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Male models, how do they train?

Santa_Claus

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I do a typical football/powerlifting routine and I am quite bulky and my delts are way too big compared to the rest of my body.

What do they do to have such a nice looking body?

I do squats 3x a week and my ass is HUGE, same prob with delts.


What to do?
 
they dont train different, they're just naturally lean guys with good muscle shape and small frames.

as opposed to pro bb-ers, who lean up, have good muscle shape, and larger frames

if you look bulky you'll probably always look bulky, unless you starve off the extra muscle. i wouldnt recommend that
 
a large amount of younger male models have eating disorders from trying to lean down. I imagine the training consists of bench, curls, abs, and shrugs. The normal beach workout.

I agree with casual, models are generally smaller framed with little fat. If you are bigger framed, I suggest that you work with what you have and get jacked instead of starving yourself down. Make those delts look smaller by building up the chest and middle traps more, etc etc..
 
hmm, what exercises will make your muscles SMALLER. how less of what you're already doing, especially food.
 
Yea they do look good. Dont know that I would want to look like that though. First Theyre no stronger than your average guy and second unless they wear skin tight clothes you cant even tell they lift. I have a friend with one of those bodies and on the beach he looks great but with clothes on he looks normal. Assuming that you have clothes on most of the time id rather look better in clothes. IMO that means big shoulders back chest. All functional muscles
 
Can't knock them for doing what they do any more than what we believe about powerlifters or bodybuilders or strongmen. They make money, they get chicks but the fact that they are weaker than us is not lost on the pubic - they just don't care.
 
generally they train with the neck machine this way they can get down on teir knees and suck cawk with good force

Santa-i guarnateee ur ass isnt huge-youve been squatting thats good but its in ur genetic make up to be large or bigger thanaverage in the hip structure sorry to say no matter what you do you wont hae a flat littel ass/hips like a male model
 
Tweakle said:
yoga, pilates, coke, starvation, var.

haha, true that

Well, to be a model you have to be 6' at minumum. Usually the guys are just born with very low body fat genetics, and just to maintain it all they have to do is lift light, probably a few crunches, but definately not an actual "routine" as opposed to what they actually eat.
 
Well im one of those naturally lean guys, but trying to bulk... its simply impossible.. i eat like a beast and still weight 145 benching 230 max

as for male models its meaning a strict diet or no diet( eating disorder) or just a simple high rep workout routine
 
I cant belive all the negitivity from this question. There are lots of guys that will never be huge BBers. May be regular clothing models dont train hard, but there are lots of models that are stacked. If you want to claim guys that are 6'' 185 ripped up dont train hard and only get like that from lack of eating, go ahead. But I think that is a huge insult to regular guys that lift to look good and dont have the want to be 250lbs.
 
I got a buddy who modeled when he was 20 years old. He was encouraged to lose weight even though he was pretty muscular. So, he did..he starved himself to get down to "model" size. He never made it big and got hit on all of the time by other guys in the business :bigkiss: ...ick :sick:

Your delts would have to be friggin HUGE to be too big for the rest of your body. Most guys have delts that are too small, if you look at em from the front they look wide and thick but as soon as they turn sideways they disappear. No rear delts.

IMO...delts and calves are two body parts that really make an impression. If you got huge thighs and small calves people notice it rightaway but the reverse is never a negative. You could have huge arms, chest, and traps but delts that are too small will definitely stand out. Be glad you got em..
 
araiber said:
haha, true that

Well, to be a model you have to be 6' at minumum. Usually the guys are just born with very low body fat genetics, and just to maintain it all they have to do is lift light, probably a few crunches, but definately not an actual "routine" as opposed to what they actually eat.

not true if your talking about male fitness models- Mike Ryan has done a shitload of covers & hes maybe 5'9". Low bodyfat, he trains hi rep/low weight & does hours of cardio.

http://www.mikeryantraining.com/photos-covers.html
 
I had a good friend in college who became a male model. They made him cut from 215 to 165 at just undre 6' tall. Evan at 175 they said he was just too big and couldn't get any jobs. He finally got down to 160 and got a bunch of work but it fucked up his health pretty badly. It was just shocking to see a guy go from being a super lean 215 to 160lbs, he looked like a completely different person.

