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http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/03/01/lebanon.protests/index.html

Lebanese protested in the masses and forced the government to resign, they want syria to leave lebanon. Finally!

I read it this morning here in a newspapaer and it gave me goosepimples.

Seeing thousands of lebanese people smiling and cheering in the photo's, they look exactly like young Israeli's.

Maybe my dream to go to beirut and have humus one day will come true!!!

What you guys think?

Bush - can he take any credit? It makes me cringe to think he can.

Will I be able to go to beirut with an Israeli passport?

Will I have sex with Lebanese hotties?

Come on, full political discussion needed here!
 
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Another success of the Bush doctrine


Another colossal failure for liberal think
 
BrothaBill said:
no, its awful, sorry to ruin your dream.
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You gotta try it for real in Israel or somewhere in the middle east, not the shit you get over there!

JA, I see your point but I do not think Bush deserrves the credit, he is a dumb asshole.
 
Allon said:
JA, I see your point but I do not think Bush deserrves the credit, he is a dumb asshole.
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well so long as your reasoning skills are solid.

About what Ive come to expect from any discussion with a liberal. same answer to every debate
 
Allon said:
You gotta try it for real in Israel or somewhere in the middle east, not the shit you get over there!

JA, I see your point but I do not think Bush deserrves the credit, he is a dumb asshole.
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Orkney Islands has world reknowned hummus.
 
JA, I am surprised someone like you is a conservative. Does not suit you at all. Thats Great!

I really think to jump the gun and say that Bush's pressure caused all of this may have some merit but I do not think this justifies his behaviour, or your countries for voting in a neandrathal like him.

The lebanese were a timebomb wating to happen, how long can a country be a puppet of another for without crying out?
 
Allon said:
JA, I am surprised someone like you is a conservative. Does not suit you at all. Thats Great!

I really think to jump the gun and say that Bush's pressure caused all of this may have some merit but I do not think this justifies his behaviour, or your countries for voting in a neandrathal like him.

The lebanese were a timebomb wating to happen, how long can a country be a puppet of another for without crying out?
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The Bush policy isnt repsonsible for this in some tangental way. It is simply the cause of what is happening in lebananon. Period.

Our countries behavior was justified by our own interests, treaties, and international law. Although the first was more than sufficient

Bush = neanderthall is stupid, and frankly doesnt warrnat furtehr discussion. If you have something substantive to add, feel free to do so, but if I want to trade grade school insults on matters of politics, Ill go debate a high school freshman
 
JerseyArt said:
Another success of the Bush doctrine


Another colossal failure for liberal think
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LMAO!!!!

Even the most ardent conservatives out there are saying this is a lebaniese victory not a bush victory.
 
JA, I understand what you are saying but it is kinda pompous.

To say Bush is the cause for it period, is like me saying he is a neandrathal period.

I am actually saying that he he a neandrathal NOT PERIOD i.e you are welcome to explain why he is so great. I think he is a neandrathal coz he is not smart in my opinion. I think he is an evil daddy's boy and I am sure you have heard all the reason I have for thinking this so I will spare you.

Even though discussing Bush is fine here, lets steer it more towards lebanon and middle east and discuss bush's involvement as a side note.

PLEASE, lets not take views seriously or personally. Even though you are a dumb biggot of a conservative, It don't mean I don't like you. :)
 
WODIN said:
LMAO!!!!

Even the most ardent conservatives out there are saying this is a lebaniese victory not a bush victory.
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LOL

Love the way you guys insert "even the most ardent" to support an otherwise baseless and untrue statement.

Not only are they all over the print/tv/and radio media doing just that, even liberals like Thomas Friedman in the NY tImes are doing the same.

Nice try Wodin, but you should have waitied 6 months till eevryone had forgotten what had happened.
 
WODIN said:
LMAO!!!!

Even the most ardent conservatives out there are saying this is a lebaniese victory not a bush victory.
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I still can't believe there's a whole country of women who dig women.

fuckin' awesome.......
 
