Looking to get back into lifting and getting healthy

[ComputerGeek]

First off, let me say that I have lurked on this site for awhile before signing up, and continued to read even more after signing up this past week. So, I just wanted to say 'Hi' and perhaps get some advice from some of you, perhaps a few have even had similar lives or experiences.

Age: 30
Height: 6ft
Weight: 280 lbs (was 295 lbs 2 wks ago)

Background:
In high school I weighed around 190 lbs with a 32-34" waist - fairly athletic skinny build. I hovered around there until I was in a bad car accident and I ballooned up to around 265-270lbs and a 38" (jeans) waist.

I stayed that size for a few years, ate pretty poorly and drank a lot of beer. Well, my friend got me into lifting some weights and exercising again. Except this time I wanted to bulk up so I decided to give the HIT weight lifting methodology a try (reverse pyramid). My friend let me try some andro (kind of popular then) and I don't know if it really did anything (stopped after 3 months), but after 1.5 years I was back to a 34" pant waist and weighed 230 lbs.

3 years later I am married, kid on the way, wife is in school full time, I am finishing up school and working full time. Suddenly, I don't have time to exercise anymore, or atleast that was my excuse at the time. So over the last 5 years I ballooned up to 295lbs with a 42" pant waist. Sad.

So -- enough was enough and I am finding time to exercise. Over the last 2 weeks I have turned my diet completely around, started exercising and lifting some. So far I have dropped around 15lbs and almost one full pant size. I can still bench 290 7 times and do arm curls with 50lbs dumbells. I've lost some strength, but not to bad for having so much time off.

Recommendations:
Should I continue to just do mostly cardio to try and burn fat and raise my metabolism again? Or should I also throw in some heavy weight lifting as well with some some sort of stack like sust/winst?

Currently, I have been doing 50mins of cardio 6 days a week and just some moderate weight lifting here and there. I would like to toss in some cycles at some point and go for gaining some decent mass. At what point should I really do that?

I am currently researching looking at the dbol, Test/Tren E, dronabol ds, sust/winst. Any advice on any of these? I think it pretty much comes down to personal choice and body chemistry, I am listening.

I have never used gear before, but looking to out do the work I did last time in the gym.

Thanks for listening to my obviously long introduction.

 

[jumpshot]

response 1: do what you want to do, you're going to do it anyway

response2: lean out and maximize natural gains and goals first before juicing

response3: run this or that cycle blah blah blah

you'll get a range of responses to that, I like to say door #2 and do what you can naturally for as long as it takes to plateau, then consider gear. juice won't cut down the time it takes to get where you want to go in your state. gotta put in the time and sweat it out bro.

 

[medical]

You lost 15# in 2 weeks? Don't do that. Trust me.

 

[ortiz34]

No sauce just yet bro. Your too heavy and in poor condition to be putting that kind of stress on your heart and lipids. Keep going with what you are doing bro, gear will only bloat you up more, you'll come off and quite possibly could crash and be back to square one. Drop another 70 lbs or more and then consider AAS. I know this is probably what you don't want to hear, but I am genuinly trying to help you out. Last but not least, Winstrol will not have and fat burning affects. Many amatuers tend to think this for some odd reason. School, a wife, job, kid, they are all tough to deal with when trying to get on track, stay strong. Also, try eating 4-6 smaller meals throughout the day.

Go get some Sesapure and Glucorell from the AF STORE.

 

[ComputerGeek]

Jumpshot: Thanks for your thoughts, that is kind of what I am thinking at the moment. I basically sweated it out last time and had some good gains, but if there is somethign to help accelerate the process, then I am game too.

Medical: Well I am guess the weight loss is coming off fast due to mostly water retention. I was drinking a lot of beer during the week, eating fast food, sitting in front of a computer all day, etc. I think the weight loss will slow down quite a bit soon.

 

[medical]

Jumpshot: Thanks for your thoughts, that is kind of what I am thinking at the moment. I basically sweated it out last time and had some good gains, but if there is somethign to help accelerate the process, then I am game too.

Medical: Well I am guess the weight loss is coming off fast due to mostly water retention. I was drinking a lot of beer during the week, eating fast food, sitting in front of a computer all day, etc. I think the weight loss will slow down quite a bit soon.

OK...just be careful. That is too much to lose that fast. I know, I did almost the same thing. It is not a good idea.

 

[jumpshot]

there is something to accelerate the process...it's called HIIT, do a search on EF for it.

 

[atlantaholdem]

I can relate because my story is pretty close to yours. I'm also in the computer field and let my health slip. Two months ago, I was 235lbs, body fat around 25%. Since that time, I started eating six healthy meals a day, around 1600 calories total per day. One cheat meal per week. I work out six days a week, 3 cardio intervals, 3 full body strength workouts, specifically Bill Stars 5X5.
Currently, I'm 220lbs, leaner and a hell of a lot stronger.

I want to get my body fat down to about 15% before I even consider a cycle. I know it sounds tempting to think that there is a magic pill or cycle that will get you results fast but if you really think about, not getting your ass in the gym over the last three years has got you to where you are. Believe me, I had to have that little honesty talk with myself, too. My thoughts now are, I want to see how big I can get naturally first. I have terrible genetics so I have to work like hell for every pound to lift and every pound to lose. It's hard work but I've never felt better.

I'm of the mindset that you need to use AS enhance a solid physic rather than create it from scratch. You're not wasting time. I takes a little bit of patience but the payoff is the weight training and diet knowledge that will help you if you decide to take a cycle in the future. Let me know if you need any help or advice. I'm not where I want to be either but I know I'm getting there.

Hope that helps you. Good luck in your journey.

 

[20ss02]

I would get some Thermorexin, Sesapure and Glucorell from the AF Store. Get back into a good lifting routine, and keep up the AM cardio. Do this and keep your diet clean and you'll get back into decent shape more quickly than you think. Good luck!