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ok seems like everyone has a comment, quote,excerp, cut-n-paste, blog, testamonial, sticky, ect ect. who the fuck has actually used it? and what was your experience :Perk:
 
hammercurls said:
ok seems like everyone has a comment, quote,excerp, cut-n-paste, blog, testamonial, sticky, ect ect. who the fuck has actually used it? and what was your experience :Perk:

Bro there's about 10 threads on this already.
 
On it now. I think I'm seeing/ feeling better/bigger pumps? It might be the change in diet though. It's only been four days. :Chef: :tuc:
 
Blut Wump said:
I did a search earlier. RossLovesJestros was in too many of them for me to feel happy taking info from them and I'm glad to see a fresh one starting up.

Ross only started talking about Tbol about a month ago...do a search and only g go to threads older than that... He never said a word about it before that.
 
HumanTarget said:
ok, what exactly is it? is it an aas?
Yeah dude. It's like a milder version of d-bol. Supposedly no harsh sides and little to no estrogen conversion. :Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
Yeah dude. It's like a milder version of d-bol. Supposedly no harsh sides and little to no estrogen conversion. :Chef: :tuc:
that's awesome. i hate the flushed red face and nose bleeds from d-bol.
 
mendo said:
Ross only started talking about Tbol about a month ago...do a search and only g go to threads older than that... He never said a word about it before that.
Will do, thanks. This stuff looks worth trying.

I'll hit you both when I recharge.
 
HumanTarget said:
that's awesome. i hate the flushed red face and nose bleeds from d-bol.
No shit dude. My first AAS experience was with D-Bol and I was a red faced bafoon. Didn't keep a lick of the gains. Alas, that was 10 years ago right outta High School with 0 knowledge of PCT! :Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
On it now. I think I'm seeing/ feeling better/bigger pumps? It might be the change in diet though. It's only been four days. :Chef: :tuc:

What brand you using Bro??
I'm on BD at 60mg. a day. it's day 10, and I THINK the pumps are starting to slightly kick in now, but nothing phenomal.

[email protected]

TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE A ANIMAL!! :evil: :evil:
 
wwebound4life said:
What brand you using Bro??
I'm on BD at 60mg. a day. it's day 10, and I THINK the pumps are starting to slightly kick in now, but nothing phenomal.

[email protected]

TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE A ANIMAL!! :evil: :evil:
I'm on some UG shit this bro makes. He's a good bro for sure!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
hammercurls said:
so why was this drug discontinued if it was so great?


I have read on other posts and during my searches that 1 guy used an obsene amount (like 100-200 milligrams) of it for 1-2 years and got testicular cancer so they stopped making it. I would have to do more searching to actually find the article. maybe someone has it and can post it.
 
after what bruce and sparetire and now chef are saying about TBOL, rest assured I will be including it in the next cycle I do along with my test and eq. I am so happy with the test eq cycle, that the only thing I can see improving it is TBOL at the start to really kick it off.
 
ive taken many cycles with oral-t to kick start it. i decided to try oral t a while ago because i thought i read somewhere it was better on your lipid profiles then other orals. I have no idea now if that was true. Im the kind of guy who likes to experiment with different things, whether its an amino acid, or an anabolic or an herb. the most ive taken is 30-40 mg per day of ** tabs. its not the same to me as doing 30-40 mg of dbol a day, but the strength gains were okay, with little or no bloat , no itchy nips, and i didnt have to use arimidex, which saves a little money ( if your like me and gain alot of water on dbol) . if i wanted to really try it out, id do 60-80 per day, but ive always tried to keep my liver in working condition. plus the price is kinda steep compared to dbol. my next cycle ill probably do 20mg of dbol, and 20mg of oral t. if price is no concern, and your curious, then try it out. if you just want to gain mass and get strong, then stick with dbol. just my two cents.
 
I have stated many times over that Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone is a remarkable compound with great promise for all goals.