I don't care about the political side of this discussion, but on the subject of Lebanon, my father was stationed there in the 50's and he raved about how beautiful the country was. I just hope that the people there will have a chance to enjoy the beauty that their country offers, without the threat of conflict around every corner.
 
Allon said:
JA, a person like you being a conservative is fascinating!
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First I dont know what a person like me is;)

Conservatism = personal liberty and freedom. If it were a viable party, I'd be a libertarian.

The modern day democratic party offers nothing more than class/race envy, empty promises of some utopian dream that the next guy will allegedly foot the bill for (and hes evil anyway, so its ok to hate him) and capitulation of national security and foreign policy.

I live in a representative government which my liberal American brethren wish to give away in some inane policy of internationalism, whcih essentially promotes the premise that Americans are too powerful and too stupid to be trusted with their own affairs
 
Interesting JA, I get your point but still find it hard to see how you chose bible fanatics like bush over any dumbassed liberal.

whats the reason?
 
Oh and a person like you is someone with a fucking twisted sense of humour (in the BEST of ways) jokes about his gender, sex, etc... obiously a very open minded, modern, "LIBERAL", doesn't give a fuck whazt anyone thinks, kinda person. I might be wrong, but that is the impression I get.
 
Allon said:
Interesting JA, I get your point but still find it hard to see how you chose bible fanatics like bush over any dumbassed liberal.

whats the reason?
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Oh please bible fanataics. everyone who believes in God is a fanatic according to the left. The only correct acceptable answers to the left are agnotsic,atheists, but spiritual yet in some vague unafffiliated way. Everyone elee is a bible thumper.

About par for the intolerant tolerance weve come to expect from the left

They all of a sudden do love muslims, but thats primarily because they hate America. Otherwise theyd have no use for them either.


Bush is a rational and shrewd leader. He tackled a tough problem which most anyone else would have allowed to continue to fester until it reached epic proportions. He lanced the boil, and offered at least a solution. None was proferred by the left except more neglect. I have yet to read a credible alternative from anyone in the democratic party.

I recall Reagan was also labeled an idiot and a fanatic, but he was also proven correct by history. The only ones who fail to acknowledge it to this day are liberals, who were on the wrong side then as they are now.
 
Amazing theory JA, but I think I can safely say that someone who promotes:

No sex until marriage
Death penalty
Abolish abortions
No gay marriages
etc etc

To not be someone who knows anything about freedom and also calling them a bible fanatic kinda is not so silly of me.
 
Allon said:
Amazing theory JA, but I think I can safely say that someone who promotes:

No sex until marriage
Death penalty
Abolish abortions
No gay marriages
etc etc

To not be someone who knows anything about freedom and also calling them a bible fanatic kinda is not so silly of me.
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You havent given it much thought. The largest Chrich in the world oposes the death penalty for example. His opponent also supported the death penalty. It isnt a religious conviction, but something cultural and strongly rooted. Personally I oppose the death penalty on aoral grounds and dont think the state should be in the business of executing anyone who is no longer a threat.

Abortion is a moral issue which is opposed my many atheists. Again it is a conservative principle in as much as the state has determined thta they are now qualified to redefine human beings. A "fetus" can be aborted solely because the courts have decided its not human, and therefore not entitled to Constitutional protection.

And while his religious convcitions may cause him to promote abstinence, there are no public policies punishing people who decide to have sex. I fail to see the conflcit.

Finally the issue of gay marriage can be debated ad nauseum. Your assumption is incorrect, prmilarily that this is a religious issue solely. I suggest it is fundamental to society, and can be argued with merit in a secualr way. Marriage is a human institution, and established in society for the proper raising and rearing of children. It is not a right, it is a socila construct, with clear goals, none of which are furthered by gay marriage
 
I do not say it is solely a religous point of view, I am saying that it is backward.

Ok, forget the abortion issue.

How can you support a government that obviously does not see modern way of life and modern way of seeing life a reality and constantly try to take peoples thoughts and morals backwards?

Liberation of the soul, body and mind is a way of life the BUSH seems to want to crush.
 
Of all the people that have been banned, did I deserve it least or most human?

3-5 days ago, I was nowhere near a computer so dunno exactly when.