Yes starvation and a plethora of drugs allowed for the weight loss.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
I think he means the fruity looking guys you see in Cosmo rather than fitness models.. male fitness models are a totally different thing from the emaciated pole smokers pouting at the camera in womens mags.

The 'mens health' / bowflex look needs hard training, genes and low bodyfat year round... some of those dudes are getting big these days too, like 200+ and ripped
 
why do they work out different than a bodybuilder, with high reps & low weight instead of the other way around? does one give you more volume and the other more strength? i don't understand :/
 
6', 185 and ripped isn't what i think of when i think of a male model. obviously there are a lot of different kinds of male model. any professional male bodybuilders is a male model if he gets any endorsements or paid for photos. but many male models are small with a low bodyfat. a lot of female models are small and weak too. I think a lot of the negativity on the thread is because this is a forum about weightlifting, and people who are into that generally want to be big, strong, or both. And a lot of male models are close to average in size and strength. they have a certain 'look' that they might refine or enhance with some training and some undereating, while people here are more interested in sculpting and changing themselves through a lot of work, making the natural reaction to being 'good-looking' just by accident pretty negative.
 
allright first things first.....i think the whole "male model" thing is pretty fucking silly, and i think that zoolander was damn funny......

with that being said, some of you are fucking crazy to think that these guys are just some frail little bitches that diet and under eat all the time. can you really say that this guy ( Marcus Schenkenberg)
http://www.supermodelguide.com/supermodels/marcus.html , who is the most famous male model ever, looks unhealthy, or like he diets all the time? maybe there is a world of puking, dieting male model bitches out there that i just don't know about, but you are in hardcore body builder denial to think that Marcus Schenkenberg ,for example, does not have a good look. :rolleyes:
 
Ruca said:
allright first things first.....i think the whole "male model" thing is pretty fucking silly, and i think that zoolander was damn funny......

with that being said, some of you are fucking crazy to think that these guys are just some frail little bitches that diet and under eat all the time. can you really say that this guy ( Marcus Schenkenberg)
http://www.supermodelguide.com/supermodels/marcus.html , who is the most famous male model ever, looks unhealthy, or like he diets all the time? maybe there is a world of puking, dieting male model bitches out there that i just don't know about, but you are in hardcore body builder denial to think that Marcus Schenkenberg ,for example, does not have a good look. :rolleyes:

you dont think he looks frail???
i think he needs to stay in if the winds kick up to about 15 knots lol
and yeah hes blessed with genetics but i dont think its reall all that hard to "train" for that physique other than not really eating much..

I have a friend that has ripped and i mean ripped abs who eats what he wants and does not lift a single weight..He used to lift weights but nothing serious and yet is still able to maintain that physique why GENETICS
 
I want to add that the most important thing in the modeling business in the face. If you want to be a model, get some pics taken and send them to some agents, if you don't have the face, all the abs and lines and definition in the world won't land you a job.

I agree with wnt2bbeast in that I do not think the average male model's physique looks powerful. In fact, I'd send him karma if my K hits weren't gray, lol.

Guys transitioning from a bodybuilding/strength training/athletic background have to lose muscle to model.Don't be fooled by all the pics in the world with guys sporting a good tan, a shaved chest, proper lighting etc, those guys do not look 'big' in person. Do they have a good physique? Yeah, but that is a matter of opinion. Some people like the look, others want more size.

Frank Sepe, who was a bodybuilder, then turned to modeling says that he had to deal with a huge blow to his ego from losing muscle. He said that the weights he lifts now are nothing impressive, and it was a big blow to lose size, not 'look intimidating', and not draw stares from lifting huge weights in the gym. He said he had to lose muscle in order to model, and that it isn't for everyone. He also said you need to maintain your lean state year round, as there is no off-season. If a call for work comes in and you're not in 'modeling shape', they'll just call someone else, they don't say "ok, diet for 12 weeks and you're on".

As far as training, in my opinion it doesn't matter. You don't get 'bulky' in the gym, you get bulky in the kitchen. My advice is train how you like to train, and eat in a manner that allows you to stay at your goal weight, everybody is different.

