maintaining gains after a cycle with supps and pct

[Mr-Equipoise]

hey after i took ur helpfull advices ill be starting this cycle next week its my second cycle

i had 1 deca cycle last year and lost everything i gained ( literarly everything) cz i did no PCT and no reasearches and no nutrition plan and did not workout good after the cycle wich makes sence and 3 oral cycles i kept half of their gains ... anw i dnt wanna repeat the same mistake so ... :

Week 1-12 : Eq 400mg/week
Week 1-12 :test cyp 500 mg/week
Week 1-10 : Deka 200mg/week
Week 3-16 : proviron
Week 1-12 : Vitamin b-12 250 mg/ed

i think the deca dosage should be 300 or 400 mgs but its my second cycle i dnt wanna fuck things up ...


PCT : clomid with theese supps :


EQ : 500 mg/week 12 weeks
test cyp : 500 mg/week 12 weeks
deca : 300 mg/week 10 weeks
proviron : week 1-16 havnt figured out the mgs yet
vitaminb-6 250 mg/ed week 1-16
pct : clomid and proviron
anw i was talking about adding supps 2 my pct and check this out and tell me what u think :

animal PM ( contains hgh booster wich is verry good after a cycle ) and helps 2 get good sleep wich is even better

animal stack : ( contains Tribulus wich is usually used as pct and increase the body natural production of hormones and test ) wich ill be needing for sure

animal pack ( vitamins )

cell tech ( creatine wich will help me keep some of the water gans from deca )
a whey proteine nitro tech maybe

no xplode ( pre workout supp will increase my power alot )no works for me alot gives me insane power wich i will defently need after a cycle

amino acid im only using them cz i got them for free

glutamine ill be adding it 2 my proteine shake ...

Pls advice me is there annything i should add ?? or maybe remove ...

i want to gain at leats 8 kilos ( i stoped working out 2 months ago cz of a back injury and lost 5kgs ) and i want to maintain every 0.1 kg i gain with my PCT and these supps ... am i asking 2 much ? u think it is possible ?? and 10x

 

[jcnuts]

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hey after i took ur helpfull advices ill be starting this cycle next week its my second cycle

i had 1 deca cycle last year and lost everything i gained ( literarly everything) cz i did no PCT and no reasearches and no nutrition plan and did not workout good after the cycle wich makes sence ... anw i dnt wanna repeat the same mistake so ... :

Week 1-12 : Eq 500mg/week
Week 1-12 :test cyp 500 mg/week
Week 1-10 : Deka 200mg/week
Week 3-16 : proviron
Week 1-12 : Vitamin b-12 250 mg/ed

i think the deca dosage should be 300 or 400 mgs but its my second cycle i dnt wanna fuck things up ...


PCT : clomid with theese supps :


EQ : 500 mg/week 12 weeks
test cyp : 500 mg/week 12 weeks
deca : 300 mg/week 10 weeks
proviron : week 1-16 havnt figured out the mgs yet
vitaminb-6 250 mg/ed week 1-16
pct : clomid and proviron
anw i was talking about adding supps 2 my pct and check this out and tell me what u think :

animal PM ( contains hgh wich is verry good after a cycle ) and helps 2 get good sleep wich is even better

animal stack : ( contains Tribulus wich is usually used as pct and increase the body natural production of hormones and test ) wich ill be needing for sure

animal pack ( vitamins )

cell tech ( creatine wich will help me keep some of the water gans from deca )
a whey proteine nitro tech maybe

no xplode ( pre workout supp will increase my power alot )no works for me alot gives me insane power wich i will defently need after a cycle

amino acid im only using them cz i got them for free

glutamine ill be adding it 2 my proteine shake ...

Pls advice me is there annything i should add ?? or maybe remove ...

i want to gain at leats 8 kilos ( i stoped working out 2 months ago cz of a back injury and lost 5kgs ) and i want to maintain every 0.1 kg i gain with my PCT and these supps ... am i asking 2 much ? u think it is possible ?? and 10x

Lets see where to start. First off Proviron in a PCT makes no sense so drop that. Animal PM doesn't contain HGH the only HGH is RDNA HGH which is injectible so drop that. Animal Stack with Tribulus you don't need that cause its not any good. You can keep the Animal Pak cause the vitamins are always good. CellTech is garbage and you don't want to keep water weight anyway cause you're looking for quality mass not water weight so drop that. NO Explode is so inferior to Jack3d and 1MR so that's your call but it sux. Amino acids are good you should use those all the time and the Glutamine. So we're left with Clomid and vitamins. Order some Forma or HCGenerate and use during cycle. Also order some Post Cycle and Unleashed and use with a low dose of Clomid for PCT and you'll be set. I would use the Forma through PCT as well but its up to you.

