MastE

[nekojeeta]

Hello,

I’ve started TRT last September and I’ve been slowly dialing in my dose… I’ve finally landed on 25mg a day of TestC as being the most I can tolerate before getting sides (nipple burning / pain) and it also caps out my e2 to igf1 production via HGH. I’m also on 5iu of HGH pre-bed (IM). I’m not competing and I’m about 20% BF (started at 45% a little over a year ago).

I’m considering adding in MastE once I start hitting lift plateaus and I had a few questions (I have plenty of it on hand):

- My main goal is just to continue lean bulking as safely as possible. MastE seems to be the best drug of choice for this and it also doesn’t seem to impact e2 so no need for me to do the Test/Primo or Test/EQ dosing dance to manage e2 (my HCT also runs a little high which rules out EQ and I don’t have that much primo on hand):

- I’m not really looking to cycle, but more just run MastE indefinitely as long as my bloodwork / health markers look good. My plan is to just add 5mg a day on top of my TestC and slowly increment this as my lifts plateau by 5mg additionally a day. Does my 5mg increments make sense or for MastE would a 10mg starting dose with 10mg increases be more appropriate?

- For health markers, I planned to check blood pressure weekly, and then the following every 2 months as I think they are the main things that MastE might impact: HDL/LDL, GGT, Cystatin C, RBC/Hematocrit/Hemaglobin, PSA/Prolactin, DHT, Glucose, ApoB. Anything that I’m missing?

Thanks!

 

[the_alcatraz]

Hello,

I’ve started TRT last September and I’ve been slowly dialing in my dose… I’ve finally landed on 25mg a day of TestC as being the most I can tolerate before getting sides (nipple burning / pain) and it also caps out my e2 to igf1 production via HGH. I’m also on 5iu of HGH pre-bed (IM). I’m not competing and I’m about 20% BF (started at 45% a little over a year ago).

I’m considering adding in MastE once I start hitting lift plateaus and I had a few questions (I have plenty of it on hand):

- My main goal is just to continue lean bulking as safely as possible. MastE seems to be the best drug of choice for this and it also doesn’t seem to impact e2 so no need for me to do the Test/Primo or Test/EQ dosing dance to manage e2 (my HCT also runs a little high which rules out EQ and I don’t have that much primo on hand):

- I’m not really looking to cycle, but more just run MastE indefinitely as long as my bloodwork / health markers look good. My plan is to just add 5mg a day on top of my TestC and slowly increment this as my lifts plateau by 5mg additionally a day. Does my 5mg increments make sense or for MastE would a 10mg starting dose with 10mg increases be more appropriate?

- For health markers, I planned to check blood pressure weekly, and then the following every 2 months as I think they are the main things that MastE might impact: HDL/LDL, GGT, Cystatin C, RBC/Hematocrit/Hemaglobin, PSA/Prolactin, DHT, Glucose, ApoB. Anything that I’m missing?

Thanks!

@nekojeeta welcome to EF fam bro!
You’re talking a lot about plans but nobody can tell you if that’s smart without seeing how your bloods look now
Adding mast long term isn’t something to just wing based on feeling especially with your history of high HCT and nipple issues
Small bumps in dose sound safe on paper but can still sneak up on you if you’re not tracking the right markers
Post your full log so everyone can see where you’re at bro
you see other logs on EF right? you need to post one to really get help!

 

[stevesmi]

Hello,

I’ve started TRT last September and I’ve been slowly dialing in my dose… I’ve finally landed on 25mg a day of TestC as being the most I can tolerate before getting sides (nipple burning / pain) and it also caps out my e2 to igf1 production via HGH. I’m also on 5iu of HGH pre-bed (IM). I’m not competing and I’m about 20% BF (started at 45% a little over a year ago).