All my karma was zapped.
 
Allon said:
Amazing theory JA, but I think I can safely say that someone who promotes:

No sex until marriage
Death penalty
Abolish abortions
No gay marriages
etc etc

To not be someone who knows anything about freedom and also calling them a bible fanatic kinda is not so silly of me.
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These are good laws accept for the no sex until marriage. Sex offenders should be exocuted. Abortionist ahould be put to death by stoning. Marriage is between a man and a woman, period. Not married? fuck all you want!
 
You think that gays should be allowed to get married? You dont think anyone deserves the death penalty? And you agree with abortions?
 
Allon said:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/03/01/lebanon.protests/index.html

Lebanese protested in the masses and forced the government to resign, they want syria to leave lebanon. Finally!

I read it this morning here in a newspapaer and it gave me goosepimples.

Seeing thousands of lebanese people smiling and cheering in the photo's, they look exactly like young Israeli's.

Maybe my dream to go to beirut and have humus one day will come true!!!

What you guys think?

Bush - can he take any credit? It makes me cringe to think he can.

Will I be able to go to beirut with an Israeli passport?

Will I have sex with Lebanese hotties?

Come on, full political discussion needed here!
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beirut is a really nice city, and most of the young girls there think that the kinda shit brittney spears and the other sluts wear on TV is standard..so they wear it!.
toobad i dont speak the arabic :worried:
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Not exactly:

Anyone should be allowed to marry anyone who wants to marry them back.

No one should be executed for any reason whatsoever.

Abortions, hard subject. I think women should be able to free themselves of the burden in the early stages of pregnancy if the coming child is no wanted. It is for the better.

Do you think a woman who is raped should be able to abort?

Anyone ever heard of a place called lebanon. what happened here? My fault right?
 
Allon said:
I do not say it is solely a religous point of view, I am saying that it is backward.

Ok, forget the abortion issue.

How can you support a government that obviously does not see modern way of life and modern way of seeing life a reality and constantly try to take peoples thoughts and morals backwards?

Liberation of the soul, body and mind is a way of life the BUSH seems to want to crush.
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Backward how? Because its in disagreement with your views? The funny thing is that sexual morality (ie : absitinence, nongamy) and marriage were forward progressions in human development. Your "enlightened views" are nothing more than a regression to the state the prompted the devlopment of those beliefs and institutions. They arent new, it is simply that none of the societies which practiced those concepts survived. In a completely secular sense they are a societal dead end.

I have no idea what liberation of the soul. mind and body means, but 99.9% of the time with liberals it simply means more sex, and I dont want to pay for the consequnces of what I do.

Screw who you wish, but then pay the bill afterwards, and dont ask me to do it. I didnt sleep with the bitch
 
Allon said:
Not exactly:

Anyone should be allowed to marry anyone who wants to marry them back.

No one should be executed for any reason whatsoever.

Abortions, hard subject. I think women should be able to free themselves of the burden in the early stages of pregnancy if the coming child is no wanted. It is for the better.

Do you think a woman who is raped should be able to abort?

Anyone ever heard of a place called lebanon. what happened here? My fault right?
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Anyone who agrees with gay marriage is gay. Whats next? People marrying there dogs?

There are people who are dying from starvation in third world countries who would do anything to live in an north american prison rather then their present situation. So if if some piece of shit decide to go out and rape children and shit like that then there is no way that I would let him/her live by sending them to prison. Ive been to prison, it aint that bad. No torture or nothing like that so whats the point?

Abortions are wrong. If a woman is raped than they should have the choice to abbort or not. But if some slut wants to spread her legs and then rufuse to take care of the kid, too fucking bad.
 
JerseyArt said:
Backward how? Because its in disagreement with your views? The funny thing is that sexual morality (ie : absitinence, nongamy) and marriage were forward progressions in human development. Your "enlightened views" are nothing more than a regression to the state the prompted the devlopment of those beliefs and institutions. They arent new, it is simply that none of the societies which practiced those concepts survived. In a completely secular sense they are a societal dead end.