As far as I am concerned, the physique of a model is not something I aspire towards. But, I can't knock it, because my physique is not something a model aspires towards. The ones who follow the Vodka, cigarrette, and cocaine diet do not earn my respect, but anybody who makes training and nutrition a priority, and who works hard to acheive their goals has my respect, no matter what the goals are.
 
hahahahahaha.....sorry fellows.....we can all agree to disagree on this one!

please don't think that i am trying to be a dick but some of the stuff that you guys are saying almost sounds crazy to me! like "you don't think he looks frail?" or talking about the guy with the ego blow for not looking intimidating.....it's like reverse anorexia (sp?)!! it is really a funny insight into how some body builders views things. do you think that royce gracie is intimidated when he sees a 250# jacked guy? if it's all about being "frail" or "intimidating" i would much rather fight a guy that was 6' 280# and huge, than some guy that was 6'4" 215# and a mma expert! like i said, sorry i know we are all different but i think you guys have some seriously distorted views here!
 
Ruca said:
hahahahahaha.....sorry fellows.....we can all agree to disagree on this one!

please don't think that i am trying to be a dick but some of the stuff that you guys are saying almost sounds crazy to me! like "you don't think he looks frail?" or talking about the guy with the ego blow for not looking intimidating.....it's like reverse anorexia (sp?)!! it is really a funny insight into how some body builders views things. do you think that royce gracie is intimidated when he sees a 250# jacked guy? if it's all about being "frail" or "intimidating" i would much rather fight a guy that was 6' 280# and huge, than some guy that was 6'4" 215# and a mma expert! like i said, sorry i know we are all different but i think you guys have some seriously distorted views here!
whos fighting??? ;)
6' 350 or 6'4 200 and ripped
either one wont be able to walk if you baseball their fuggin kneecaps :)
and it cant be all about pussy either cuz ive seen fat guys(that dont lift) get the hotties and ive seen the male model types get the same chicas

i am not a BB and i do view things differently-i am far far from the ideal physique but then again thats not what im about or why i lift :)
 
wnt2bBeast said:
whos fighting??? ;)
6' 350 or 6'4 200 and ripped
either one wont be able to walk if you baseball their fuggin kneecaps :)
and it cant be all about pussy either cuz ive seen fat guys(that dont lift) get the hotties and ive seen the male model types get the same chicas

i am not a BB and i do view things differently-i am far far from the ideal physique but then again thats not what im about or why i lift :)


the only reason that i mention fighting is because that other guy mentioned being intimidating. i just don't think that "big" is "intimidating". also i associate "intimidating" with fighting. i think that too many big guys associate how big they are with how tough they think they look which i think is funny. a good friend of mine is a 3rd degree black belt in kali salat (sp?) which is phillipino martial arts. his "master" is an older kind of tubby guy who is far from big but i would be shocked if there were any dudes on here that could take him. my friend who i am referring to is a "little" guy (probally 5'7" and 155#), but very strong for his size, and in a fight i would put my $$ on him over some 250# dude any day!

as far as women go....i live in miami beach so i see a ton of ugly dudes with hot women......but......taking their faces out of the equasion.....if you send a bodybuilder, a huge guy, a male model built guy, and a fat dude to the beach to pick up women, that male model fag is going to have 10 women for every 1 that all the other guys have combined! and that's a fact!
 
Ruca said:
the only reason that i mention fighting is because that other guy mentioned being intimidating. i just don't think that "big" is "intimidating". also i associate "intimidating" with fighting. i think that too many big guys associate how big they are with how tough they think they look which i think is funny. a good friend of mine is a 3rd degree black belt in kali salat (sp?) which is phillipino martial arts. his "master" is an older kind of tubby guy who is far from big but i would be shocked if there were any dudes on here that could take him. my friend who i am referring to is a "little" guy (probally 5'7" and 155#), but very strong for his size, and in a fight i would put my $$ on him over some 250# dude any day!

as far as women go....i live in miami beach so i see a ton of ugly dudes with hot women......but......taking their faces out of the equasion.....if you send a bodybuilder, a huge guy, a male model built guy, and a fat dude to the beach to pick up women, that male model fag is going to have 10 women for every 1 that all the other guys have combined! and that's a fact!

I know what you're saying, and while I do agree with you, the issue being discussed wasn't 'looking tough vs being tough' or 'would you rather be tough or look tough?' It was about attaining a certain look. I was talking about an article written by a guy who went from bodybuilding to modeling and how it was a blow to HIM to be much smaller. Maybe that is normal, maybe it's not, I am not a psychologist. Again, nobody mentioned fighting ability because it had absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the post. To a bodybuilder, physique is what matters. I don't agree with this, but many a bodybuilder would say "who cares how tough Joyce Gracie is, he looks like shit"......not my thoughts, but it illustrates how different goals affect one's priorities.