I’m considering adding in MastE once I start hitting lift plateaus and I had a few questions (I have plenty of it on hand):

- My main goal is just to continue lean bulking as safely as possible. MastE seems to be the best drug of choice for this and it also doesn’t seem to impact e2 so no need for me to do the Test/Primo or Test/EQ dosing dance to manage e2 (my HCT also runs a little high which rules out EQ and I don’t have that much primo on hand):

- I’m not really looking to cycle, but more just run MastE indefinitely as long as my bloodwork / health markers look good. My plan is to just add 5mg a day on top of my TestC and slowly increment this as my lifts plateau by 5mg additionally a day. Does my 5mg increments make sense or for MastE would a 10mg starting dose with 10mg increases be more appropriate?

- For health markers, I planned to check blood pressure weekly, and then the following every 2 months as I think they are the main things that MastE might impact: HDL/LDL, GGT, Cystatin C, RBC/Hematocrit/Hemaglobin, PSA/Prolactin, DHT, Glucose, ApoB. Anything that I’m missing?

Thanks!

why are you doing test cyp daily? once a week is all you need. also never heard of masteron being something to stay on like that. its a cosmetic steroid that hardens you up. you don't want to stay on it a long time unless you want to sleep on rocks

 

[SteveMobsterG]

Why TRT 'per day' and not a weekly or longer dose?

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hello,

I’ve started TRT last September and I’ve been slowly dialing in my dose… I’ve finally landed on 25mg a day of TestC as being the most I can tolerate before getting sides (nipple burning / pain) and it also caps out my e2 to igf1 production via HGH. I’m also on 5iu of HGH pre-bed (IM). I’m not competing and I’m about 20% BF (started at 45% a little over a year ago).

I’m considering adding in MastE once I start hitting lift plateaus and I had a few questions (I have plenty of it on hand):

- My main goal is just to continue lean bulking as safely as possible. MastE seems to be the best drug of choice for this and it also doesn’t seem to impact e2 so no need for me to do the Test/Primo or Test/EQ dosing dance to manage e2 (my HCT also runs a little high which rules out EQ and I don’t have that much primo on hand):

- I’m not really looking to cycle, but more just run MastE indefinitely as long as my bloodwork / health markers look good. My plan is to just add 5mg a day on top of my TestC and slowly increment this as my lifts plateau by 5mg additionally a day. Does my 5mg increments make sense or for MastE would a 10mg starting dose with 10mg increases be more appropriate?

- For health markers, I planned to check blood pressure weekly, and then the following every 2 months as I think they are the main things that MastE might impact: HDL/LDL, GGT, Cystatin C, RBC/Hematocrit/Hemaglobin, PSA/Prolactin, DHT, Glucose, ApoB. Anything that I’m missing?

Thanks!

masteron won't give you benefits cosmetically unless you are much leaner. you should be under 10% IMO

 

[2Thick]

Hello,

I’ve started TRT last September and I’ve been slowly dialing in my dose… I’ve finally landed on 25mg a day of TestC as being the most I can tolerate before getting sides (nipple burning / pain) and it also caps out my e2 to igf1 production via HGH. I’m also on 5iu of HGH pre-bed (IM). I’m not competing and I’m about 20% BF (started at 45% a little over a year ago).

I’m considering adding in MastE once I start hitting lift plateaus and I had a few questions (I have plenty of it on hand):

- My main goal is just to continue lean bulking as safely as possible. MastE seems to be the best drug of choice for this and it also doesn’t seem to impact e2 so no need for me to do the Test/Primo or Test/EQ dosing dance to manage e2 (my HCT also runs a little high which rules out EQ and I don’t have that much primo on hand):

- I’m not really looking to cycle, but more just run MastE indefinitely as long as my bloodwork / health markers look good. My plan is to just add 5mg a day on top of my TestC and slowly increment this as my lifts plateau by 5mg additionally a day. Does my 5mg increments make sense or for MastE would a 10mg starting dose with 10mg increases be more appropriate?

- For health markers, I planned to check blood pressure weekly, and then the following every 2 months as I think they are the main things that MastE might impact: HDL/LDL, GGT, Cystatin C, RBC/Hematocrit/Hemaglobin, PSA/Prolactin, DHT, Glucose, ApoB. Anything that I’m missing?

Thanks!

