Low energy

[fuggit]

Yo
I have been using AAS for the time since Jun (this run)
This is including test e/mast e 200/200
Until last week
Changed to test/eqi blend and tne
Dosing 600 mg weekly of the blend
50 eod tne
Man my energy levels are so low
I'm taking in bed 24/7 for a month
Been to gym 3× since September.
Ahsheet...
I would have loved to stay in bed 8 hrs a day last run.
Which was 2016
That run included lgd 4033 s4 and other SARMs in addition to the AAS I was taking
(Being varied from vendor to vendor).
My last week in the gym I had worked up to 10 miles a day (split am/pm (paranoid about gym members who were cops lol))
Aye guys the only other thing was a prescription opioid that was for opiate cessation.Since it EATS testosterone and I was adding so much do you think it is to blame for the extra energy, or the SARMs which I was injecting I.m.
Some feedback would be great other forums won't touch it.
I mean the AAS I am blasting is from reputable source(es) so quality is not an issue as physical gains are obvious but NO ENERGY.
lastly does anyone think Chinese raws are a culprit?


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[P0N]

If I read that right, you have been on cycle since June which is entirely too long. I would fully expect you to be lethargic and your myostatin is probably out of control.

 

[fuggit]

Yea bro?
So what to do outside PCT?
Can't really afford ancillary ATM just lost a job so....
Could I get away with lowered dosage to about 200/200 test/eq a week or 200/200 teste/maste a week?

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[P0N]

You should never start a cycle without having your PCT on hand as well. Ideally you should get off of it all and start a long PCT, but I guess you could drop everything completely except the test, and lower that to between 100 to 150mg (a trt dose) and let your myostatin levels come down. It's not a great or even good plan though since you're just making your HPTA recovery harder and harder the longer you stay on.

 

[fuggit]

So
You suggest HCG for pct
I Been running about 3 months

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[stevesmi]

run bloodwork, check my signature for how. you won't like the results and you will see exactly why you feel like death

this is why you should never follow these idiots on instagram and social media who treat steroids like no big deal and abuse them. they are grifters and i would love to see their bloods too

 

[P0N]

So
You suggest HCG for pct
I Been running about 3 months

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Never run HCG in PCT. HCG is never necessary, but if you want to use it, only use it in the last four weeks of your cycle. Your PCT should be based around clomid and nolvadex. Check the PCT sticky for details.

 

[dylangemelli]

hcg? man seriously, why so damn wreckless? you dont have a clue what you are doing and dont even have the ancillaries you need... i mean, why would you start a cycle without a plan? without having everything you need?

 

[SteveMobsterG]

Yea bro?
So what to do outside PCT?
Can't really afford ancillary ATM just lost a job so....
Could I get away with lowered dosage to about 200/200 test/eq a week or 200/200 teste/maste a week?

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You can afford five months of steroids but not an AI. Sell what's left. Buy an AI.

 

[Jacksteel]

So you’ve been on cycle since June. Have only worked out 3 times in a month. You’re taking tren. Your lethargic to the point of never getting out of bed. You’ve been injecting sarms intramuscularly and you’re wondering why you feel like shit??? Do I have that right?


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[Jacksteel]

Also opioids don’t eat testosterone. But you should t be taking them on cycle with tren either. Lol come on dude, opioids will keep you lethargic!!! You shouldn’t be using steroids man. You have no idea what you’re doing bro.


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[fuggit]

Also opioids don’t eat testosterone. But you should t be taking them on cycle with tren either. Lol come on dude, opioids will keep you lethargic!!! You shouldn’t be using steroids man. You have no idea what you’re doing bro.


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Nah nah I must've typo.
Been off opioids since 2018.