I do agree with a lot of what you say though. I'll ask you this for conversation, not to start an internet pissing match....yes, a skilled smaller guy will beat an unskilled bigger guy.....but what about a skilled little guy against a skilled big guy......you'd bet on your friend over a 250lb guy any day.....but what if the 250lb guy was Frank Mir or Kimo Leopoldo, or Mark Coleman or Rico Rodriquez, or any UFC heavyweight for example..not saying these guys could beat ANYBODY smaller than them, as this obviously isn't true, just pointing out that not everybody who weighs over 200lbs isn't an unskilled, immobile bodybuilder....this is beyond the scope of what you mentioned, but your post was beyond the scope of what was being discussed......I just want to hear your thoughts.
 
Ruca said:
hahahahahaha.....sorry fellows.....we can all agree to disagree on this one!

please don't think that i am trying to be a dick but some of the stuff that you guys are saying almost sounds crazy to me! like "you don't think he looks frail?" or talking about the guy with the ego blow for not looking intimidating.....it's like reverse anorexia (sp?)!! it is really a funny insight into how some body builders views things. do you think that royce gracie is intimidated when he sees a 250# jacked guy? if it's all about being "frail" or "intimidating" i would much rather fight a guy that was 6' 280# and huge, than some guy that was 6'4" 215# and a mma expert! like i said, sorry i know we are all different but i think you guys have some seriously distorted views here!


I hear what you're saying but you are making an abstract point. As I said my friend who is a male model is 6' 160lbs and he is still on the big side. I actually watched part of that America's top male model show (not by choice) and they were telling a guy that was 6'2" and 175 that he was fat and needed to lean up if he wanted to win. By "lean up" they meant lose muscle since the dude had no bodyfat already.

And yeah royce gracie is huge as are the shamrocks, so that's an incorrect comparison to male models. Also not knowing someones fighting skill from the getgo most people will fear the larger person.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Scotsman said:
I hear what you're saying but you are making an abstract point. As I said my friend who is a male model is 6' 160lbs and he is still on the big side. I actually watched part of that America's top male model show (not by choice) and they were telling a guy that was 6'2" and 175 that he was fat and needed to lean up if he wanted to win. By "lean up" they meant lose muscle since the dude had no bodyfat already.

And yeah royce gracie is huge as are the shamrocks, so that's an incorrect comparison to male models. Also not knowing someones fighting skill from the getgo most people will fear the larger person.

Cheers,
Scotsman

isnt that sad 175 and ripped..yet they wanna strip you down further
i wonder what the rationale is for that..
am i out of touch with women? do most womne prefer a guy thats got the muscle of a 12 year old and is ripped? or is it about the clothes? i used to buy the expensive stuff Armani etc i never bought that shit because of te way a guy looked i only bought it cuz i had the dough and wanted to show off
 
wnt2bBeast said:
isnt that sad 175 and ripped..yet they wanna strip you down further
i wonder what the rationale is for that..
am i out of touch with women? do most womne prefer a guy thats got the muscle of a 12 year old and is ripped? or is it about the clothes? i used to buy the expensive stuff Armani etc i never bought that shit because of te way a guy looked i only bought it cuz i had the dough and wanted to show off


The rationale is how they cut the clothes for fashion shows don't look right on normal people so they need super thin men and women. Plus on camera since you look 10 or so pounds heavier they need to reduce the real image accordingly. I have seen a couple of professional female models and they are fucking gross looking. They look nice in the airbrushed pictures and on tv where they get that appearance of extra weight, but in real life they look unhealty and are so thing you can see their joints move around. Plus women primarily like what society tells them to like, just like men are all supposed to swoon over the victoria's secrets girls. Sadly people kill themselves everyday trying to look that way not realizing it isn't possible for the average person. Yet everyday we see how we are "supposed" to look and what we are "supposed" to want.