@nekojeeta i would say primo or EQ would be the best option over masteron for your goals. masteron is purely cosmetic

 

[nekojeeta]

This forum may not be for me…

Daily shots and long esters are definitely better as it keeps your levels stable, which means less spikes and less sides. You can verify this by plugging in weekly vs daily doses and different esters into sites like steroidplotter. I personally had sides when I did 100mg weekly shots, but now no sides doing 25mg daily shots (175mg a week).

All anabolics grow muscle. While Masteron may be be less anabolic from a potency perspective (ie mg to mg basis versus other compounds) people can typically tolerate much higher doses with less sides. Agreed Masteron hardens muscle and is a dryer look… but it can grow just as much muscle as anything else and I think people often confuse water weight that they try some some other compounds to actual muscle tissue (even under thr best of circumstances you are only gaining 0.5-2lbs of muscle a month unless you are still in the newbie gains phase).

 

[Ulter]

Hello,

I’ve started TRT last September and I’ve been slowly dialing in my dose… I’ve finally landed on 25mg a day of TestC as being the most I can tolerate before getting sides (nipple burning / pain) and it also caps out my e2 to igf1 production via HGH. I’m also on 5iu of HGH pre-bed (IM). I’m not competing and I’m about 20% BF (started at 45% a little over a year ago).

I’m considering adding in MastE once I start hitting lift plateaus and I had a few questions (I have plenty of it on hand):

- My main goal is just to continue lean bulking as safely as possible. MastE seems to be the best drug of choice for this and it also doesn’t seem to impact e2 so no need for me to do the Test/Primo or Test/EQ dosing dance to manage e2 (my HCT also runs a little high which rules out EQ and I don’t have that much primo on hand):

- I’m not really looking to cycle, but more just run MastE indefinitely as long as my bloodwork / health markers look good. My plan is to just add 5mg a day on top of my TestC and slowly increment this as my lifts plateau by 5mg additionally a day. Does my 5mg increments make sense or for MastE would a 10mg starting dose with 10mg increases be more appropriate?

- For health markers, I planned to check blood pressure weekly, and then the following every 2 months as I think they are the main things that MastE might impact: HDL/LDL, GGT, Cystatin C, RBC/Hematocrit/Hemaglobin, PSA/Prolactin, DHT, Glucose, ApoB. Anything that I’m missing?

Thanks!

can you set up a new log? tell us more about you and post up pics

 

[ceo]

Hello,

I’ve started TRT last September and I’ve been slowly dialing in my dose… I’ve finally landed on 25mg a day of TestC as being the most I can tolerate before getting sides (nipple burning / pain) and it also caps out my e2 to igf1 production via HGH. I’m also on 5iu of HGH pre-bed (IM). I’m not competing and I’m about 20% BF (started at 45% a little over a year ago).

I’m considering adding in MastE once I start hitting lift plateaus and I had a few questions (I have plenty of it on hand):

- My main goal is just to continue lean bulking as safely as possible. MastE seems to be the best drug of choice for this and it also doesn’t seem to impact e2 so no need for me to do the Test/Primo or Test/EQ dosing dance to manage e2 (my HCT also runs a little high which rules out EQ and I don’t have that much primo on hand):

- I’m not really looking to cycle, but more just run MastE indefinitely as long as my bloodwork / health markers look good. My plan is to just add 5mg a day on top of my TestC and slowly increment this as my lifts plateau by 5mg additionally a day. Does my 5mg increments make sense or for MastE would a 10mg starting dose with 10mg increases be more appropriate?

- For health markers, I planned to check blood pressure weekly, and then the following every 2 months as I think they are the main things that MastE might impact: HDL/LDL, GGT, Cystatin C, RBC/Hematocrit/Hemaglobin, PSA/Prolactin, DHT, Glucose, ApoB. Anything that I’m missing?

