Mark McGwire cycle

[slat1]

I see so many things wrong with this cycle. It amazes me these rich athletes don't seek out someone that knows a thing or two about juice. Take a look what this guy had Big Mac on:

½ cc of testosterone cypionate every three days
one cc of testosterone enanthate per week
¾ cc of equipoise and Winstrol V, every three days
*all to be injected into the buttocks

A couple things stick out fast. The half lives causing uneven hormone levels, mixing oil and water in an injection, no hcg, no nolva or similar product...

 

[RADAR]

I see so many things wrong with this cycle. It amazes me these rich athletes don't seek out someone that knows a thing or two about juice. Take a look what this guy had Big Mac on:

½ cc of testosterone cypionate every three days
one cc of testosterone enanthate per week
¾ cc of equipoise and Winstrol V, every three days
*all to be injected into the buttocks

A couple things stick out fast. The half lives causing uneven hormone levels, mixing oil and water in an injection, no hcg, no nolva or similar product...

HUH? Where does this guy live?? Under a rock???

and the mixture of test cyp and eth What is he expecting a miracle?
The whole cycle is nuts

RADAR

 

[metalfujimi]

when you say no nolva, do you mean no PCT at all? that is crazy

 

[Nelson Montana]

Hey, he wasn't doing it for bodybuilding purposes -- just to gain strength during the season games. Seemed to work.

 

[NinjaTurtles]

maybe he didnt mention the pct as nobody is concerned about that as the focus was cheating. seems like all athletes would have been on the barry bonds diet.

 

[lander2312]

ok I must chime in here...fisrt of all steroids are not going to help you hit a 89mph curve ball or a 100+mph fastball....another thing people forget when trying to dis mark is the fact that the pitcher was also on roids so he was able to throw harder and longer so you cant discredit that he was a great hitter....also if you question his cycle just look at pics of him when in Oakland vs St Louis.....nuff said....

 

[Nelson Montana]

ok I must chime in here...fisrt of all steroids are not going to help you hit a 89mph curve ball or a 100+mph fastball....another thing people forget when trying to dis mark is the fact that the pitcher was also on roids so he was able to throw harder and longer so you cant discredit that he was a great hitter....also if you question his cycle just look at pics of him when in Oakland vs St Louis.....nuff said....

That's not the point He already knows how to hit. Steroid just turn the fly ball into a home run. Just sayin.'

 

[ALIN]

I see so many things wrong with this cycle. It amazes me these rich athletes don't seek out someone that knows a thing or two about juice. Take a look what this guy had Big Mac on:

½ cc of testosterone cypionate every three days
one cc of testosterone enanthate per week
¾ cc of equipoise and Winstrol V, every three days
*all to be injected into the buttocks

A couple things stick out fast. The half lives causing uneven hormone levels, mixing oil and water in an injection, no hcg, no nolva or similar product...

Where did this cycle info come from?

 

[LiquidPhire]

Yea where is the info from? Not doubting you Slate just wonderin bro ;P hi guys!

 

[perryscoon]

Its a little odd with the 2 testosterones and all, but its not entirely bad. I run test cyp every 4 days.

hcg is a personal choice. its not necessary for everyone. i run no ai's at all any more and i get no gyno and i have nice big fat balls.

 

[jacshelb]

.....and the mixture of test cyp and eth What is he expecting a miracle?

Actually, according to some scientists such a combination will bring about a rupture in the space time continuum. Or, at the very least, a worm-hole. Awhile back I injected cyp and enanthate in the same shot. I blacked out and when I came to I was "here." By here I mean this dimension we're in right now. Apparently, in this realm women only have two breasts! Sigh, takes some getting used to. But, this "vagina" in place of the second anus is a welcome diversion I must admit.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Actually, according to some scientists such a combination will bring about a rupture in the space time continuum. Or, at the very least, a worm-hole. Awhile back I injected cyp and enanthate in the same shot. I blacked out and when I came to I was "here." By here I mean this dimension we're in right now. Apparently, in this realm women only have two breasts! Sigh, takes some getting used to. But, this "vagina" in place of the second anus is a welcome diversion I must admit.

That's pretty good.

 

[metalfujimi]

Actually, according to some scientists such a combination will bring about a rupture in the space time continuum. Or, at the very least, a worm-hole. Awhile back I injected cyp and enanthate in the same shot. I blacked out and when I came to I was "here." By here I mean this dimension we're in right now. Apparently, in this realm women only have two breasts! Sigh, takes some getting used to. But, this "vagina" in place of the second anus is a welcome diversion I must admit.

thats pretty damn funny

 

[slat1]

The cycle came from a CI the FBI was using who supplied Big Mac. You can find it listed on ESPN, CNNSI, the NYPost etc.
As for the "obviously it worked" thoughts. Every steroid works. I was referencing his long term health, general side effects etc.
Mac could always hit. He was skinny and hit 49 as a rookie.
I just have to say I am dumbfounded that the rich guys use their own CC's, have AAS mailed to their house, etc, etc.
Most of them have childhood friends that hang on for freebee's. I would have them earn it by purchasing everything in cash for me. Have them hire a steroid guru to design the cycles. Have a long term health involved in the decisions.
I guess a lot of guys learned. It is fairly obvious they are employing a smarter group now as you see hardly any of them are getting caught.