I have no idea what liberation of the soul. mind and body means, but 99.9% of the time with liberals it simply means more sex, and I dont want to pay for the consequnces of what I do.

Screw who you wish, but then pay the bill afterwards, and dont ask me to do it. I didnt sleep with the bitch
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That reads so funny with your signature following what you said.

Freedom means to not be limited by views of society around you.
What bill needs to be paid?
None of the society that practised these concepts survived?
I will give you one example of Holland. There must be more, but yes they are almost non existent, it is not they they did not survive maign, it is that radical conservatives like bush pushed them out.

Societies based on radical liberation can exist and should.

That is why more than ever we need to resist leaders like bush with their false promises of security, old fashioned prejudices and warmongering attitudes.
 
JerseyArt said:
LOL

Love the way you guys insert "even the most ardent" to support an otherwise baseless and untrue statement.

Not only are they all over the print/tv/and radio media doing just that, even liberals like Thomas Friedman in the NY tImes are doing the same.

Nice try Wodin, but you should have waitied 6 months till eevryone had forgotten what had happened.
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I didn't say neocons or fox news. I said conservatives.
 
JustJacked said:
Anyone who agrees with gay marriage is gay. Whats next? People marrying there dogs?

There are people who are dying from starvation in third world countries who would do anything to live in an north american prison rather then their present situation. So if if some piece of shit decide to go out and rape children and shit like that then there is no way that I would let him/her live by sending them to prison. Ive been to prison, it aint that bad. No torture or nothing like that so whats the point?

Abortions are wrong. If a woman is raped than they should have the choice to abbort or not. But if some slut wants to spread her legs and then rufuse to take care of the kid, too fucking bad.
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your very conservative.

i don tneccessarily agree with you
 
WODIN said:
I didn't say neocons or fox news. I said conservatives.
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Conservatives like Thomas Friedman?
 
JustJacked said:
Anyone who agrees with gay marriage is gay. Whats next? People marrying there dogs?

There are people who are dying from starvation in third world countries who would do anything to live in an north american prison rather then their present situation. So if if some piece of shit decide to go out and rape children and shit like that then there is no way that I would let him/her live by sending them to prison. Ive been to prison, it aint that bad. No torture or nothing like that so whats the point?

Abortions are wrong. If a woman is raped than they should have the choice to abbort or not. But if some slut wants to spread her legs and then rufuse to take care of the kid, too fucking bad.
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I am not gay and I agree with gay marriage, come on man, you telling me you cannot see something from another persons point of view? Even if it is not your sexual preference, you cannot accept that MANY men live this lifestyle and DESERVE everyright anyone else gets.
A dog cannot agree to marry me, not in the intellectual sense of the understanding so maybe marriage to dogs should be kept illegal.

You comparing gays to dogs? If you are then lets stop this conversation as it will be pointless.

Execution is murder, it is barbaric.

Maybe someone who kills thousands of people should be executed but only if the proof is 100%

anything else and the punishment should be punishment, not death, most modern countries in the world support this, America is one of the only modern countries that has not evolved to that stage yet and yet has the highest crime rate.
 
SublimeZM said:
your very conservative.

i don tneccessarily agree with you
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I believe in solidarity. Allon here doesnt agree with the death penalty but he agrees with abortion. I dont understand this.
 
JustJacked said:
I believe in solidarity. Allon here doesnt agree with the death penalty but he agrees with abortion. I dont understand this.
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Good point.

I hold the freedom and quality of life above all.

You think a woman should not have a right to delete her fetus yet you wanna execute humans who may if given time and punishment evolve into better humans.
 
Ok, guys, I gotta go soon, been nice talking. May post another once or tweice b4 I go, I hope Lebanon gets mentioned at least another 2 times before this thread dies :)
 
Allon said:
I am not gay and I agree with gay marriage, come on man, you telling me you cannot see something from another persons point of view? Even if it is not your sexual preference, you cannot accept that MANY men live this lifestyle and DESERVE everyright anyone else gets.
A dog cannot agree to marry me, not in the intellectual sense of the understanding so maybe marriage to dogs should be kept illegal.

