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Mr.X
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Usnic Acid is an active ingredient of the product. It "mimics" some effects of DNP.
http://usasports-supp.com/orderform.html
or
http://www.easycart.com/cgi-bin/certifiednutrition/search.cgi
http://usasports-supp.com/orderform.html
or
http://www.easycart.com/cgi-bin/certifiednutrition/search.cgi
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Mr.X
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WARNING: -DNP SHOULD NOT BE USED BY THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE: IDIOTS/PEOPLE WITH LOW IQ/OR PEOPLE THAT CANNOT READ A SCALE
-DO NOT USE DNP UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING...PERIOD...IT IS DEADLY....YOU WILL DIE IN A MATTER OF MINUTES BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN WILL FRY!!
-MORE IS NOT!!! BETTER WITH DNP...MORE CAN KILL YOU!!
DNP
DescriptionDNP was originally made as a replacement detenating compound in TNT. When used in humans, however, DNP will raise body tempeture by interfering with mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation. The way that this is accomplished in the body is that DNP diverts fatty acids away from ATP production and throws them off as heat instead. Aspirin, clenbuterol, and ephedrine all do the same thing but to a much lower extent. This is why you feel your body tempeture rising when using these compounds. DNP was used as a fat loss diet drug in the 1930's. There was a 1% incidence of users developing cataracts though and since DNP was not listed as one of the ingredients in these dieting drugs, they were pulled from the market. The thing that makes DNP so alluring to most bodybuilders is that it will boost your metabolism like no other drug out there. With even a low dosage, in the area of 3-5 mg/kg of bodyweight a day, it will rate your metabolic rate 30%. If this dosage is continued daily, it will raise your metabolism by 50%. At this rate you can burn about 1 lb. of fat a day. This product is very dangerous to use though. An overdose of only 4 times the recommended one will kill you. As far as this product raising your body tempeture, it can raise it indefinitely as well. You can die or suffer brain damage after your body tempeture goes over 104 degrees. DNP can raise your tempeture much higher than that as well. If brain damage and death are not bad enough side effects to you, you can also suffer irreversible liver damage and/or kidney damage as well without even an overdose while using this product if you stay on it for too long. DNP is known for cutting down on T4 to T3 conversion in the liver. For a person that is highly active and on a calorie restricted diet, DNP will deplete ATP within a matter of days. When this happens your body tempeture will go back to normal. The only thing you can do at this point is supplement with Cytomel (see that page on more information) in the dosage area of about 150 mcg/day. This product is only sold as a research chemical. DNP can be used as an insecticide so that can be a reason for purchasing it if someone asks you. Effective DoseFor overweight individuals with a bodyfat level over 15% the recommended dosage is between 3 - 5 mg/kg of bodyweight. For non-obese individuals with a bodyfat level less than 15%, the recommended dosage is between 5 - 8 mg/kg of bodyweight. In practical terms, a 200 lb. bodybuilder would need a dosage at 8 mg/kg of bodyweight of 728 mg/day. Keep in mind though that a dosage of 4 times this will kill you about 50% of the time. This is a very high, only 4 times the recommended dosage. This makes DNP a very deadly substance to fuck with. Probably the most deadly thing a bodybuilder can take.
-DO NOT USE DNP UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING...PERIOD...IT IS DEADLY....YOU WILL DIE IN A MATTER OF MINUTES BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN WILL FRY!!
-MORE IS NOT!!! BETTER WITH DNP...MORE CAN KILL YOU!!