In my opinion, the MINIMUM dosage is 50mgs.

Chefbone, glad to see you are giving the Oral-T a try! Keep us updated.

~Ross~
 
Im taking it right now at 60mg ed, and to be honest i think its way over rated and over hyped. strength gains are nothing compared to other orals i have tried. itsvery mild that it feels like EQ.
 
Iron Ross said:
I have stated many times over that Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone is a remarkable compound with great promise for all goals.

In my opinion, the MINIMUM dosage is 50mgs.

Chefbone, glad to see you are giving the Oral-T a try! Keep us updated.

~Ross~
I thought you left. I have something for you..... :finger:
:Chef: :tuc:
 
hammercurls said:
ok seems like everyone has a comment, quote,excerp, cut-n-paste, blog, testamonial, sticky, ect ect. who the fuck has actually used it? and what was your experience :Perk:

Turanabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's. It has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low - only 6 - and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of methandienone is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Turanabol is recommended in wasting diseases and HIV symptoms since it does not aromatize.



OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milli-gram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Test-osterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.
 
Does anyone have any info on what its metabolites and sides are? What are its effects on prolactin, progesterone, DHT? Does it absolutely not aromatize or only at a very low rate?

All I can find around the 'Net are copies of what Smaretick posted.
 
Blut Wump said:
Does anyone have any info on what its metabolites and sides are? What are its effects on prolactin, progesterone, DHT? Does it absolutely not aromatize or only at a very low rate?

All I can find around the 'Net are copies of what Smaretick posted.

Schumann W.

Institut fur Mikrobiologie und experimentelle Therapie
(ZIMET), Jena.

Disposition and excretion of the anabolic steroid Oral-
Turinabol (1;4-chloro-17 alpha-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-17
beta-hydroxy-3-one) were investigated in male volunteers.
Following single p.o. and i.v. administration of the tritium-
labelled compound the plasma concentration courses of total
radioactivity (1 and 1-metabolites) and of the unchanged
parent drug as well as the urinary excretion were estimated.
From these data model independent pharmacokinetic parameters
based on statistical moments were calculated. 1 is almost
completely absorbed after p.o. administration of 10 mg per
volunteer. Peak concentrations of total radioactivity and of 1
in plasma were reached about 3 h p.a. Irregularities
observed in the plasma level profile following both p.o. and
i.v. administration of 1 are due to a marked enterohepatic
circulation. Orally given 1 is subject to a first-pass
effect, resulting in a diminished systematic availability.
The AUC-ratio of the unchanged drug and the total
radioactivity of 1 : 13 shows the predominance of metabolites
in plasma. After i.v. administration the disposition of
unchanged 1 was found biphasically with a terminal half-life
of 16 h. 1 and its metabolites are preferentially excreted
via the kidneys. The urinary total radioactivity represented
about 60% of the dose following both administrations. Due to
its affinity to SHBG 1 is able to compete for the protein
binding of testosterone, resulting in an increased plasma
level of non protein-bound testosterone.

NO Aromatization (due to the Chloro addition) and it can not alpha-5 reduce to DHT.

Hope I helped!
 
Not really, but thanks. I think you could cut and paste most of that (clearly not the last line) into a discussion of dbol or proviron with appropriate half-life values.
 
Blut Wump said:
Not really, but thanks. I think you could cut and paste most of that (clearly not the last line) into a discussion of dbol or proviron with appropriate half-life values.

It should have helped.

Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone has ZERO metabolites.
 
Iron Ross said:
Schumann W.

Institut fur Mikrobiologie und experimentelle Therapie
(ZIMET), Jena.