But as this ncbi article suggests....
Methadone induces testosterone suppression in patients with opioid addiction

Monica Bawor, Brittany B. Dennis, [...], and Zainab Samaan

Additional article information

Abstract

Sex hormones may have a role in the pathophysiology of substance use disorders, as demonstrated by the association between testosterone and addictive behaviour in opioid dependence. Although opioid use has been found to suppress testosterone levels in men and women, the extent of this effect and how it relates to methadone treatment for opioid dependence is unclear. The present multi-centre cross-sectional study consecutively recruited 231 patients with opioid dependence from methadone clinics across Ontario, Canada between June and December of 2011. We obtained demographic details, substance use, psychiatric history, and blood and urine samples from enrolled subjects. The control group included 783 non-opioid using adults recruited from a primary care setting in Ontario, Canada. Average testosterone level in men receiving methadone treatment was significantly lower than controls. No effect of opioids including methadone on testosterone level in women was found and testosterone did not fluctuate significantly between menstrual cycle phases. In methadone patients, testosterone level was significantly associated with methadone dose in men only. We recommend that testosterone levels be checked in men prior and during methadone and other opioid therapy, in order to detect and treat testosterone deficiency associated with opioids and lead to successful methadone treatment outcomes.

Opioid dependence has previously been observed in men1,2, however the increased prevalence of prescription opioid drug abuse has led to an increase in opioid use and dependence in women3. This trend has sparked interest in the sex-related aspects of the disorder. To date, sex differences have been reported in many aspects of opioid dependence and treatment4,5,6,7,8,9,10leading to the need for separate addiction treatment profiles for men and women.

Sex hormones are often studied as the biological basis for sex differences due to their role in central nervous system regulation, implicating the endocrine system in the pathophysiology of substance use disorders and addictive behaviour11. The emerging research on sex hormones in addiction has shed light on the association between testosterone and specific addictive behaviours in men and women, including impulsivity, aggression, risk-taking, and sensation-seeking12,13. This provides evidence for the importance of testosterone in substance use disorders including opioid dependence.

Reviews of the literature on testosterone in chronic opioid use report an opioid-induced deficiency in androgen function14,15,16, significantly lower than normative levels of testosterone seen in the clinical literature (average range: 300–1000 ng/dL or 10–35 nmol/L for men and 20–85 ng/dL or 0.7–3 nmol/L for women)17. Opioids exert inhibitory effects on the hypothalamus, the area responsible for production of gonadotropin-releasing-hormone (GnRH). GnRH normally acts on the pituitary gland to stimulate the release of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH); when GnRH is inhibited, this leads to low LH and FSH causing suppression of sex hormone secretion from the gonads18. Although these findings are supported in samples of men, levels of sex hormones including testosterone in opioid-dependent women have not been extensively studied to date19. Due to the increase of chronic opioid use in women, a re-examination of the literature is necessary.



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[fuggit]

Aye
Btw
Got my sleep turned around....
Now sleeping at night
Getting up at 8 am
Probably need a training partner as well.
Is it possible I'm just a PTSD case,
Complete skull fuck.
Oh this gear is fiyah.

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[cbbram]

You just need to stop the train wreck ASAP!

 

[RickRock13]

So you’ve been on cycle since June. Have only worked out 3 times in a month. You’re taking tren. Your lethargic to the point of never getting out of bed. You’ve been injecting sarms intramuscularly and you’re wondering why you feel like shit??? Do I have that right?


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Sounds like it

 

[Jacksteel]

Aye
Btw
Got my sleep turned around....
Now sleeping at night
Getting up at 8 am
Probably need a training partner as well.
Is it possible I'm just a PTSD case,
Complete skull fuck.
Oh this gear is fiyah.

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Why would you assume PTSD?? Do you have PTSD? No this is not why you feel bad. It’s because you have done some really off the wall and wrong things in your cycle. You haven’t done nearly enough research and just the fact that you’re injecting sarms is close to idiotic bro. Are you seriously injecting sarms or are you trolling?


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[Jacksteel]

You are injecting your hormones exogenously so no the opioids aren’t Messi g with your test. That’s referring to your natural testosterone and even then I wouldn’t use the word “eat”. If anything eats test it’s statin drugs. Anyway, you really need to come off and pct. you are going to hurt yourself.


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