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Methyl 1-D, Ergopharm 1-AD... are they useless or worth every penny?

I know someone who had a blood test while on Methyl 1-D and it was a few points lower than when he last got it tasted while on nothing. So much for the conversion to testosterone.

I wouldn't trust anything developed by Pat Arnold to be anything more than garbage.
 
i disagree. Pat Arnold knows his stuff and the stuff he is putting out on the market is great considering it is legal! There is nothing that while be as strong as actual steroids but out of anyone, he is the closest. If you have a connect and want more dramatic results, get real AAS. If you just want a few pounds and don,t want legal issues, pro hormones can be looked at.
 
Im not fond of the Ergoparm line of products.They are over priced and way too many sides/rewards ratio.
 
Just Add Muscle said:
Im not fond of the Ergoparm line of products.They are over priced and way too many sides/rewards ratio.


even more with AAS but yu have to realize AAS is ILLEGAL. ill admit its overpriced.
 
ASC said:
even more with AAS but yu have to realize AAS is ILLEGAL. ill admit its overpriced.
Yes but there are much better legal alternatives than the Ergopharm stuff.Muscletech and ergopharm are 2 companies that I am not very fond off.I stock it because some people wont have it any other way but the ones that come into my store and I can talk them out of overpaying I will do my best to try.Id rather save a customer money and sell them a product that they are thrilled with and have them come back time and time again because they trust our word than sell them some crap that they come in believing in because of all the BS advertising.
 
Just Add Muscle said:
Yes but there are much better legal alternatives than the Ergopharm stuff.Muscletech and ergopharm are 2 companies that I am not very fond off.I stock it because some people wont have it any other way but the ones that come into my store and I can talk them out of overpaying I will do my best to try.Id rather save a customer money and sell them a product that they are thrilled with and have them come back time and time again because they trust our word than sell them some crap that they come in believing in because of all the BS advertising.

What do you think about Methyl 1-D??
 
wwebound4life said:
What do you think about Methyl 1-D??
This product seems to sell to online customers.Legal gear has made some really good products in the past.I do not have much feed back on this product though.
 
Just Add Muscle said:
Yes but there are much better legal alternatives than the Ergopharm stuff.Muscletech and ergopharm are 2 companies that I am not very fond off.I stock it because some people wont have it any other way but the ones that come into my store and I can talk them out of overpaying I will do my best to try.Id rather save a customer money and sell them a product that they are thrilled with and have them come back time and time again because they trust our word than sell them some crap that they come in believing in because of all the BS advertising.

So what do you believe are the "best" legal alternatives out there?
 
sopac said:
So what do you believe are the "best" legal alternatives out there?
For hard muscle gains.RPN Havoc,Infinite Labs Cyclotren,Competitive Edge Labs H-drol,Competitive Edge Labs M-drol,kilo sports trenadrol.

For big weight with some water and lots of strength:Competitive edge labs p-plex,Chaparral labs Pheravol V.These are the ones that people come back to my store time after time and I personally see the body composition changes and they talk about how incredible the product is.
 
PsychoWorkerOuter said:
and can they/should they be stacked?

Methyl 1-D
(new) Ergopharm 1-AD
6 OXO Extreme


thoughts please...

thanks.


IMO Methyl1-D is complete garbage.
6oxo is not bad but very expensive.
 
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