Disposition and excretion of the anabolic steroid Oral-
Turinabol (1;4-chloro-17 alpha-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-17
beta-hydroxy-3-one) were investigated in male volunteers.
Following single p.o. and i.v. administration of the tritium-
labelled compound the plasma concentration courses of total
radioactivity (1 and 1-metabolites) and of the unchanged
parent drug as well as the urinary excretion were estimated.
From these data model independent pharmacokinetic parameters
based on statistical moments were calculated. 1 is almost
completely absorbed after p.o. administration of 10 mg per
volunteer. Peak concentrations of total radioactivity and of 1
in plasma were reached about 3 h p.a. Irregularities
observed in the plasma level profile following both p.o. and
i.v. administration of 1 are due to a marked enterohepatic
circulation. Orally given 1 is subject to a first-pass
effect, resulting in a diminished systematic availability.
The AUC-ratio of the unchanged drug and the total
radioactivity of 1 : 13 shows the predominance of metabolites
in plasma. After i.v. administration the disposition of
unchanged 1 was found biphasically with a terminal half-life
of 16 h. 1 and its metabolites are preferentially excreted
via the kidneys. The urinary total radioactivity represented
about 60% of the dose following both administrations. Due to
its affinity to SHBG 1 is able to compete for the protein
binding of testosterone, resulting in an increased plasma
level of non protein-bound testosterone.

NO Aromatization (due to the Chloro addition) and it can not alpha-5 reduce to DHT.

Hope I helped!

Interesting!
 
I would just like to day that it is day 5 for me on 50mg of t-bol. I have also tweaked my diet slightly. My point: it's very mild so far but the veins in my arms are representing the likes of highways on an atlas. The pump in my bi's is crazy. So it may be the diet or the gear. Tomorrow is another day.
:Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
I would just like to day that it is day 5 for me on 50mg of t-bol. I have also tweaked my diet slightly. My point: it's very mild so far but the veins in my arms are representing the likes of highways on an atlas. The pump in my bi's is crazy. So it may be the diet or the gear. Tomorrow is another day.
:Chef: :tuc:

Right on man, good news. By the way, I blacked him out for you guys.....man he is annoying. :D
 
wayneboard1 said:
Right on man, good news. By the way, I blacked him out for you guys.....man he is annoying. :D
You're a good bro. I take it you got my "BOMB SQUAD" pm, right?
:Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
You're a good bro. I take it you got my "BOMB SQUAD" pm, right?
:Chef: :tuc:

I actually got it after I sent my own "present" over. Great minds think alike. I just got sick of his approach and attitude. Plus the more I learned about his very gray approach to people that PM'd him and his charging people and whatever, he needs to be gone. We don't need that kind of approach on this board and I for one wasn't learning anything from him. I am here to learn more and educate myself from the vets and mods on here, not some cut and paster who capitalizes every 3rd word. ;)
 
I ran it at 50mg per day for 3 weeks, gained 15lbs of pure water, started to get really sensititve nipples, and stopped it. Lost all the water pretty quickly. Running winny tabs now with much better gains.
 
blueghost said:
I ran it at 50mg per day for 3 weeks, gained 15lbs of pure water, started to get really sensititve nipples, and stopped it. Lost all the water pretty quickly. Running winny tabs now with much better gains.

Hard to believe bro... You'd be the first. Not flaming you, but I have talked to many who have done Tbol, and I have run several cycles myself...you're the first who's noticed this.
 
mendo said:
Hard to believe bro... You'd be the first. Not flaming you, but I have talked to many who have done Tbol, and I have run several cycles myself...you're the first who's noticed this.
Unless it was really D-bol.
 
uglyass said:
What did Ross do to you guys that was so bad? Most of his posts I have seen have been very informative??

UglyASS :p


He's an arrogant asshole, that's what got him in the toilet, but the moron was being informative cause he was SELLING services on Elite, that's why he got banned, his platty, and 3 alters all banned. NO ONE wants him here anymore.
 
indy69camaro said:
He's an arrogant asshole, that's what got him in the toilet, but the moron was being informative cause he was SELLING services on Elite, that's why he got banned, his platty, and 3 alters all banned. NO ONE wants him here anymore.
you're a good bro, my fellow Ohioan!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
I was not BANNED! ASK the MODS! I simply keep changing my NAME because THREE IMMATURE INDIVIDUALS KEEP BOMBING ME.