 

[slat1]

One more thing. There are guys at my gym doing three, four times as much stuff and are not half the size!
Reading, talking etc about AAS will never be boring that is for sure!

 

[RADAR]

Actually, according to some scientists such a combination will bring about a rupture in the space time continuum. Or, at the very least, a worm-hole. Awhile back I injected cyp and enanthate in the same shot. I blacked out and when I came to I was "here." By here I mean this dimension we're in right now. Apparently, in this realm women only have two breasts! Sigh, takes some getting used to. But, this "vagina" in place of the second anus is a welcome diversion I must admit.

LOL thats priceless!


RADAR

 

[thelion2005]

Big lack of knowledge here! Surprising. Should have joined EF,

 

[showcaseshowdown]

Good ideal about injecting in the buttocks only kind of hiding all the pinning marks or scar tissue. He still was very talented gear or no gear.

 

[treneriffic]

I see nothing at all wrong with that cycle..Id stick to either test cyp or test e but whats wrong with it? You can run oil based test with wintrol no problem you can even load the same pin with both if you want...whats the big deal? Lots of guys run test/eq/winstrol cyles..Ill be running a very similar cycle of test/masteron/winstrol...whats wrong with that?

 

[Dogfox]

I see nothing at all wrong with that cycle..Id stick to either test cyp or test e but whats wrong with it? You can run oil based test with wintrol no problem you can even load the same pin with both if you want...whats the big deal? Lots of guys run test/eq/winstrol cyles..Ill be running a very similar cycle of test/masteron/winstrol...whats wrong with that?

read the thread

 

[jacshelb]

I play in a band with 4 other guys who are all either math, science, or comic book geeks. I was the "outsider" coming in because I'm into bodybuilding. They just assumed I was a jock or something. Then I start talking about selective androgen receptor modulators and other fun stuff. And, over time they realized I too was a geek, just in a different way. That's where this whole cyp mixed with enanthate thing comes in and a bit of the rest of the cycle. Mark McGuire is the jock, we're the gear nerds! lol. But, I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[HITTucker]

steriods will help you hit a baseball. watch the tape. BigMac pops one up and u think the shortstop will catch it in shallow left and it goes four hundred feet. I agree totally with Nelson, it turns the medium-deep fly into a round tripper. But if his cycle was like this what were the pitchers taking? I heard Clemens favorite was deca, i dont get that for a pitcher, whats with that?

 

[jacshelb]

... I heard Clemens favorite was deca, i dont get that for a pitcher, whats with that?

Joint lubrication. Deca is notorious for providing relief from joint pain- at least while on it. I'm imagining nearly all pitchers have terrible shoulder aches etc. from the intense repetitive motion.

 

[HITTucker]

Joint lubrication. Deca is notorious for providing relief from joint pain- at least while on it. I'm imagining nearly all pitchers have terrible shoulder aches etc. from the intense repetitive motion.

God thanks for makin me feel like an idiot DUH to me. Ummm I was just thinkin they wouldn't want all the water retention. I bet Clemens was a lil smarter bout it than McGwire

 

[jacshelb]

God thanks for makin me feel like an idiot DUH to me. Ummm I was just thinkin they wouldn't want all the water retention. I bet Clemens was a lil smarter bout it than McGwire

I think it's just on my mind lately with all the aches and pains in the joints I get! lol.

 

[RobertD1885]

Assuming this is an accurate report from the informant supplier (big assumption), it doesn't mean that Mac didn't have a second supplier, supplying who knows what.

 

[OMEGA]

I actually see the logic to that 'cycle'

its sort of a super primed HRT

 

[glennds]

how do we even knwo this info is accurate?

 

[azntomahawk]

Well the guy (Curt I think) said this was when Mark was first testing out steroids. Then Curt gets busted and says he stopped supplying. Mark apparently got steroids from someone else and they might have changed what he was taking.
I think it is funny when people say being stronger and faster will not help you in sports. Not with the skills but def the athletic aspect.

 

[metalfujimi]

Well the guy (Curt I think) said this was when Mark was first testing out steroids. Then Curt gets busted and says he stopped supplying. Mark apparently got steroids from someone else and they might have changed what he was taking.
I think it is funny when people say being stronger and faster will not help you in sports. Not with the skills but def the athletic aspect.

being bigger and stronger will definately help you, but people say it wont help because you have to have the natural skill and talent to be good anyway. I can juice all I want and I will never be a linebacker in the NFL. sure, it would help, but I would already have to have the skills and years of practice to be able to be that good, juice or not. The same is true of all athletes.