DNP
DescriptionDNP was originally made as a replacement detenating compound in TNT. When used in humans, however, DNP will raise body tempeture by interfering with mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation. The way that this is accomplished in the body is that DNP diverts fatty acids away from ATP production and throws them off as heat instead. Aspirin, clenbuterol, and ephedrine all do the same thing but to a much lower extent. This is why you feel your body tempeture rising when using these compounds. DNP was used as a fat loss diet drug in the 1930's. There was a 1% incidence of users developing cataracts though and since DNP was not listed as one of the ingredients in these dieting drugs, they were pulled from the market. The thing that makes DNP so alluring to most bodybuilders is that it will boost your metabolism like no other drug out there. With even a low dosage, in the area of 3-5 mg/kg of bodyweight a day, it will rate your metabolic rate 30%. If this dosage is continued daily, it will raise your metabolism by 50%. At this rate you can burn about 1 lb. of fat a day. This product is very dangerous to use though. An overdose of only 4 times the recommended one will kill you. As far as this product raising your body tempeture, it can raise it indefinitely as well. You can die or suffer brain damage after your body tempeture goes over 104 degrees. DNP can raise your tempeture much higher than that as well. If brain damage and death are not bad enough side effects to you, you can also suffer irreversible liver damage and/or kidney damage as well without even an overdose while using this product if you stay on it for too long. DNP is known for cutting down on T4 to T3 conversion in the liver. For a person that is highly active and on a calorie restricted diet, DNP will deplete ATP within a matter of days. When this happens your body tempeture will go back to normal. The only thing you can do at this point is supplement with Cytomel (see that page on more information) in the dosage area of about 150 mcg/day. This product is only sold as a research chemical. DNP can be used as an insecticide so that can be a reason for purchasing it if someone asks you. Effective DoseFor overweight individuals with a bodyfat level over 15% the recommended dosage is between 3 - 5 mg/kg of bodyweight. For non-obese individuals with a bodyfat level less than 15%, the recommended dosage is between 5 - 8 mg/kg of bodyweight. In practical terms, a 200 lb. bodybuilder would need a dosage at 8 mg/kg of bodyweight of 728 mg/day. Keep in mind though that a dosage of 4 times this will kill you about 50% of the time. This is a very high, only 4 times the recommended dosage. This makes DNP a very deadly substance to fuck with. Probably the most deadly thing a bodybuilder can take.
lipo site
another site to by lipokinetix from is
http://www.supoutlet.com/syntrax.html
they are pretty cheap too (as far as lipokinetix goes) and the shipping is low.
Sylvia
another site to by lipokinetix from is
http://www.supoutlet.com/syntrax.html
they are pretty cheap too (as far as lipokinetix goes) and the shipping is low.
Sylvia
cozmokramer
New member
mr x.... great info....
lipokinetix is a great product... I have used it to greatly
reduce my bodyfat... but its a very strong product that
can have a lot of side effects if not taken properly...
also... dosage really varies per individual... do not start
out with the doses on the bottle!
lipokinetix is a great product... I have used it to greatly
reduce my bodyfat... but its a very strong product that
can have a lot of side effects if not taken properly...
also... dosage really varies per individual... do not start
out with the doses on the bottle!
M
Mr.X
Guest
I only experimented with Lipo. a few times. The side-effects were awfully bad. But, I'd like to hear cozmokramer on this topic. He seems to have used it in way more occasions then me. Keep in mind, I don't recommend this product to people ....period...Because, Usnic Acid can be dangerous to your health. Look at some studies done on it and you'll see where I'm coming from.
Mr.X
Mr.X
i am currently on my third day using lipokinetix and it does come with some pretty nasty side effects:
- clammy/sweaty palms
- runny nose
- fatigue
- hot and cold feeling simultaneously
workouts have been a bitch this week - cardio has been alright but weightlifting has been difficult - i have been getting worn out very easily
as for fat loss >> i am using it because i am pretty well ripped but i still have a few area's that have been giving me trouble (gut and lower pecs) - I have used Xenadrine before with decent results but after a few weeks it loses its effectiveness (for me).
i'll keep you all posted on the results - again - i am pretty ripped as it is so any addition loss in bodyfat will be noticed - if i don't see any results from this product within a week or so i plan on discontinuing its usage
cosmo is right - DO NOT start with the recommended dosage - the first pill i took came on pretty strong -
- clammy/sweaty palms
- runny nose
- fatigue
- hot and cold feeling simultaneously
workouts have been a bitch this week - cardio has been alright but weightlifting has been difficult - i have been getting worn out very easily
as for fat loss >> i am using it because i am pretty well ripped but i still have a few area's that have been giving me trouble (gut and lower pecs) - I have used Xenadrine before with decent results but after a few weeks it loses its effectiveness (for me).
i'll keep you all posted on the results - again - i am pretty ripped as it is so any addition loss in bodyfat will be noticed - if i don't see any results from this product within a week or so i plan on discontinuing its usage
cosmo is right - DO NOT start with the recommended dosage - the first pill i took came on pretty strong -
cozmokramer
New member
ok... Here is the deal...