ONE account--my temporary platinum membership--was banned, as I was ADVERTISING, which is against Board policies unless you have a special account. (I customize DIET/CYCLE/EXERCISE regimens)

My posts continue to be informative, and this is why I continue to recieve emails and PMs under my various identities.

AND YES Chefbone and INDY--I am still making money..

I can tell you boys have never been to the big city eh?
 
Iron Ross said:
I was not BANNED! ASK the MODS! I simply keep changing my NAME because THREE IMMATURE INDIVIDUALS KEEP BOMBING ME.

ONE account--my temporary platinum membership--was banned, as I was ADVERTISING, which is against Board policies unless you have a special account. (I customize DIET/CYCLE/EXERCISE regimens)

My posts continue to be informative, and this is why I continue to recieve emails and PMs under my various identities.

AND YES Chefbone and INDY--I am still making money..

I can tell you boys have never been to the big city eh?
Indy and I built the "Big City" cock sucker....... :Chef: :tuc:
 
Iron Ross said:
I was not BANNED! ASK the MODS! I simply keep changing my NAME because THREE IMMATURE INDIVIDUALS KEEP BOMBING ME.

ONE account--my temporary platinum membership--was banned, as I was ADVERTISING, which is against Board policies unless you have a special account. (I customize DIET/CYCLE/EXERCISE regimens)

My posts continue to be informative, and this is why I continue to recieve emails and PMs under my various identities.

AND YES Chefbone and INDY--I am still making money..

I can tell you boys have never been to the big city eh?


No need to explain, we know what you did, we dont like you and you just keep proving that. You make think you have informative posts, but the arrogance has stepped on that. As far as you making money, who gives a FUCK !! I own more cars than you do pairs of underwear, money is NOT what matters, go fuck yourself on another board you moron.........and I did talk to the mods, and they have me Karma for flaming your stupid ass, so how does that make you feel now !!! How does it feel to be OWNED !! You always will be here, so grow up and start over somewhere else.
 
because of TWO immature losers?? LEAVE ELITE? LOLOLOL!

I get dozens of emails and PMs in support. The EVIDENCE speaks for itself.

I am not going anywhere buddy.
 
Iron Ross said:
because of TWO immature losers?? LEAVE ELITE? LOLOLOL!

I get dozens of emails and PMs in support. The EVIDENCE speaks for itself.

I am not going anywhere buddy.
Hey Ross, how's this for a cut&paste post:
I fucked your girlfriend last night.
While you snored and drooled, I fucked your love.
She called me Daddy. And I called her baby when I
Smacked her ass. I called her sugar when I ate
Her alive till daylight. And I slept with her all
Over me, from forehead to ribcage I dripped her ass.
Sometimes I thought you might be spying, living out some
Brash fantasy, but no. You were knocked out. But we were
All knocked out you know. In a way
:Chef: :tuc:
 
Iron Ross said:
because of TWO immature losers?? LEAVE ELITE? LOLOLOL!

I get dozens of emails and PMs in support. The EVIDENCE speaks for itself.

I am not going anywhere buddy.

we'll see about that, and stop calling me your buddy, you faggot. Never been to a big city eh ?? Sounds like a challenge, where you want to meet moron, Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn ??? let me know, I'll be there, I'll show you how mature I really am you piece of shit......and instead of you keep posting " I get emails and pm's in support" why dont you just read what everyone is posting IN PUBLIC about you, If I were you I would be too embarrassed to show my face around here, cock sucker.
 
chefbone said:
Hey Ross, how's this for a cut&paste post:
I fucked your girlfriend last night.
While you snored and drooled, I fucked your love.
She called me Daddy. And I called her baby when I
Smacked her ass. I called her sugar when I ate
Her alive till daylight. And I slept with her all
Over me, from forehead to ribcage I dripped her ass.
Sometimes I thought you might be spying, living out some
Brash fantasy, but no. You were knocked out. But we were
All knocked out you know. In a way
:Chef: :tuc:

THANK YOU soooo much for showing the ELITE MEMBERS how ridiculous and immature you really are? HOW OLD ARE YOU? WHAT is wrong with you?