Cheers,
Scotsman
 
BiggT said:
I know what you're saying, and while I do agree with you, the issue being discussed wasn't 'looking tough vs being tough' or 'would you rather be tough or look tough?' It was about attaining a certain look. I was talking about an article written by a guy who went from bodybuilding to modeling and how it was a blow to HIM to be much smaller. Maybe that is normal, maybe it's not, I am not a psychologist. Again, nobody mentioned fighting ability because it had absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the post. To a bodybuilder, physique is what matters. I don't agree with this, but many a bodybuilder would say "who cares how tough Joyce Gracie is, he looks like shit"......not my thoughts, but it illustrates how different goals affect one's priorities.

I do agree with a lot of what you say though. I'll ask you this for conversation, not to start an internet pissing match....yes, a skilled smaller guy will beat an unskilled bigger guy.....but what about a skilled little guy against a skilled big guy......you'd bet on your friend over a 250lb guy any day.....but what if the 250lb guy was Frank Mir or Kimo Leopoldo, or Mark Coleman or Rico Rodriquez, or any UFC heavyweight for example..not saying these guys could beat ANYBODY smaller than them, as this obviously isn't true, just pointing out that not everybody who weighs over 200lbs isn't an unskilled, immobile bodybuilder....this is beyond the scope of what you mentioned, but your post was beyond the scope of what was being discussed......I just want to hear your thoughts.



first thing....respect to all of you guys for all of us being able to voice our opinions without anyone getting personal or anything :beer:

like i said...the only reason i brought up fighting is because i associate "intimidation" with it, and because it seems like many peoples reasoning behind wanting to get huge is to look tough. my thoughts on a big guy that is a mma expert are.................i think that there is a point of diminishing returns (if that is the right phrase for this...haha)...just going by my not so good memory, it seems like the pride and ufc guys who have been the most hardcore badasses are in the 220-230 range (rich franklin, don frye, shamrock, etc.). don't hold me to the exact names and #'s on that but i believe that i am pretty close. kind of like how in basketball you have some little guys that are bad asses, some big men that are, but the most all around ones (jordan, macgrady, carter, bryant, etc) are in that mid-size range (6'6"-6'9"). i think my small friend for example, would have a much better chance against a 300# mma fighter than he would a 220# mma fighter, even though i'm sure he would get mangled by both.

but on the thread topic.....i just think it's nuts that some peoples views are so messed up that they can think that this dude http://www.jurgita.com/pictures/models/photos-10493-Marcus-Schenkenberg-10493-2 , who is 6'2" and has to be 200# range, looks frail or unhealthy. it seriously reminds me of the 5'8" 100# anorexic bitch, that thinks that the 5'8" 120 pound hot chicks are fat....but just the opposite!

***EDIT*** after looking around at a lot of the ufc/pride badasses on sherdog, i am surprised that most of the guys are 200#-220#, which is smaller than i remembered most of them. from the names i remember, and looking at who has kicked who's ass, it seems to me like that range is the optimum, or most efficient fighting size.
 
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Scotsman said:
I hear what you're saying but you are making an abstract point. As I said my friend who is a male model is 6' 160lbs and he is still on the big side. I actually watched part of that America's top male model show (not by choice) and they were telling a guy that was 6'2" and 175 that he was fat and needed to lean up if he wanted to win. By "lean up" they meant lose muscle since the dude had no bodyfat already.

And yeah royce gracie is huge as are the shamrocks, so that's an incorrect comparison to male models. Also not knowing someones fighting skill from the getgo most people will fear the larger person.

Cheers,
Scotsman


that marcus guy is the one male model that i know of, and being that he is the most famous one ever, that is what i have to go by. i'm far from a homo, but the dude looks good.

royce gracie http://www.roycegracie.tv/bio.htm is not huge. he is 6'1" and 180#, but according to many on here that size is tiny, weak, frail. just looked up shamrock and he is 5'11" and 215#, which is big, but not by the standards on here. don frye http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterid=124 , who is my favorite ever if for no other reason than how bad he fucks peoples faces up...haha, is 6'1" 210.

damn i just looked up rich franklin http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterid=392 and didn't even realize how small he is (being serious), at 5'11" and 185#
 
Ruca said:
that marcus guy is the one male model that i know of, and being that he is the most famous one ever, that is what i have to go by. i'm far from a homo, but the dude looks good.

royce gracie http://www.roycegracie.tv/bio.htm is not huge. he is 6'1" and 180#, but according to many on here that size is tiny, weak, frail. just looked up shamrock and he is 5'11" and 215#, which is big, but not by the standards on here. don frye http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterid=124 , who is my favorite ever if for no other reason than how bad he fucks peoples faces up...haha, is 6'1" 210.

damn i just looked up rich franklin http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterid=392 and didn't even realize how small he is (being serious), at 5'11" and 185#


I'd put the marcus guy at maybe 170lbs, his legs are really small so that takes away a lot of weight.

