly right, make plenty of noise, so they KNOW they've hit the spot.

"OH BABY! OH OH OH! THAT'S INCREDIBLE! YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME CUM!!!"

Don't keep it to yourself, or they'll never know what they did right and did wrong. And never openly let them know they aren't the best, or they'll feel like a failure and that will kill their interest in sex.

So if you love her, tell her she's the best on the planet on Day One ... then gradually, generously work with her until she IS the best. And encourage her to teach *you* what she likes and how she likes it. It's not always easy, but it's worth the effort.

(Excuse the pronouns ... they and them. I'm just trying to make this stuff more universal, but love and sex are pretty much the same no matter what team you play for.)

I was about to post the same thing. If you're committed to someone it's much easier to learn one anothers "spots". My current girl and future wife will often beg me to stop after about 30 minutes b/c she take it anymore. I'm not trying to brag but this is what happens after you learn your other halfs most sensitive spots.

 

[Kahn]

Mine ain't most. She's awesome. Love me long time.

 

[-SD-]

I've dumped many women & some were very sexy (looking) but, they weren't wortha damn in bed. Sure we'll pick up damn near anything decent if the situation is right but, doesn't mean we'll come back for more. You ladies are just another notch in our belt. We do it so we can say "yeah I fuct her". Means absolutely nothing to us. Chances are, unless you are totally hot & very good in bed, when we pick you up at a bar, we don't want to cuddle, we don't want to talk or have breakfast, we want your ass out of our house when the deed is done. You (easy women as a whole), are nothing more than a cum dumpster. So if you want to stand out among the keepers & get a star next to your name in the black book you better get your shit together. Nobody wants a pussy they can stick their entire fist in. So untill you learn to exercise that shit & tighten it up, better get used to having your hair pulled & taking it in the ass! & if you can't fuck you damn well better swallow!

Fuck, thats funny

 

[paradox]

we can snap our fingers, or flirt for 5 minutes, or post a provocative thread on a silly website, and we'll have 50 offers for sex in 10 minutes -

What are you talking about? Your the one who walked up to my car window when I was at that redlight on the south side of town. I didnt have to demand anything. You demanded the money for that good time we had in the back seat. j/k

 

[Trust Must Be Earned]

Not all women

Not all women are shitty in bed...just the straight bitches that can't make their mind up...I love women....as many as possible!!!
But if you don't know how to find the G-Spot a woman is worthless...I know I am a woman and I think men suck in bed...I tried sex with a guy once...it was nasty...then a found a good woman...and bingo I knew what I wanted... Guys find a Latin woman...they are wild...give them few drinks and wow they do weird shit in bed...Plus they have want to do it everywhere...they never stop...

 

[nolin]

HMMMM....

That's interesting, but maybe the Latino women you have experienced were only like that with other women. Or have you found through male friends that they are this way? I'm wondering because a few women either bi or lesbians have mentioned that the women they have been with we're good in bed. My argument is this: if a women is open enough to be bi curious or if she's a lesbian chances are she's more in touch with her sexuality than 90% of straight women. I primarily was talking about straight women in my previous comments, most are very reserved and are too afraid to show a guy their crazy side because they think you'll label them a slut. It's sad! By the way I have had a few experiences with bi women and even one lesbian! She sucked a mean dick! I guess all that toungue work helped!She also said I was one of the best muff divers she ever had, but she wouldn't take the penis, oh well, maybe in a future encounter!

 

[solidspine]

i'm not just talking about me - i mean women in general. men are in control of "demand" and women are in control of "supply" - that's just the way it is. any decent looking woman can walk into any bar, restaurant, business situation, etc., and get laid if she wants to. guys have to work for it - its just the way it is!!!

The woman speaks the truth!

 

[rockn2dmax]

OK.... I started reading this, but didn't make it past page 2 before I got so frustrated I had to post!

Everything I've read so far is correct... Females don't seem to care as much as males do about being good in bed... WHY????

b/c guys can always get off, but girls can't...

BUT, girls use this fucking logic to rate what's good and bad... They figure if I get off, their job is done, and they must have done it well...

I can't complain too much, b/c my girlfriend is fucking awsome in bed... but maybe she had to be in order to keep me...

In regards to CHEATING... I don't know if I'd cheat on her if she sucked in bed... but I'd probably just dumb her...