People see how I conduct myself in my posts--I don;t insult and curse, and degrade like a teenager. GROW UP.

People enjoy my advice. I am sorry you are so insecure that you have to get your buddies to BOMB me so that you don;t have to see men and feel insecure about yourself. Leave me alone, if people don't want me here, let the boards speak. Refrain from giving me K of any sorts. LET THE BOARD speak..

AND GROW UP....a MOD should suspend you for VULGARITY
 
Iron Ross said:
AND I turned this whole board on to TBOL

Your welcome CHEFBONE!

LOL
Dude, you didn't turn anyone on to anything especially me. I play for the home team bro, I'm not a switch hitter Ross!!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
Iron Ross said:
AND YES Chefbone and INDY--I am still making money..

I can tell you boys have never been to the big city eh?

One question? If your making money why can't you spring for a real platinum membership?
 
bluehen said:
Maybe going Plat will show a little good faith, just my opinion.

I would rather hang around Anabolic-Review Forums of even MuscleTALK UK.

BUT--I owe it to the board to stay...

Ill go plat after these clowns are gone
 
Iron Ross said:
I would rather hang around Anabolic-Review Forums of even MuscleTALK UK.

BUT--I owe it to the board to stay...

Ill go plat after these clowns are gone
How long do you think it would take until you get banned again?
:Chef: :tuc:
 
I could be wrong, but it seems like two guys are the only ones with an axe to grind with ross, I for one would like to see what he has to say......he seems to know his shit. Why dont yall just agree to disagree and let us see what he has to say.......He knows he can know longer sell his services.....let it be.....just my thoughts.
 
mr.jones said:
I could be wrong, but it seems like two guys are the only ones with an axe to grind with ross, I for one would like to see what he has to say......he seems to know his shit. Why dont yall just agree to disagree and let us see what he has to say.......He knows he can know longer sell his services.....let it be.....just my thoughts.

Exactly...

2 individuals...extremely immature too...

Thanks for recognizing..
 
someone please bomb these 2 clowns for making this board a kindergarten classroom!

Stop with the cursing, insults, vulgarity, and totally unproductive ciriticisms....
 
mr.jones said:
I could be wrong, but it seems like two guys are the only ones with an axe to grind with ross, I for one would like to see what he has to say......he seems to know his shit. Why dont yall just agree to disagree and let us see what he has to say.......He knows he can know longer sell his services.....let it be.....just my thoughts.
I've found too much of his information to be, I was about to say misinformation but, total bollocks would be more accurate. When I further found that he was using these bollocks to peddle his wares, it struck me as bad form. He's done nothing to suggest repentance so he can shove it and preferably elsewhere.
 
mr.jones said:
he seems to know his stuff.......I cant tell because he is blacked out to everone.....
Just highlight his post with you mouse like you are going to copy it. You can see what he posted then.
 
Competition? Of what sorts?

Just let me be! LOLOL...what the hell did I do?

2 people...2 people...2 people..ONLY 3 EVER GAVE ME NEGATIVE K.

I recieve dozens of Pms and emails, and I help everyone I can. Stop harassing me, and let the board be!
 
