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Most accurate lift to predict strength

  • Thread starter Thread starter The_Eviscerator
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Most telling lift for overall strength.

  • Squats

    Votes: 18 26.1%

  • Deadlifts

    Votes: 36 52.2%

  • Bench Press

    Votes: 10 14.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 7.2%
  • Total voters
    69
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The_Eviscerator

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We in the US seem to think that bench press is the end all be all to strength, but I disagree. I am interested to see what lifts people hold in the highest esteem concerning strength. Personally I think Dead Lifts are the king, but what do you think?
 
:cool: Deadlift, if you think about it when you deadlift, the muscles that are involved are your: Legs, Arms, grip strength, your back, you shoulder and your forearms and you also use your shoulders and traps to some extent, so the muscles involved are quiet a few, also the overhead press that is perfomed off the floor is anohter one that could be considered as a true test of strenght.
 
I agree that the overhead press is a good indicator of strength, but there is a hell of a lot of technique involved with that lift. I was just considering lifts that were fairly easy to master.
 
The best exercise for determining overall strength is either the torso twist or the hyperextension. Either those or the the leg abductor machine. ;) JK.....

Out of those three, it has to be the deadlift as it involves the most muscle groups, the squat would be second, while the bench is a distant third.
 
Genetiking, I agree. That is the way I rank them. I see a lot of guys who can bench a decent amount of weight, but ask them to dead lift or squat and they fold up like a cheap suit.
 
Squats seem to kick my ass the most. You can cheat a lot on bench press, so ya I'd say squats.

Unless you count Susan Summer's "Thigh Master" J/K ;)
 
supersizeme said:
seriously though i i am going to have to go with tricep kickback on this. for overall strength AND mass building.
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Yes, they are killer. I love doing heavy sets of kickbacks and then fainting or chucking my guts out all over the gym floor. Hardcore baby!!
 
None of the above.
Firstly, we all have our own strengths and weaknesses. Yeah, everybody's lower back is stronger than their biceps, etc. But that doesn't mean everyone has the same ratio.
Then training comes in. If you spend your whole life curling and doing nothing else, then your biceps are gonna be disproportionally strong. But it doesn't make it a good indicator of overall strength. No one exercise is.
The only thing exercise really can measure is how big your balls are -- e.g. how many times you can squat 80% of your 1 rep max before you go crying for momma, etc.
 
wrlord said:
None of the above.
Firstly, we all have our own strengths and weaknesses. Yeah, everybody's lower back is stronger than their biceps, etc. But that doesn't mean everyone has the same ratio.
Then training comes in. If you spend your whole life curling and doing nothing else, then your biceps are gonna be disproportionally strong. But it doesn't make it a good indicator of overall strength. No one exercise is.
The only thing exercise really can measure is how big your balls are -- e.g. how many times you can squat 80% of your 1 rep max before you go crying for momma, etc.
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That may be true, but show me a guy who can dead lift 900 pounds and I bet he is one strong mother fucker overall. We are not talking about one specific strength, we are talking about overall strength, so your argument is a bit flawed.
 
i would have to go with squat and clean ...

then maybe power press(behind the neck push press)

the snatch looks like a pretty serious lift.. ive never tryed it..

or the snatch squat
 
Granted squats work 244 different muscles and are a true test of your manlyhood, but my vote goes to cleans and jerks. Not only do these lift display sheer strength, they also demonstrate an individuals athletic ability. I don't give a crap how strong you are, a person that masters these lifts would run circles around some meathead. And a brief note on bench. It is useless. How many times has someone come up to you and asked you how much you squat or clean? My guess is not many. If only they knew.
 
DEADLIFTS ? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

Ok so deadlifts are at the top of the charts. What is the world coming to? Deadlifts are the FARTHEST thing from a true test of strength. I have to agree with NavyCenter on this one..... CLEAN AND JERKS, BUDDY. Nothing is more difficult on the whole body. Plus you can't be a musclebound freak if you're going to do them. I honestly think that clean and jerks work every muscle in your body and if anyone feels differently try to prove it to me. They are the truest test of strength. The more you can clean and jerk, the more you have mastered your own body's ability to move weight. I can't believe that the 3 options above were even considered, particularly deadifts.


What are YOU trainin today?
-97-
 
Are you fucking kidding?

BadAZ DT 97 said:
Ok so deadlifts are at the top of the charts. What is the world coming to? Deadlifts are the FARTHEST thing from a true test of strength. I have to agree with NavyCenter on this one..... CLEAN AND JERKS, BUDDY. Nothing is more difficult on the whole body. Plus you can't be a musclebound freak if you're going to do them. I honestly think that clean and jerks work every muscle in your body and if anyone feels differently try to prove it to me. They are the truest test of strength. The more you can clean and jerk, the more you have mastered your own body's ability to move weight. I can't believe that the 3 options above were even considered, particularly deadifts.


What are YOU trainin today?
-97-
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The bottom line is that clean and jerks are mostly technique. I don't give a fuck how much you "PRACTICE" deadlifts you either yank the weight off the floor or you don't. No tricks, no technique just pure unadulterated strength. At least that is what I think...:bright:
 
I guess i would have to say deadlifts. Just wish i was able to deadlift 400lbs. Far from there right now.
 
Granted...deadlifts use a lot of muscles. On me they are limited by my lower back and grip strenght. Not major muscle groups like squats use.
Maybe my technique is bad. Maybe being 6'5" makes things different. I'm pretty new to the deadlifting scene as well. Just started today because of all the testimonials here.
After 4 sets...I could barely hold unto the bar.
 
One exercise I have been playing around with is the overhead squat.I don't know if it is the best test for overall strength, but it sure is a humbling exercise and incredibly difficult.Next to deadlifts, this is a tough one.
 
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