I fucked so many girls before who sucked... one girl gave me a blow job w/ her fucking teeth... (that didn't last too long...)

she also refused to be on top, and only wanted sex w/ me on top... she didn't even want doggy.... about 2 min in, I got so pissed I just tried to cum so I could get it over with... She was hot, but thought that I was there to only please her... not a 2 way road... (god if I could go back now, I'd just flip her over and fuck her hard as hell in her ass!!! I'm sure that would have woke her up!)

Any guy who says they haven't had a girl like this, either hasn't had enough sex, or is just fucking gay!

Girls, if you can't suck a dick, you ain't worth shiT!!!

 

[rockn2dmax]

wow... I was talking like a sailor in that last post... sorry

 

[lilchit]

most women probably ARE awful in the sack. ill give you fellas that. but cant you estimate how good theyll be before you take them home?

there are plenty of great looking, hard bodied men who are so arrogant, they think theyre doing you a favor just by being in the room. but there are even more okay looking, nice bodied men who are absolute tigers in the sack.

i think you can sense the difference in attitude before youve wasted your time. its the difference between men who are into themselves, and men who are into sex.

well, fellas?

 

[woollis2]

[
As far as us women being selfish...I believe men are selfish. Most men (whether or not the woman SUCKED as you're trying to state) a man gets off and that's it. Very few men try to please a woman. I work my ass off to do what he likes and how he likes, whether it be sucking his dick, fucking, or whatever just so he will enjoy himself. I would rather please a man than have a man please me (don't get me wrong, I LOVE it when a man tries to please me).

. [/B]

Okay ladies and gentlemen.....I have found a man who is NOT selfish. OMG......it's like SOOOO amazing. I can't explain it other than it's phenomenal. OMG.....he does things to me that no man has ever done to me. He is the only man that has ever found my G-spot, he is the only man that has made my legs shake when he went down on me. It's like fucking awesome.

I would just like to give a FUCKING HELL YEAH!

I thought I lost my sex drive. It must have just been the men I've been with. My man is absolutely amazing.

 

[woollis2]

OK.... I started reading this, but didn't make it past page 2 before I got so frustrated I had to post!

Everything I've read so far is correct... Females don't seem to care as much as males do about being good in bed... WHY????

b/c guys can always get off, but girls can't...

BUT, girls use this fucking logic to rate what's good and bad... They figure if I get off, their job is done, and they must have done it well...

I can't complain too much, b/c my girlfriend is fucking awsome in bed... but maybe she had to be in order to keep me...

In regards to CHEATING... I don't know if I'd cheat on her if she sucked in bed... but I'd probably just dumb her...

I fucked so many girls before who sucked... one girl gave me a blow job w/ her fucking teeth... (that didn't last too long...)

she also refused to be on top, and only wanted sex w/ me on top... she didn't even want doggy.... about 2 min in, I got so pissed I just tried to cum so I could get it over with... She was hot, but thought that I was there to only please her... not a 2 way road... (god if I could go back now, I'd just flip her over and fuck her hard as hell in her ass!!! I'm sure that would have woke her up!)

Any guy who says they haven't had a girl like this, either hasn't had enough sex, or is just fucking gay!

Girls, if you can't suck a dick, you ain't worth shiT!!!

WOW...so much hatred. I feel sorry for you man. I really do. Sex is suppose to be fun for both people. Not just for one.

 

[fiatconspiracy]

bump this mother

 

[prime22]

Bump

 

[HammerNail]

The Fall of MAN

Wow,

I think this thread is officially longer than "War and Peace".......Many good thoughts offered here......Some dysfunctional ones as well....But the issue does have merit.......

The idea that a Man must always please a Women in bed is just the tip of the Iceberg.....It really is indicative of a much larger social issue......Liberation.......The word in itself implies rebellion....in this case against the natural order......I am not pointing fingers here I don't blame women for wanting more rights in this modern social strata in which we live.....It was bound to happen....that’s obviously why it did.....But every time u mess with the natural order you inherit man made problems......Hence this profoundly long age old argument….Men vs. Women……So how did this mess set started……?

In the days of old Men, through there God given instincts were sworn to Protect and Provide for there Women and there families against a cruel natural world where human life itself was constantly on the verge of extinction……This was a noble sacrifice….A Woman needed a man to protect her and provision for the family that they would make together, needless to say Women respected Men for there abilities….and freely gave themselves to there Men in gratitude. This is the way God intended it to be….It’s what I call natural equality…..…..The rewards in such a harsh reality was that the Man not the Women were the authority, and all responsibility fell on a Mans shoulders to oversee the well being of his Wife and siblings…..This naturally gave Men all the rights in the outward world in which they built. Women stayed imbedded in there communities and families caring for the children this was there domain. The men left the nest each day to fetch food and or war against invaders who might other wise claim or destroy there land, women and children …….