I'm on day 10 of t-bol. strength is going up, muscles definitely are looking bigger (to me at least), and I feel great. Libido is through the roof. I'm running 50mg/day for a total of 25 days to kickstart this sust cycle, and I will end with var. so far, t-bol is all it has been cracked up to be. no bloat, no sides, I love it! I don't see any reason not to use it to kickstart any cycle.
 
i did 6 wks of OT 60mg per day. 10 days after cycle ended had my bloodwork done : cholesterol up to 298 ( 6 months ago it was 174 ) liver function elevated at 298. I was going to go back on for 20 mg per day for 4 more weeks tomorrow, but not doing that now. going to get liver retested next week. not doing anything other than 50 mgs of Testim gel as part of TRT. Loved OT while on it. strength way up. pumps way up. loved it. will do it again i think. im betting that i just should have waited another week to get tested. BUT>>> i was told it clears out in 5 days. just an FYI
 
50cent said:
i did 6 wks of OT 60mg per day. 10 days after cycle ended had my bloodwork done : cholesterol up to 298 ( 6 months ago it was 174 ) liver function elevated at 298. I was going to go back on for 20 mg per day for 4 more weeks tomorrow, but not doing that now. going to get liver retested next week. not doing anything other than 50 mgs of Testim gel as part of TRT. Loved OT while on it. strength way up. pumps way up. loved it. will do it again i think. im betting that i just should have waited another week to get tested. BUT>>> i was told it clears out in 5 days. just an FYI


Dude that's harsh, I can do 100mg/day or more of dbol and not have values like that, hell I've done 100mg of a bombs and not been that bad, I wouldn't touch that shit anymore if I were you...keep us up to date, make sure your values get back to normal range.
 
mr.jones said:
I could be wrong, but it seems like two guys are the only ones with an axe to grind with ross, I for one would like to see what he has to say......he seems to know his shit. Why dont yall just agree to disagree and let us see what he has to say.......He knows he can know longer sell his services.....let it be.....just my thoughts.

No, these 2 guys are just more vocal about their disdain for "ross" but they are not the only ones.
 
wayneboard1 said:
No, these 2 guys are just more vocal about their disdain for "ross" but they are not the only ones.


and might I point out, it takes ALOT for this guy to get vocal and spend this much energy pissed at someone, he's a fake and we're looking out for the best interest of our bro's, no one else needs to get duped or worse yet, hurt from his "advice" you want to go direct with him, go ahead, but dont say we didn't warn you for your own safety. there are MUCH more experianced bro's here without this kid trying to sway everything his way to make money.
 
Iron Ross said:
Do you really believe your own nonsense?

worse yet, you believe YOURS !!!!! stop playing god of the bodybuilding scene and act like a normal member, maybe people will stop bombing you, Now yet ANOTHER of your alters I have to add to my ignore list, probably be another one tomorrow when you get this one banned :)
 
mendo said:
Hard to believe bro... You'd be the first. Not flaming you, but I have talked to many who have done Tbol, and I have run several cycles myself...you're the first who's noticed this.

I am actually wondering if it was dbol myself. I was pretty surprised at the sides and never having run dbol, I could not compare the 2. But it was from a pretty reliable source. but they are both little pink pills so who knows.
 
blueghost said:
I am actually wondering if it was dbol myself. I was pretty surprised at the sides and never having run dbol, I could not compare the 2. But it was from a pretty reliable source. but they are both little pink pills so who knows.

Yeah those BD tabs look almost identical. Definately sounds more like Dbol, which is a lot cheaper...so I wouldn't be surprised if someone got scammed that way.
 
indy69camaro said:
and might I point out, it takes ALOT for this guy to get vocal and spend this much energy pissed at someone, he's a fake and we're looking out for the best interest of our bro's, no one else needs to get duped or worse yet, hurt from his "advice" you want to go direct with him, go ahead, but dont say we didn't warn you for your own safety. there are MUCH more experianced bro's here without this kid trying to sway everything his way to make money.

Good post.... Ross you're saying only two people dont like you?.... here's a third. Only reason I wouldnt normally say anything is because when I see posts like: "OT + Anavar = ultimate stack" I just laugh. You're a little bitch who has been BANNED whether you admit it or not, and I for one dont give a shit how many first day newbies are pming & emailing you for diet and training advice. You're a douche.

