Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I'm actually looking for a OTC Pro Hormone That will not require PCT, Or convert into estrogen. Does that even exist? I just want a product that I can take for example for 4 weeks and not have to worry about anything besides cycle support. Reason being I will be going to bootcamp and will not be able to administer proper PCT. If you can help me out I would appreciate it, Thanks
Looking for a Pro Hormone that requires no PCT?
- Thread starter charliel
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What are your goals?
Perhaps you can achieve them without using pro-hormones?
Pro-hormones are aas and require PCT.
How old are you?
Perhaps you can achieve them without using pro-hormones?
Pro-hormones are aas and require PCT.
How old are you?
charliel said:
Check out this product bro:
Xplosive Burn
http://www.proteabody.com/product_info.php?products_id=40
Great product to aid in fat loss, help with mental focus in the gym and outside the gym and gives you energy as well. You will like it!
Also, get your diet in check....
There are a few other products that you can stack with the above:
Lean Fast
http://www.proteabody.com/product_info.php?products_id=39
It includes CLA and L-Carnitine and other active ingredients to help aid in fatloss.....getting shredded will become easy when you add these supplements into your diet!!!!
the_alcatraz said:
That seems interesting I'll check it out. I was just looking for something i can actually feel as far as strength. I'm actually taking anadrox and creatine. but after going to the darkside in the past. it feels like these supps are a joke or something. that why i was looking for a prohormone? without the pct due to my situation.
I don't feel like you can get away with using a pro-hormone without PCT...
The above products will work though...also make sure you have your diet in check, it's very important!
Talk to Donnie Darko about the above products and see if he can get you a discount on them....
Once you have that covered, let me know what you're taking and I'll propose a good diet for you....
The above products will work though...also make sure you have your diet in check, it's very important!
Talk to Donnie Darko about the above products and see if he can get you a discount on them....
Once you have that covered, let me know what you're taking and I'll propose a good diet for you....
10001110101
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to be honest any ph you run that you could run at dosages that won't require pct won't be any more effective than creatine, probably less.
the_alcatraz said:
gotcha. Is there anything else that is not a prohormone thats effective for strength and muscle gains. I'm actually also taking nanox9 hardcore. I know alot of people hate muscletech but i just wanted to try it out. got it for $50 bucks which is reasonable. Maybe something like halodrol liquigels or something of that nature? that doesnt require a serm? do any of those products really work?
Bro, all the advertised brands on EF have products that WORK!!!!
Here are some people you can speak with for more details: OMEGA, Primordial Performance, Donni Darko, Just Add Muscle and others....
I'd suggest the products I gave you in the above threads.....
They are price effective and you wont lose anything by trying them out.....keep us posted!
Here are some people you can speak with for more details: OMEGA, Primordial Performance, Donni Darko, Just Add Muscle and others....
I'd suggest the products I gave you in the above threads.....
They are price effective and you wont lose anything by trying them out.....keep us posted!
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
the_alcatraz said:
I agree 100%.
zeplin7464
New member
a prohormone like the new halodrol liquigels are is a pro hormone by gaspari nutrion, and u probably would need no pct. if anything gaspari also makes a pct product for pro hormones calledr novedex XT. its an AI u can get without prescription just like the prohormones you can get egally at gnc etc... personally ive done a really good legal stack; it consisted of super pump 250, kre-alkalyne(ph buffered creatine), the haladrol 50(now haladrol liquigels), and the novedex xt. it did wonders for my stregnth and i retained most of my size w/no side effects
You'll get better results from stacking UNLEASHED,BIG BLAST and VIGOR. And you won't need PCT.
J
Just Add Muscle
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zeplin7464 said:
The new Gaspari Halodrol's are crap,they are just a knock off of the original Halodrol 50 witch would definitely need a PCT.Like all others have said anything that is a PH will nned a PCT.You can use a tribulus product like our TZ3 by sci-fit or CMI's anabolic signal witch also stimulates gh production.It has some very good cutting edge ingredients.
There is no such thing as an OTC prohormone. PHs were outlawed a couple years ago, so anything, or anyone claiming to sell PH OTC, well, look real close at the ingredients. I dont know of anything you can take OTC that would require a PCT. And if there was, it is probably a waste of $$.
Ethyl esterfied creatine is as close as you are going to get for noticable gains in strength and size without use of pct, and there are other products out these days that will give you the gains you desire without pct, alot of which are promoted on this site. This is the only board that has sponsors who actually tell you exactly what you are getting for your money, and the products are of great quality. Primordial performance has some great products and also info on how to use them in conjunction with other products for optimal gains.
Good luck in bootcamp bro. Which branch of service?
Ethyl esterfied creatine is as close as you are going to get for noticable gains in strength and size without use of pct, and there are other products out these days that will give you the gains you desire without pct, alot of which are promoted on this site. This is the only board that has sponsors who actually tell you exactly what you are getting for your money, and the products are of great quality. Primordial performance has some great products and also info on how to use them in conjunction with other products for optimal gains.
Good luck in bootcamp bro. Which branch of service?
charliel said:
J
Just Add Muscle
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nickster#1 said:
The products out now are actually a lot stronger than the prohormones that were banned and give much better results with less side effects.
E
EarthRider
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I really liked T-Bomb from MHP which is a great company.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/t2.html
Here is some info. I took it and had great results. No bad sides and I noticed my test levels did come up. Give it a try. Took it 4 months ago and no sides, and I did no PCT. Just kept my diet in check.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/t2.html
Here is some info. I took it and had great results. No bad sides and I noticed my test levels did come up. Give it a try. Took it 4 months ago and no sides, and I did no PCT. Just kept my diet in check.
I kinda thought maybe that was the ticket, just wasnt too sure. I never messed with prohormones that much, and no need to now. I am interested now that you mention it though. I will look into the differant products available. I am old school, did my share of aas, and a firm believer in peptides. Do me a favor and send me a pm sending me in the right direction. I would consider doing some new products. But need to know about them first. I do know about a few products, but enlighten me bro.
Just Add Muscle said:
steelydanman
New member
look up jungle warfare. You don't need a pct and it will give you some gains
Phyto-Testosterone is a great non-hormone anabolic that doesn’t require a PCT -
Phyto-Testosterone - A natural anabolic fenugreek formula w/ real Testofen
Just like the others said… if you are going to use a pro-hormone you should run a PCT.
-Eric
Phyto-Testosterone - A natural anabolic fenugreek formula w/ real Testofen
Just like the others said… if you are going to use a pro-hormone you should run a PCT.
-Eric
aquatic_glories
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bro IOC-tested athletes can also use this without a problem, right??
needtogetaas
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pm me for a discount
Elementality
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If you're going to boot camp I'd reccommend staying away from steroids period ;P. You don't want to be big and strong, you want to be light weight and quick with a lot of endurance.
You don't need huge arms, be able to squat 400 pounds and bench 2x your body weight to fire an m16 and run miles all day long.
You don't need huge arms, be able to squat 400 pounds and bench 2x your body weight to fire an m16 and run miles all day long.