ON MULTIPLE occassions... LIPOKINETIX has pushed me to
a 104 fever... thats right 104...
it also caused my skin to break out into RED SPOTS
absolutely everywhere... I actually thought I had
chicken pox... this has happened MULTIPLE TIMES so I
do in fact know that it was from the LIPOKINETIX.
i am not the only one... after much research I have
found others with the same reactions from taking the
product.
I WILL SAY THAT THIS PRODUCT WORKS WONDERS FOR FAT
BURNING... DO NOT COMBINE THIS PRODUCT WITH A LOW
CARB DIET AS IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE SIDE EFFECTS ARE
DRASTICALLY INCREASED!
I have been taking this product for quite some time
with some experimentation on doses... please feel free
to ask any questions!
ON MULTIPLE occassions... LIPOKINETIX has pushed me to
a 104 fever... thats right 104...
it also caused my skin to break out into RED SPOTS
absolutely everywhere... I actually thought I had
chicken pox... this has happened MULTIPLE TIMES so I
do in fact know that it was from the LIPOKINETIX.
i am not the only one... after much research I have
found others with the same reactions from taking the
product.
I WILL SAY THAT THIS PRODUCT WORKS WONDERS FOR FAT
BURNING... DO NOT COMBINE THIS PRODUCT WITH A LOW
CARB DIET AS IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE SIDE EFFECTS ARE
DRASTICALLY INCREASED!
I have been taking this product for quite some time
with some experimentation on doses... please feel free
to ask any questions!
That's never happened to me on lipo. I've done 4 cycles of the stuff, and the only sides have been:
-fatigue
-sweating
-crappy workouts.
The stuff's amazing. Syntrax says they make be putting out another usinic acid product at some point; we can only hope...
In the meantime... Doesn't Lipoburn use usinic acid as well?
-fatigue
-sweating
-crappy workouts.
The stuff's amazing. Syntrax says they make be putting out another usinic acid product at some point; we can only hope...
In the meantime... Doesn't Lipoburn use usinic acid as well?
cozmokramer said:
What does your diet look like when you take lipo? How long before you start seeing results? Why does it make you workouts so crapy? Thanks for the info, i have bottle sitting at home and i am debating whether or not to take it. I am on an EQ and Winny cycle and if i could burn a little more fat i would be in business i am at 13%bf. Want to get down around 10. I am trying to put together a better diet
my cutting diet
Do you find ECA as a better overall choice than Lipokenetics?
Thanks You very much for you help it is very appreciated.
M56M
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MonStar1023
New member
dosage for LIPOKINETIX
I am ordering a bottle of Lipokinetix today and I was wondering first of all how you recommend me starting the supplement like dosage wise? I am assuming the dosage is similar to Adipokinetix and I took that 2 capsules, twice a day with good results. I am around 225 lbs. so I might need a dosage a bit higher then a 115 lbs. female. I am thinking about taking 1 capsule twice daily for a week or so and see what happens with that.
Anyway what kind of results did you get while on Lipokinetix? I mean considering all the side-effects people are forcing themselves through I am guessing Lipokinetix is a LOT better than its rivalry products (Xenadrine, Hydroxycut, Ripped Fuel, Metabolift, etc.) but how much better is it really? I read in one of these threads to eat a LOT of light meals because Lipokinetix burns off of your bodyheat and you need more calories... is this a valid statement or no? Also from what I understand you need a LOT more H2O to support workouts with Lipokinetix because of all the excess sweating... what about creatine + glutamine while on Lipokinetix? What about muscle loss? Please REPLY ASAP
I am ordering a bottle of Lipokinetix today and I was wondering first of all how you recommend me starting the supplement like dosage wise? I am assuming the dosage is similar to Adipokinetix and I took that 2 capsules, twice a day with good results. I am around 225 lbs. so I might need a dosage a bit higher then a 115 lbs. female. I am thinking about taking 1 capsule twice daily for a week or so and see what happens with that.
Anyway what kind of results did you get while on Lipokinetix? I mean considering all the side-effects people are forcing themselves through I am guessing Lipokinetix is a LOT better than its rivalry products (Xenadrine, Hydroxycut, Ripped Fuel, Metabolift, etc.) but how much better is it really? I read in one of these threads to eat a LOT of light meals because Lipokinetix burns off of your bodyheat and you need more calories... is this a valid statement or no? Also from what I understand you need a LOT more H2O to support workouts with Lipokinetix because of all the excess sweating... what about creatine + glutamine while on Lipokinetix? What about muscle loss? Please REPLY ASAP
MonStar1023
New member
Could someone PLEASE reply to my questions earlier and M56M's questions as well. PLEASE REPLY ASAP Thanks for all that have replied so far!