I must have gotten royce mixed up in my mind as one of the bigger guys, I don't follow ufv and mma too close. And 6'1" and 210 lean is pretty big. I know that when I was 190ish I was still much bigger looking than any of those model guys at 6'2", now that I am over 300lbs my perception is skewed a bit though.LOL

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Scotsman said:
I'd put the marcus guy at maybe 170lbs, his legs are really small so that takes away a lot of weight.

I must have gotten royce mixed up in my mind as one of the bigger guys, I don't follow ufv and mma too close. And 6'1" and 210 lean is pretty big. I know that when I was 190ish I was still much bigger looking than any of those model guys at 6'2", now that I am over 300lbs my perception is skewed a bit though.LOL

Cheers,
Scotsman


out of curiosity i found his weight on a couple of sites. he is listed at 6'2" and 188#. maybe skinny by bb or power lifter standards, but i would put $$ that there is not many hot girlies out there that would tell him that he is "too skinny"...haha

on another note....damn man from 190 to over 300....that is a huge difference!! is that natural older weight combined with lifting or have you straight up been gaining on purpose for years?
 
Scotsman said:
The rationale is how they cut the clothes for fashion shows don't look right on normal people so they need super thin men and women. Plus on camera since you look 10 or so pounds heavier they need to reduce the real image accordingly. I have seen a couple of professional female models and they are fucking gross looking. They look nice in the airbrushed pictures and on tv where they get that appearance of extra weight, but in real life they look unhealty and are so thing you can see their joints move around. Plus women primarily like what society tells them to like, just like men are all supposed to swoon over the victoria's secrets girls. Sadly people kill themselves everyday trying to look that way not realizing it isn't possible for the average person. Yet everyday we see how we are "supposed" to look and what we are "supposed" to want.


Cheers,
Scotsman

im so not inot female models besides the pretty face they are kinda disgusting looking with teir spines protruding from their backs :worried:
maybe im different i dunno but i like a whole lotta AZZ tapered waist and big ol titties flopping around :p
 
I love me some meaty women, with the curves to match. Models are not attractive to me other than faces.

Dysmorphia (or bigorexia for heathens) is very prevelant with body builders and weight lifters. Think about it. When most people start lifting they start really low, and really weak. As they progress they see themselves as being very weak and frail compared to what they could be. They see other people as being weak and frail compared to what they could be. They begin to see the musculature imbalances and weaknesses of themselves and others. It is almost unavoidable because when you are armed with knowledge on how to strengthen the body, you will be affected by that knowledge.

I think that marcus guy looks weak too. He is bigger than me, he does look asthetically pleasing, but whats the deal with his traps and legs? Can we say weak erectors too? I would wager that he avoids shrugs like the plague (like most models). Ohh, I dont want to be all thick necked like a caveman!! OHHH! Then my paisly shirt won't fit anymore! :rainbow:
 
there are two kinda of male models:

1. men who model clothing. these fuckers are tall and skinny with abs

2. men who model their bodies. these guys are not bodybuilder big, but probably juice and look "ripped muscular" as opposed to "lean"
 
Ruca said:
out of curiosity i found his weight on a couple of sites. he is listed at 6'2" and 188#. maybe skinny by bb or power lifter standards, but i would put $$ that there is not many hot girlies out there that would tell him that he is "too skinny"...haha

on another note....damn man from 190 to over 300....that is a huge difference!! is that natural older weight combined with lifting or have you straight up been gaining on purpose for years?

Yeah well those are the same hottie girls that would tell me I am too big so I don't pay any attention to them.LOL

Actually I dropped from 225 to 190 my freshman and sophomore years at college. I dropped from 205-190 for springbreak and then bounced right back up to 205 about a month later. Then I gradually built back up to 230 then 250 the 290. At 290 I got really sick and dropped to 265 before getting up to the current weight of 305. All in all it took nine years for all this to occur.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
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