lump but not sore or itchy

[daville]

okay i had gyno when i was going through puberty. back then it really hurt, blah, blah, blah, all the symptoms. nips been slightly puffy since. this past week i noticed an eraser size lump under nip. its not sore not icthy or anything but it def wasnt there before. my cycle is test e 500/w, eq 400/w. 12 weeks of test and 10 eq. i decided to extend to 15 weeks and threw in var 50/ed on week 11 and extended to 15 weeks. right now on week 14. so, this lump doesnt bother me but i dont want it there either. should i take some letro or would just starting my nolva now do the trick? for pct i have 8000 hcg that im gonna plump up with right before i begin pct, 10mg nolva ed, PP test recovery, and unleashed will be my 4 weeks of pct. ok EF, give it to me...

 

[Mavafanculo]

1) the nolva has solid studys showing it reverses existing gyno lumps. I'll try to find my thread with the references and doses reccommended, but I belive it was :
60-80mg until it subsides,
20mg maintenence while on a cycle
(if someone could check these doses)


2) letro doesnt have the study's, but does have positive anecdotal buzz in the bodybuilding community for reversing incipient gyno

3) dont start the hcg without one of the above (or equivilent) since hcg aromatizes at a high rate and will make matters worse

 

[njmuscleguy]

A few comments:

Next time you run a long(er) cycle, 10+ weeks, consider running the HCG throughout the cycle...I've tried it all different ways and this seems to work the nicest, plus it's one less thing to take during PCT...you just jump right into it. Oh, and in your case, always run an AI throughout the cycle since you're predisposed to gyno.

I've been on the "ramping" method of Letro now for almost 2 weeks and *my* eraser-sized lump has gone down a decent amount. I would start it now, particularly because you're running test (that'll help off-set the libido crash). I'm thinking that for me, it'll take no more than 3-4 weeks total. If you can't search on here, the method goes something like this:

0.25 mg
0.5 mg
1.25 mg
2.5 mg (keep at this dosage until lump goes away)
1.25 mg
0.5 mg
0.25 mg (at this point you start nolvadex at low dosage to prevent estrogen rebound)

Personally, I hate nolva, so I'll be using Sustain in place of the Nolva. Good luck!

 

[daville]

A few comments:

Next time you run a long(er) cycle, 10+ weeks, consider running the HCG throughout the cycle...I've tried it all different ways and this seems to work the nicest, plus it's one less thing to take during PCT...you just jump right into it. Oh, and in your case, always run an AI throughout the cycle since you're predisposed to gyno.

I've been on the "ramping" method of Letro now for almost 2 weeks and *my* eraser-sized lump has gone down a decent amount. I would start it now, particularly because you're running test (that'll help off-set the libido crash). I'm thinking that for me, it'll take no more than 3-4 weeks total. If you can't search on here, the method goes something like this:

0.25 mg
0.5 mg
1.25 mg
2.5 mg (keep at this dosage until lump goes away)
1.25 mg
0.5 mg
0.25 mg (at this point you start nolvadex at low dosage to prevent estrogen rebound)

Personally, I hate nolva, so I'll be using Sustain in place of the Nolva. Good luck!

i really dont like nolva either. i also have clomid too. im gonna run the PP 2008 pct. maybe ill just use clomid 25/ed and say piss on the nolva. i figured i needed the letro. i had a terrible time getting my hands on HCG to run thrioughout but now its available again. thanks guys

 

[njmuscleguy]

i really dont like nolva either. i also have clomid too. im gonna run the PP 2008 pct. maybe ill just use clomid 25/ed and say piss on the nolva. i figured i needed the letro. i had a terrible time getting my hands on HCG to run thrioughout but now its available again. thanks guys

but you said you're already pretty much recovered? if so, no need to run a full PCT like that. your goal is to get rid of the gyno, so you need an AI. You can go with letro, but then you likely need something for estrogen rebound after that...instead of nolva, you can try sustain (that's what I'm doing now)... otherwise, you can go middle-of-the-road with aromasin...it's pretty strong and apparently has little to no estrogen rebound.

 

[daville]

but you said you're already pretty much recovered? if so, no need to run a full PCT like that. your goal is to get rid of the gyno, so you need an AI. You can go with letro, but then you likely need something for estrogen rebound after that...instead of nolva, you can try sustain (that's what I'm doing now)... otherwise, you can go middle-of-the-road with aromasin...it's pretty strong and apparently has little to no estrogen rebound.

no i never said pretty much recovered. im still on and comming to an end very soon. i still need a full PCT. so ur just running sustain for PCT?

 

[njmuscleguy]

no i never said pretty much recovered. im still on and comming to an end very soon. i still need a full PCT. so ur just running sustain for PCT?

ah, sorry... I misunderstood...how much do you have left to go on this cycle? if you're still on, I'd run the letro now, while you still have test in ya....will help off-set the libido crash a little. Then you can run PP's PCT.

I'm not on PCT, I'm just trying to get rid of a small lump after my last cycle. I am running letro now, just about done with it, then I'll switch over to Sustain to help with estrogen rebound and for overall good feeling.