Every time I used it, I was eating at about a 750 calorie a day deficit. I lost about 3 pounds a week, 2.5 pounds fat, .5 pounds muscle, judging from body compositions. I cycled it on and off with regular ECAs week to week, because my workouts suffered quite a bit on the stuff. Even when I used it, I would take two conventional fat burners before morning workouts (adipokinetix or ripped fuel extreme), and two doses of 2 lipoK capsules at even intervals during the day. On non-workout days, 1 lipo in the AM, 2 at noon, 2 in the evening. (As close to the midpoint between meals as possible)
I had no trouble sleeping on the stuff, and I drank about 1.5 gallons of water a day.
Does that help?
I had no trouble sleeping on the stuff, and I drank about 1.5 gallons of water a day.
Does that help?
It helps alot, i was considering on doing the same thing. Today I workout in the morning and I tried to use it before my workout, but it didn't help at all, I FELT LIKE SHIT. I am going to take exandrine in the morning(to give me an edge in the gym), then follow up with lipo before lunch and then one more before my jog at night. I will probably do the same on weekends, since i don't have to work.
What do you think would be better and ECA or an Exandrine before the gym?
Thanks alot for you help.
M56M
What do you think would be better and ECA or an Exandrine before the gym?
Thanks alot for you help.
M56M
MonStar1023
New member
I am thinking about taking Lipokinetix maybe 2 days on, then 2 days off or something along those lines. I am working out twice a day, 6 times per week, so I will probably be taking 2 before each workout for 2 days, then take a regular ECA for 2 days before each workout as well. That seems to be the best approach for me I dont know. I dont think I will be able to handle it every single day. This will probaby be how I will take it..
Sun> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Mon> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Tues> ECA 2x a day
Wed> ECA 2x a day
Thurs> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Fri> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Sat> ECA or lay-off from ephedrine (Phen-Free maybe)
Would anyone suggest a different approach or no? I am just trying to rip up more while on training on Serious Growth. I will be taking in moderate carbs, high-protein, moderate fat, etc. Hopefully everything will work out all right taking Lipokinetix. I usually can force myself to train hard in the gym no matter what so I dont think Lipokinetix will effect me that much.
Sun> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Mon> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Tues> ECA 2x a day
Wed> ECA 2x a day
Thurs> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Fri> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Sat> ECA or lay-off from ephedrine (Phen-Free maybe)
Would anyone suggest a different approach or no? I am just trying to rip up more while on training on Serious Growth. I will be taking in moderate carbs, high-protein, moderate fat, etc. Hopefully everything will work out all right taking Lipokinetix. I usually can force myself to train hard in the gym no matter what so I dont think Lipokinetix will effect me that much.
M56M- did you mean Xenadrine? Xen. IS an ECA, so that's a great choice. Lipo, for me, decreases energy, so it'll never give you a boost. If you take one before your job, make sure you're eating a reasonable amount of carbs, and drink LOTS of water before you go. Bring a bottle with you, too. You'll probably sweat a lot.
Either way, Monstar, what you're talking about looks fine; it's all up to personal preference. Some people can work out after taking lipo, but personally, i've tried to work out afterwards and my energy is SHOT. Besides, the nice thing about lipo is that it does the energy consumption for you, which is why I think it's overkill to use it around workouts. I think the lethargy only starts hitting me hard after about 3-4 days on the stuff, if you cycle it on and off that rapidly you might not ever feel as depleted. I've never tried it like that, so I can't tell you how it'll work, but I see no reason why it wouldn't help cut you up without turning your workouts into crap.
Good luck, guys.
Either way, Monstar, what you're talking about looks fine; it's all up to personal preference. Some people can work out after taking lipo, but personally, i've tried to work out afterwards and my energy is SHOT. Besides, the nice thing about lipo is that it does the energy consumption for you, which is why I think it's overkill to use it around workouts. I think the lethargy only starts hitting me hard after about 3-4 days on the stuff, if you cycle it on and off that rapidly you might not ever feel as depleted. I've never tried it like that, so I can't tell you how it'll work, but I see no reason why it wouldn't help cut you up without turning your workouts into crap.