Our human reality is a progressive one…..constantly refining our lives and further removing ourselves form the animal world from which we came, we embarked on a quest for a utopian world. We continued to design highly complex societies in which law and order would prevail in an attempt to Protect the society itself and it’s members……As the social arena evolved into being, Men were no longer needed to build a home , protect the land it was on and yield it’s harvest. These basic life necessities where now provided by the social Mecca WE had created……In essence we done put ourselves out of a job!….. as a result we assumed new less potent roles. Many problems arose for the new breed of men which followed. Now lost in this modern social strata looking to redefine manhood itself……hence the invention of Team Sports, and modern body building which are just some of the vehicles in which healthy men seek to display there virility and feel rewarded as they once did feeding there families……Still another breed of men choose a more unhealthy means to express there manliness….hence Street Gangs, Rock Stars, Porn addicts, Womanizers and the like……

While Women has endured a steady rise to power Men have been socially castrated……And no one seems to care …..Women are not privy to a Mans reality, his suffering and loss. This is because Men have not exhibited the self awareness needed to get the message out…..self awareness is by definition a feminine trait that Men in the past have had little need for….. But as the hammer of time forges on Men are now coming into there own in this new era and are learning to express themselves……The presence of this thread is a prime example of Man’s awareness of his dissatisfaction with the inequalities which now exist between Men and Women……As time goes on we can only hope that there will be a natural solution to all the power struggles that exist between the sexes….Perhaps our Children will show us the way……but as far as I can tell as long as Women don’t need a Man to live ….and Men continue to be dependant on Women for sexual satisfaction Men will always be at the beck and call of a Women……Just remember ….it was not always this way, there was a time when Women respected and needed Men just to live……and now the table has turned…..and the Women are in power…..only pointing to a need for Men to become sexually liberated…… It is hard for me to conceive a sexually repressed Christian based world moving in that direction…..But I see big changes on the horizon for Men and there roles in society sexually……Already the number of Homosexuals in our society has risen to astounding numbers…..and I am sure the number of closet Bi Sexual and Homosexual Men is probably 20 X that…….If Women keep pushing the envelope with there power over Men sexually they’ll simply have to fight amongst themselves for the few Men willing to be in Heterosexual relationships……Nature has a way of dealing with shifts in power……So like the old saying goes …"Be careful of what you ask for in life…..You just might get it”………….and then have to pray for its removal!

 

[nolin]

Wow that was one helluva monologue! I loved it! I just hope some women read it and our society wakes up to see the inequality that now exists for men in relationships. Unfortunately we haven't got to the point where we are comfortable portraying men as needing protection or as being oppressed in any way. Until that happens it will continue to be a society designed to give Women and minorities all the choices and men 2 choices- work or go to prison! That's our plight and I hope I see it change in our lifetime

 

[prime22]

That was some interesting reading. I just copied it and emailed it to some of the women I hang out with. I wonder what they'll say when they read it?

 

[BronzedGoddess]

The only time I've ever been a dead lay in bed is when I was with a guy that had a problem in the stamina department. As soon as I'd move my hips and get going he'd cum. I was like WTF? So I'd lay still to make things last longer, but he'd still cum in 2 minutes. He was so damn fine, It was a shame.

One of my problems with men is, if a woman is really good in bed and really great at giving felatio y'all run back and tell your boys. Then we have 2 or 3 guys trying to get with us on the sly (some friends huh?) I guess it could be taken as a compliment .....in a strange sorta way.

 

[vinylgroover]

The only time I've ever been a dead lay in bed is when I was with a guy that had a problem in the stamina department. As soon as I'd move my hips and get going he'd cum. I was like WTF? So I'd lay still to make things last longer, but he'd still cum in 2 minutes. He was so damn fine, It was a shame.

One of my problems with men is, if a woman is really good in bed and really great at giving felatio y'all run back and tell your boys. Then we have 2 or 3 guys trying to get with us on the sly (some friends huh?) I guess it could be taken as a compliment .....in a strange sorta way.

Guys that fuck and tell are not real men. That's childish shit.

With regard to cumming in two minutes, i cum alot but i always get back up. Did he not have more than i load in him?

 

[DeezGunz]

Nolin, I am too lazy to read your entire post but from reading the title of your post I can give you one simple solution to your problem. You are gay.

