Lump IM in Pec..using 1 " PIN, how do I avoid this??

[bigmike777]

Hi everyone.....

I got a Small Ball/Knot/Lump in Pinned Site...which is my left PEC;

and now I also see a smaller lump on my right PEC another injection site.

(I know it'll go away, but what is that? how do I avoid it?)

I am 5'10" Tall at 208 pounds, 8 percent bodyfat.

(the other time this happened, it disappeared after like 5 days.)

Background info.

I use 400 mg/mL Test. Meaning 1 ml = 400 mgs. But I draw out .6 ML which comes out to roughly 250 mgs of Test @ 2x per week totalling 500 mgs/Test using a 1 inch needle.

I pin both pecs and both delts. (so I have 4 spots to alternate), GOING ALL THE WAY IN WITH THE 1 INCH NEEDLE AND WAITING 15 SEC'S BEFORE DRAWING OUT SO THE JUICE DOESN'T OOZE OUT AS MUCH FROM THE MUSCLE

(but still some oozes out which I guess, is unavoidable?)

I PIN (AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT A FULL LENGTH-MIRROR) AT 2 INCHES NORTH FROM THE NIPPLE, AND THE EXACT ENTRY POINT IS AT 11 O'CLOCK IN THE MIRROR'S OPPOSITE REFLECTION. (It's not upper and outer part of the chest).

I know it'll go away like i said, but it's annoying

It's annoying cos it's SORE and I won't be able to maximize (IMO) my chest workouts with a sore ball on my chest.

Is it something i should be worried about over the long term?

*Important Question repeated:

If this annoying ball happens too many times, can it lead to an abcess even though I am very careful in keeping gear & bod clean, & sterile?

Alternative Option:

I think I might have to Pin the Glutes cos I will later on not only pinning Test but also Deca -durabolin for joint relief/repair AND along with the Quads, it's a LARGE MUSCLE GROUP perfect for pinning concentrated gear like what im using.

ANOTHER QUESTION(s):

1) Are the glutes easy to aspirate ?

2) Is a 1.5 inch needle really necessary for a good IM GLUTE INJECTION?

3) On a similar topic, maybe a 1.5 inch needle is necessary for a Pec injection???

4) What's the probability of hitting a nerve in the Glute?

There should be no problem, if I hit the upper outer Glutes like almost near the hip, huh?

Anybody have a link with a good diagram (still photo) of an IM glute site?

I have well-developed upper outer pecs so I don't think it's a question of a small muscle being pinned which can be problematic like the Delt, but I maybe wrong cos it may be that the Pecs are in and of themselves inherently a small muscle group.

Any good advice or good effort would be appreciated.

I'M GETTING CONFLLICTING INFO. ON THE WEB:
***I'm getting conflicting info. on the web that says a Lump or a Knot is part of the Post Injection Pain and will go away in about 7 days.

--Also the conflicting info on the internet says "All the gear has been wasted sub-q.," while others on the web say "gear hasn't been wasted."

It just doesn't look cosmetically right. It looks like a pink mosquito bite on both of my pecs., but it's not warm to the touch, nor do I have a fever.

anybody have a good diagram (or a Link) of the good area to PIN in the Pecs & the Glutes?

I might have to PIN the upper & outer of the Pecs, but I notice that at the upper and outer pecs, which is closer to the shoulders, there are branches of veins which i def want to avoid.

Thanks again for any useful help...

 

[bigmike777]

....Also, please try to think if a 1 inch needle (which I have been using to pin the PECs IM with Tesosterone) is effective/good for the PECs? Or is the pec region like the glutes a really meaty part that requires a 1.5 inch needle?

I have a good-developed chest. It's not like I'm flat chested with almost no muscle yet. I can flagt bench 150 lbs with an olympic bar for 5 reps at 4 sets.

I really don't want to have to buy 1.5 inch needles. So I'm hoping 1.5 inch needles aren't needed for the Pec's but I need 2 confirm.

Again, just to remind you, I'm hitting my Pecs again with Concentrated Gear: 400 mgs/Test per 1 mL. But I draw out .6 which comes out to 250 mgs & I pin twice a week for, again, a total of 500 mgs/week, alternating 4 pin spots: left, right pec, left right delt.

i hope my questions and input are useful to others,

thanks again, bros!

 

[JoeBlob]

I didn't read the whole thing I will later but I've never pinned pecs so I'm not 100% sure, but oil shouldn't be oozing out. I'm assuming the lump is a buildup of oil outside the muscle, which is exactly what will happen if you use a 1" needle for glutes. I would absolutely pick up some 1.5" needles and pin glutes. Or you can use your 1" and pin outer quads. Very small chance to hit a nerve or anything in glute, quads are more susceptible. Why did you decide to pin pecs in the first place?? How old are you?

Edit: Wait...... did you say you can flat bench 150 lbs?

 

[bigmike777]

I didn't read the whole thing I will later but I've never pinned pecs so I'm not 100% sure, but oil shouldn't be oozing out. I'm assuming the lump is a buildup of oil outside the muscle, which is exactly what will happen if you use a 1" needle for glutes. I would absolutely pick up some 1.5" needles and pin glutes. Or you can use your 1" and pin outer quads. Very small chance to hit a nerve or anything in glute, quads are more susceptible. Why did you decide to pin pecs in the first place?? How old are you?

Edit: Wait...... did you say you can flat bench 150 lbs?

Thanks, for trying to help. You gave good advice.

I am 35. I decided to pin the pecs because it's the easiest area to aspirate.

*You can actually aspirate with 2 hands.

With the quads you can pin 2 hands, too, I guess. I haven't tried the quads, yet.

I actually pin a shallow part of the pecs towards the exact center point of the chest, but not quite.

Do you think I should pin more outer?

I don't think I've wasted the gear, at least not all.

I have to order 1.5 inch needles.

I think I will try 23 gauge, 1.5 inch needles.

Should I order the same gauge I ordered for 1 inch needles?

 

[iron_z]

I would just pin the outer portion of your quad (SpotInjections.com) and alternate legs.. You'll be good at your bf% with a one inch needle. Thats what I have been doing for the past 6 weeks and haven't had a problem. I don't see the point of going into the chest especially if you are experiencing some serious pip thats interfering with your lifts.

 

[bigmike777]

Thanks a lot. This is real useful information. I owe u one. i've copied and pasted the link and probably will print out the diagram on my printer. thanks a million!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

1.5" pins in glutes. Glutes are easy and safe. Learn to aspitate with one hand. Its not hard. Even in glutes. 23g are just as painless as 25g.

 

[iron_z]

Thanks a lot. This is real useful information. I owe u one. i've copied and pasted the link and probably will print out the diagram on my printer. thanks a million!

Glad it was helpful boss - Keep us posted on how it goes!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Edit: Wait...... did you say you can flat bench 150 lbs?

Exactly.....What the fuck? Trolling?

 

[stevesmi]

the ball you are getting is either an abcess or an internal bruise.

either way you need to learn better injection techniques (specifically how to pin DEEP INTO THE MUSCLE) and stay away from those spots for a while.