Sent from my EVO4G.

 

[jcnuts]

Also you may want to add a small dose of Adex during cycle just in case.

Sent from my EVO4G.

 

[Mr-Equipoise]

haha i thought i was a genius discovering all theese shit about supplements anw 10x for the advice ill keep that in mind so i will drop everrything and stay on animal pak , glutamine , amino and noXplode ( cant live without ot ) i tried jack3d , super pump .... everything nothin works for me like the no , and ill keep the animal pm cz i dont sleep easeley ... it could help ... the reason i am only taking clomid for pct is cause i cant get hcgenerate or forma ... is there anything similar 2 it that i can find in pharmacis ?

 

[Nelson Montana]

haha i thought i was a genius discovering all theese shit about supplements anw 10x for the advice ill keep that in mind so i will drop everrything and stay on animal pak , glutamine , amino and noXplode ( cant live without ot ) i tried jack3d , super pump .... everything nothin works for me like the no , and ill keep the animal pm cz i dont sleep easeley ... it could help ... the reason i am only taking clomid for pct is cause i cant get hcgenerate or forma ... is there anything similar 2 it that i can find in pharmacis ?

HCGen and Forma is best while on. What about UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE and BRIDGE? Why can't you get these supps? Clomid can make things worse.

 

[stevesmi]

you need anti-prolactin with deca.

also you need an AI during as well as hcgenerate to keep the nuts going.

for PCT you need hcg to kickstart things.. a natty test booster such as unleashed with post cycle.. maybe a light SERM thrown in and i do mean light

IMO for your 2nd cycle you should keep things simple.. you are running 4 difference AAS and its absolutely POINTLESS!! deca, eq, test, proviron. you don't need all that. you could run just test and proviron and have a sensational cycle and not have to worry about prolactin buildup and you would just need a few squirts of forma a day.

besides the deca and eq take a long time to build up in the system so running them 10 weeks and 12 weeks you are not gonna benefit with peak levels for very long. both compounds IMO should NOT be run by newbs for this reason. they are too damn long esters. learn the ABC's first to cycling and pct before running these overboard cycles. i've never run more than 800mgs a week of juice and never more than 2 compounds at a time. its just not necessary to gain !! you are running 1200 here plus proviron on top of that. its way overkill.

 

[Mr-Equipoise]

HCGen and Forma is best while on. What about UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE and BRIDGE? Why can't you get these supps? Clomid can make things worse.

i never bought anything online ... does they ship 2 lebanon ? and where can i prder them ?

 

[Mr-Equipoise]

you need anti-prolactin with deca.

also you need an AI during as well as hcgenerate to keep the nuts going.

for PCT you need hcg to kickstart things.. a natty test booster such as unleashed with post cycle.. maybe a light SERM thrown in and i do mean light

IMO for your 2nd cycle you should keep things simple.. you are running 4 difference AAS and its absolutely POINTLESS!! deca, eq, test, proviron. you don't need all that. you could run just test and proviron and have a sensational cycle and not have to worry about prolactin buildup and you would just need a few squirts of forma a day.

besides the deca and eq take a long time to build up in the system so running them 10 weeks and 12 weeks you are not gonna benefit with peak levels for very long. both compounds IMO should NOT be run by newbs for this reason. they are too damn long esters. learn the ABC's first to cycling and pct before running these overboard cycles. i've never run more than 800mgs a week of juice and never more than 2 compounds at a time. its just not necessary to gain !! you are running 1200 here plus proviron on top of that. its way overkill.

i started researching from about 2 months and thats the best thing i could reach ... since my first cycle was deca , test , winstrol and dianabol ( i know it is a verry bad idea for a first cycle but as i said be4 i had no expirience ... ) i cant just take test cyp it wont do anything + i did 3 oral cycles i ddnt mention them above ill edit it i forgot 2 write them and my reasearches says that it is the lowest doses of everything ...
lowest effective dose of test cyp : 500 mg and eq : 400 mg ill take 400 not 500 mg
and deca the lowest effective dosage of it is 200 mg/week 2
plz fix my info if i am wrong ... and 10x for your advice bro

 

[stevesmi]

go back and read what i wrote again, and again, and again. its all right there, every single question you asked is there.

and if you can't gain on test alone then your training and diet is messed up.. you are lebanese so your genetics are likely above average so no excuse. lay off the junk food and sweets.. and eat more fruits, veggies, good quality meats. lebanon has good food so you can't use that excuse on me, i've been there

 

[the_alcatraz]

i never bought anything online ... does they ship 2 lebanon ? and where can i prder them ?

Glad to have another Lebanese on board. Re-read what Steve said dude.