 

[Charvelle]

but it's well documented and a girl would have to live in a bubble to not know that men LOVE really nicely trimmed/shaved pussies. How many keep themselves properly groomed? Not too fucking many. With the exception of 4 or 5 girls, my pubes have been shorter than all of the girls I've been with. That's fucking pathetic.

I would probably like some of your leftovers bro. I happen to like a girl with nice full, soft sexy pubic hair...it smells so good after
some hot, sweaty, cum soaked sex !! But I know, I'm the small
majority, very small majority

 

[Charvelle]

As soon as I'd move my hips and get going he'd cum.

This is too good of a visual w/your avatar

 

[Charvelle]

I am agreeing with Kronk on this one though. I think there is no emphasis on a girl or guy being bad or not good enough or whatever. It's fucking sex....I never ever use to worry about sex
being good or bad when I first met someone or if we hit it a time
or 2 and it wasn't mind blowing YET. If someone sucks as a partner in bed for you, jesus christ, teach them how to fuck you
good and whatever else you want. I tell everyone, if she doesn't
know how to have good sex, easy enough, I will teach her....ANYONE can be good in bed, if they are liking each other and playing together. If you can't teach each other mind blowing
sex, than it is just a hopeless case for both of you, and move on.
Now to expect someone to give you a good fuck on 1st time is asking for alot, it takes some time to hit it with each other just right and both be going crazy. It is RARE to go from day 1 knowing each other right on, and if you get it, you better well not
let it go. But in end, ANY partners can have good, mind blowing sex with each other, it takes some time to learn it from one another. It's not calculus.

 

[BronzedGoddess]

Guys that fuck and tell are not real men. That's childish shit.

With regard to cumming in two minutes, i cum alot but i always get back up. Did he not have more than i load in him?

Yeah you are right abou it being childish, but I've had it happen a few times and it's so uncomfortable.

As far as the situation with "minute man", once he came it was OVER! He'd go limp and stay that way. I think he had a problem. Even with a condom it would last less than 2-3 minutes. Frustrating to say the least......

Thanks Charvelle, maybe I can get one of those avatars that move!!!

 

[WIDELAT]

I CAN GET PUSSY ANYTIME I WANT I DON'T HAVE TO WORK FOR IT.

 

[nolin]

You're a Fucking Idiot

Nolin, I am too lazy to read your entire post but from reading the title of your post I can give you one simple solution to your problem. You are gay.

Ok, you have 44 posts and you we're to lazy to read? Maybe your just so fucking stupid you couldn't understand half the terminology used in this thread! It's cretins like you that make this world a shittier place. As far as the gay thing goes......No I'm not gay, maybe you we're hoping but sorry, strictly seafood here. I suggest you take up hooked on phonics so you can learn to read, better yet, why don't you go shoot yourself in the fucking head and make this planet have one less useless idiot.

 

[Haz]

I think people (both men and women) in general are shitty in bed. That is because they know what turns themselves on, but don't really know how to turn the other person on. Both sexes can be selfish when it comes to sex.

With that said, I wish girls were more active in the sack.

 

[cakalacman]

Ladies like you are out there, damn where????

Sorry, I have to voice my opinion (you may not like it, but opinions are like assholes, everyone has one).

There are some ladies (like me) that are out to please a man during sex. I ask the man what he likes, how he likes it. I want the man to tell me what feels good and what don't. BUT, I also expect that in return. I've had men that SUCK in bed just because they think all women are the same or they don't communicate and ask what feels good or how they like it. Turn abouts fair play.

As far as us women being selfish...I believe men are selfish. Most men (whether or not the woman SUCKED as you're trying to state) a man gets off and that's it. Very few men try to please a woman. I work my ass off to do what he likes and how he likes, whether it be sucking his dick, fucking, or whatever just so he will enjoy himself. I would rather please a man than have a man please me (don't get me wrong, I LOVE it when a man tries to please me).


This whole subject came up just last night with me. I was giving it all I had with my girl and she was not giving anything back. She has been wonderful before but last night was bad. First she woke me up about 3:00a.m playing with my dick. So I turned over and started a little foreplay. Finally we started going at it and I was not getting any talking out of her or anything. So I told her she was killing me and she said what do you mean and I said, talk to me tell me something and she had the balls to say what do you mean your getting what you want aren't you. so i rolled off and put my boxers back on and went back to sleep. My point is I had rather please the girl, not just get mine. It is glad to know there are ones like you out there that want to please your man also not just let him get his. Keep up the talking and great sex

Do you understand what I'm trying to say? That not all women are selfish and don't try to please a man and try not to "SUCK".