Good luck, guys.
MonStar1023
New member
Thanks Belial
Thanks a lot dude for the response no one else seems to respond and I am glad that you have taken it before and know what your talking about. Appreciate it.
Thanks a lot dude for the response no one else seems to respond and I am glad that you have taken it before and know what your talking about. Appreciate it.
mike peters
New member
I had worse side effects on lipo than dnp. Always tired and cranky. I'd go w/ dnp instead.
ive been taking lipo for a month(ive taken it before). it does work great. alough the side effects suck
bad stomach ach
sweet palms
hard to sleep
always tired
my friend was taking it as well. all of a sudden he had 1,000 plus red spots all over him. he went to doc. the doc said he had a allergic rec. to somthing. i keep getting new little red spots(not alot) but, one here and there. i take 2 tabs when i wake up 2 tabs afternoon and 2 before bed...boy does it work!
the fda has taking it off the shelfs. i know a guy with a supplement store and he still has 20 bottles.
good luck callie
bad stomach ach
sweet palms
hard to sleep
always tired
my friend was taking it as well. all of a sudden he had 1,000 plus red spots all over him. he went to doc. the doc said he had a allergic rec. to somthing. i keep getting new little red spots(not alot) but, one here and there. i take 2 tabs when i wake up 2 tabs afternoon and 2 before bed...boy does it work!
the fda has taking it off the shelfs. i know a guy with a supplement store and he still has 20 bottles.
good luck callie
cozmokramer
New member
belly24...
I get the spots also when ever I take more than 2 pills
within a 5 hour period... but if I take 2 every 5 hours
then I'm ok...
Its a reaction to the usnic acid within... with the spots
I usually get a fever... once as high as 104!
but i must say that its still the best product I've tried..
I bought 25 bottles once I heard it was being pulled off
the shelf!
I get the spots also when ever I take more than 2 pills
within a 5 hour period... but if I take 2 every 5 hours
then I'm ok...
Its a reaction to the usnic acid within... with the spots
I usually get a fever... once as high as 104!
but i must say that its still the best product I've tried..
I bought 25 bottles once I heard it was being pulled off
the shelf!
MonStar1023
New member
THANKS
Thanks a lot for all the replies... so lemme get this straight... this supplement regimen is OKAY to use first of all...?
Sun> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Mon> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Tues> ECA 2x a day
Wed> ECA 2x a day
Thurs> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Fri> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Sat> ECA or lay-off from ephedrine (Phen-Free maybe)
And I am supposed to space out each 2-capsule dosage every 5 hours or so... and whatsup with taking it before bed??? I am so confused about that... Here are some guidlines... (PLEASE CRITIQUE)
1) space out dosage every 5 hours
2) take in a TON of water
3) eat meals every 1.5-2.5 hours to keep energy up
Can someone please give me some more guidlines to go by to assure this product is taken SAFELY & BEST possible results. THANK YOU!
Thanks a lot for all the replies... so lemme get this straight... this supplement regimen is OKAY to use first of all...?
Sun> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Mon> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Tues> ECA 2x a day
Wed> ECA 2x a day
Thurs> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Fri> Lipokinetix 2x a day
Sat> ECA or lay-off from ephedrine (Phen-Free maybe)
And I am supposed to space out each 2-capsule dosage every 5 hours or so... and whatsup with taking it before bed??? I am so confused about that... Here are some guidlines... (PLEASE CRITIQUE)
1) space out dosage every 5 hours
2) take in a TON of water
3) eat meals every 1.5-2.5 hours to keep energy up
Can someone please give me some more guidlines to go by to assure this product is taken SAFELY & BEST possible results. THANK YOU!
Best TO TAKE ADIPOKINETICS 2 /3 TIMES A DAY WITH SOME ASPRIN AND A TIRATRICOL PRODUCT 2/3 TIMES A DAY ABOUT 4-6 WEEKS SHOULD LOOSE A LEAST 10-15 POUNDS OF BODY FAT IF YOUR AROUN 15% like i was now i am under 10% do a little cardio 3/times a week 30 min excellent results the lipokinetix bothers my stomach and to me is not much different than adipokinetix