Warmest wishes,
Jim
 
i used ug tbol 60mg ed by day 7 i was up 4lbs and pumps were crazy, i have a thread called tbol update, search it. all of the figures are there. it wasn't discontinued it wss an aas that was made by germans and the original brand is impossible to get, bd started producing it and now others as well. my gains subsided after 22 days i think with 7lbs i gained of lean mass and about 30lbs on my second bench set, i was quite happy. no sides whatsoever and the pct was a cinch, i say its like winstrol without joint pain or night sweats and you gain a bit more lean mass. the strength and pumps are more intense than winstrol. i think everyone should try it imo winny should be . obsolete at this point. i am interested in running a tbol prop cycle for 4 -5 weeks and see what i can gain. how can you go wrong with 7-10 lbs in 22 days of lean mass with no sides
 
Winny will never be obsolete. U didnt see Rafael Palmerio test positive for tbol did u? I think Shawn Ray tested postive too for winny one year. Didnt Fernando Vargas test postive for winny too? And u may gain 7 lbs one cycle but it wont be that way again with a second run.
 
indy69camaro said:
Dude that's harsh, I can do 100mg/day or more of dbol and not have values like that, hell I've done 100mg of a bombs and not been that bad, I wouldn't touch that shit anymore if I were you...keep us up to date, make sure your values get bor take anythiack to normal range.
how bad are those liver numbers? i dont drink or take anything else. i couldnt have possibly , permanately damaged myself with 1 6 wk cycle, could I?
 
indy69camaro said:
and might I point out, it takes ALOT for this guy to get vocal and spend this much energy pissed at someone, he's a fake and we're looking out for the best interest of our bro's, no one else needs to get duped or worse yet, hurt from his "advice" you want to go direct with him, go ahead, but dont say we didn't warn you for your own safety. there are MUCH more experianced bro's here without this kid trying to sway everything his way to make money.
Good Post. I've seen some completely wrong posts from Ross and, on an anabolics board, bad info can make people very sick.

If someone posts up saying "I think X and Y and here are my links" then you can verify and make your own conclusions. When someone cuts and pastes from elsewhere and then comes up with crap like "it has ZERO metabolites" as though they know it to be true then you have to cut him out and view all his posts with suspicion. When you hear that he's pushing misinformation for his own profit then he has to be removed.

Props to the plats on here who have looked out for our health and safety by highlighting the crap this guy spouts for his own personal gains.
 
The colours in real life are quite different, the washing out effect of flash photography may make them look similar in online pics though.

I would describe the colour of the M10's as pink and the T10 as red.

On the BD site they call it 'dark pink' I'm pretty sure however that the photo turanabol_2.jpg incorrectly shows M10 tabs spilling out of the T10 packaging, perhaps the image was created b4 they actually had the product ready to photograph.

I had samples of the first ever batch and the ones made just recently and the colour has not changed.

S.B.C

mendo said:
Yeah those BD tabs look almost identical. Definately sounds more like Dbol, which is a lot cheaper...so I wouldn't be surprised if someone got scammed that way.
 
bruce410 said:
i used ug tbol 60mg ed by day 7 i was up 4lbs and pumps were crazy, i have a thread called tbol update, search it. all of the figures are there. it wasn't discontinued it wss an aas that was made by germans and the original brand is impossible to get, bd started producing it and now others as well. my gains subsided after 22 days i think with 7lbs i gained of lean mass and about 30lbs on my second bench set, i was quite happy. no sides whatsoever and the pct was a cinch, i say its like winstrol without joint pain or night sweats and you gain a bit more lean mass. the strength and pumps are more intense than winstrol. i think everyone should try it imo winny should be . obsolete at this point. i am interested in running a tbol prop cycle for 4 -5 weeks and see what i can gain. how can you go wrong with 7-10 lbs in 22 days of lean mass with no sides

What did you do for pct Bruce?
 
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