Thanks!

bros 99% of people on trt pin weekly. if you pin daily you will build up scar tissue. it isn't realistic long term to pin everyday for life

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro you need 3 things in life

lot lizards
red meat
tren

 

[nekojeeta]

bros 99% of people on trt pin weekly. if you pin daily you will build up scar tissue. it isn't realistic long term to pin everyday for life

I pin with a 31g insulin needle… not a lot of scar tissue

It’s kinda feeling like this board is 10 years behind the times… a lot of ppl have moved over to daily pins

 

[ceo]

I pin with a 31g insulin needle… not a lot of scar tissue

It’s kinda feeling like this board is 10 years behind the times… a lot of ppl have moved over to daily pins

bros with oils though pinning that shallow you gonna open yourself up to abscesses and scar tissue. that isn't behind the times, that is facts. oils should be pinned deep, they aren't like peptides

 

[nekojeeta]

bros with oils though pinning that shallow you gonna open yourself up to abscesses and scar tissue. that isn't behind the times, that is facts. oils should be pinned deep, they aren't like peptides

1/2” insulin needle to the delts or triceps - it’s plenty deep to get to the muscle

 

[the_alcatraz]

This forum may not be for me…

Daily shots and long esters are definitely better as it keeps your levels stable, which means less spikes and less sides. You can verify this by plugging in weekly vs daily doses and different esters into sites like steroidplotter. I personally had sides when I did 100mg weekly shots, but now no sides doing 25mg daily shots (175mg a week).

All anabolics grow muscle. While Masteron may be be less anabolic from a potency perspective (ie mg to mg basis versus other compounds) people can typically tolerate much higher doses with less sides. Agreed Masteron hardens muscle and is a dryer look… but it can grow just as much muscle as anything else and I think people often confuse water weight that they try some some other compounds to actual muscle tissue (even under thr best of circumstances you are only gaining 0.5-2lbs of muscle a month unless you are still in the newbie gains phase).

@nekojeeta maybe not for you bro but forum not for you because you cant tell us your LOG?

 

[Noah Wixx]

Why TRT 'per day' and not a weekly or longer dose?

Because for the last several years people online and on YT in the trt space have been pushing a narrative that daily micro dosing of test is the optimal way for trt.

 

[nekojeeta]

Because for the last several years people online and on YT in the trt space have been pushing a narrative that daily micro dosing of test is the optimal way for trt.

I started at weekly 100mg shots and developed sides after 5-6 weeks. Dropped down to 80mg and no more sides… read up and heard daily shots may help.

Started at 15mg a day shots after that and no sides after 6 weeks and bloods looks good… kept increasing 5mg every 6 weeks and found that I had no sides at 25mg a day (175mg a week) but did at 30mg a week (210mg as week).

 

[nekojeeta]

@nekojeeta maybe not for you bro but forum not for you because you cant tell us your LOG?

I’m not really looking to start a log at this point.

 

[ceo]

1/2” insulin needle to the delts or triceps - it’s plenty deep to get to the muscle

bros but if you don't rotate then easy for scar tissue to build up. even when i used to get allergy shots they would rotate muscles, much less an oil. just looking out for you

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

I pin with a 31g insulin needle… not a lot of scar tissue

It’s kinda feeling like this board is 10 years behind the times… a lot of ppl have moved over to daily pins

@nekojeeta bro we suggest what is right and not what is in TREND......everyone has different body and reactions the reason we were suggesting to start a log so we can understand the dynamics and help you better......also difference of opinion is common and is welcome on this forum...we respect everyone's opinion........

 

[ballin2504]

If it works for you it works. Daily or weekly

 

[25homes]

Masteron great

 

[Resurrected]

I'm 54 and from 1992 til 2018 I prided myself on having a current knowledge base. What's comfortable for me might not be comfortable for you. If I had been along for the ride with you on this I'd feel more comfortable dispersing wisdom. Have you reached your happy place cruise physique? The sustainable, minimal chemical, no sides, everyday, naked in front of the mirror body? I would recommend pinning your cyp in the cheek through a 22-23gx1". Alternate cheeks every 4 days. Healthy testosterone fluctuates so it's really impossible to be spot on every day. Run that mast in the same bucket at a 1:1 ratio for 6 weeks.

I think you might find selling that mast and going with 40mgs of Anavar a day might be better. Again I don't know you. If you're hellbent on every day it's cheaper to go with propionate.