 

[azntomahawk]

being bigger and stronger will definately help you, but people say it wont help because you have to have the natural skill and talent to be good anyway. I can juice all I want and I will never be a linebacker in the NFL. sure, it would help, but I would already have to have the skills and years of practice to be able to be that good, juice or not. The same is true of all athletes.

The thing is he had the skills and practice. What I am trying to say is they helped amplify his athletic ability. Some people can make contact with a baseball and not be able to hit it out the park while Mark was blasting the ball. I am sure he had home runs where he just muscled it over the wall. I mean look at what Bonds was doing. He was hitting the ball regularly into the bay to the point where point would sit in kayaks out there during games lol.
I dont pretend to know a lot about baseball but I know hitting is about hand eye, contact, and hips(I think).

 

[metalfujimi]

The thing is he had the skills and practice. What I am trying to say is they helped amplify his athletic ability. Some people can make contact with a baseball and not be able to hit it out the park while Mark was blasting the ball. I am sure he had home runs where he just muscled it over the wall. I mean look at what Bonds was doing. He was hitting the ball regularly into the bay to the point where point would sit in kayaks out there during games lol.
I dont pretend to know a lot about baseball but I know hitting is about hand eye, contact, and hips(I think).

yes it definately helped his athletic ability. But those other guys could have taken roids too to hit it farther. It is not cheating since there is a safe and effective way to use steroids. Its their responsibilty to learn how to do it properly if they want to be the best. People need to stop bashing steroids in sports. Everyone has a fair advantage to learn the best and most effective ways to build muslce.

 

[azntomahawk]

yes it definately helped his athletic ability. But those other guys could have taken roids too to hit it farther. It is not cheating since there is a safe and effective way to use steroids. Its their responsibilty to learn how to do it properly if they want to be the best. People need to stop bashing steroids in sports. Everyone has a fair advantage to learn the best and most effective ways to build muslce.

Lol Idk if people take steroids in sports especially baseball. I just think it is funny how misinformed the masses are. I think we have a similar view of the situation.

Anyone ever see comedian Bill Burr's take on steroids in baseball?

 

[treneriffic]

I think it should be manditory for professional athletes to take steroids. Even homo tennis players

 

[metalfujimi]

Lol Idk if people take steroids in sports especially baseball. I just think it is funny how misinformed the masses are. I think we have a similar view of the situation.

Anyone ever see comedian Bill Burr's take on steroids in baseball?

a ton of people do. baseball, football, MMA all use. But i agree that the masses are severely misinformed. Its funny to hear someone talk about it when they have no idea whats going on

 

[azntomahawk]

a ton of people do. baseball, football, MMA all use. But i agree that the masses are severely misinformed. Its funny to hear someone talk about it when they have no idea whats going on

I think it is funny when people suggest basketball player use which would be kinda funny. The only thing basketball players could do better would be jumping.
I think steroid improves performance but not like the masses think.

 

[kawikaratekid]

ok I must chime in here...fisrt of all steroids are not going to help you hit a 89mph curve ball or a 100+mph fastball....another thing people forget when trying to dis mark is the fact that the pitcher was also on roids so he was able to throw harder and longer so you cant discredit that he was a great hitter....also if you question his cycle just look at pics of him when in Oakland vs St Louis.....nuff said....

It helps in so many ways. Fast twitch muscle fibers, muscle memory, improved bat speed, improved focus, improved coordination, improved aggressiveness, improved confidence, allowed him to play many games that he would haven't been able to play due to muscle fatigue and general wear and tear. The list goes on and on. Test helps every professional athlete that plays a sport that frequently gets regular television ratings. Who the f are we kidding here?

If Mark couldn't do it in his late twenties - early thirties, what changed in his early forties? Better workout routine and you got it juice!

 

[kawikaratekid]

I think it is funny when people suggest basketball player use which would be kinda funny. The only thing basketball players could do better would be jumping.
I think steroid improves performance but not like the masses think.

Endurance, speed, hand eye, increased red blood cells, and increased strength to name a few. Putting twenty pounds on when you're battling in the paint changes your game a little.

 

[kawikaratekid]

The thing is he had the skills and practice. What I am trying to say is they helped amplify his athletic ability. Some people can make contact with a baseball and not be able to hit it out the park while Mark was blasting the ball. I am sure he had home runs where he just muscled it over the wall. I mean look at what Bonds was doing. He was hitting the ball regularly into the bay to the point where point would sit in kayaks out there during games lol.
I dont pretend to know a lot about baseball but I know hitting is about hand eye, contact, and hips(I think).

A lot of muscles are involved in swinging the bat. It's basically a movement that requires muscles from head to toe to function correctly.