You comparing gays to dogs? If you are then lets stop this conversation as it will be pointless.

Execution is murder, it is barbaric.

Maybe someone who kills thousands of people should be executed but only if the proof is 100%

anything else and the punishment should be punishment, not death, most modern countries in the world support this, America is one of the only modern countries that has not evolved to that stage yet and yet has the highest crime rate.
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What is punishment? If someone goes and rapes and murders an innocent child why the fuck should the people pay for that person to live in prison safely? How about this, you commit a crime worthy of death you get put in a cell with no food, electricity or anything that costs money, and you stay there until you die. Why not? Innocent people are dying all over the world and your gonna let some piece of shit live for free with no worries?


<---------Those are my beliefs.
 
Allon said:
Good point.

I hold the freedom and quality of life above all.

You think a woman should not have a right to delete her fetus yet you wanna execute humans who may if given time and punishment evolve into better humans.
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I beleive that people should be given a second chance to better themselves, but there are certain people who dont deserve a second chance. Pre-meditated rape/murder should be punished by death.
 
It's a popular belief along many, including my family, that the moest beautiful women in the world are in Israel. Is this true, allon? My parents haev been there many a time, but I haven't been there yet.

However, my cousin's sister got married to an Israeli guy once, and I almost cried when I saw his sister at the wedding. Hotness x 10
 
WODIN said:
I mean neocons like friedman.
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He's a classic liberal maing.


This is exactly what I eman about the left. Ignore reality, and fill the void with whatever nonsense comes to mind
 
Allon said:
Execution is murder, it is barbaric.

Maybe someone who kills thousands of people should be executed but only if the proof is 100%

anything else and the punishment should be punishment, not death, most modern countries in the world support this, America is one of the only modern countries that has not evolved to that stage yet and yet has the highest crime rate.
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You might like to view this then. Its VERY GRAPHIC and only for those with a strong stomach..

Hezbollah execution (click here)

Btw. About the debate. Lebanon and the arab world cried long about UN resolutions 425 & 426 for an Israeli withdrawal from South Lebanon, maybe they should all now be putting those same energies into UN resolution 1559.

As for you going Beirut, not as a tourist my friend!.
 
JerseyArt said:
He's a classic liberal maing.


This is exactly what I eman about the left. Ignore reality, and fill the void with whatever nonsense comes to mind
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He's a neocon. Look up the definition. You have some liberals and some conservatives who have adopted the once abandoned liberal policy of spreading democracy. Hence the phrase neconservatism in which you adopt the old spread the democracy policy.
 
WODIN said:
He's a neocon. Look up the definition. You have some liberals and some conservatives who have adopted the once abandoned liberal policy of spreading democracy. Hence the phrase neconservatism in which you adopt the old spread the democracy policy.
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Seriously maing, I think you are confusing him with the economist or someone else. He's a liberal icon

But if you wish to define new conservatives as being the ones supporting the spread of representative government you wont get any objection from me. That of course puts in opposition to representataive democracies, but what else is new. Thats alwasy been true, just I hadnt realized they were no longer pretending otherwise







neoconservatism
An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: “The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s” (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).
 
In The Thinking World Being Called a Neo-Con Isnt a Good Thing.

You Dont Mind I see.... :)

OK ....Neo-Fascist Then?
 
perfectworld said:
In The Thinking World Being Called a Neo-Con Isnt a Good Thing.

You Dont Mind I see.... :)

OK ....Neo-Fascist Then?
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Neo fascists = Modern day liberal political movement.

Aside from some unrelated (and non defining) war mongering what part of national socialism didnt you like?
 
JerseyArt said:
Neo fascists = Modern day liberal political movement.

Aside from some unrelated (and non defining) war mongering what part of national socialism didnt you like?
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Are You Really That Wrong or Are You Just Messing Around?
 
perfectworld said:
Are You Really That Wrong or Are You Just Messing Around?
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National socialism was nothing more than a belief in strong central government and state control of the economy. What part of that political philosophy do you find objectionable?

Liberals toss around these terms with little to no comprehension of what they are saying. Naziis were evil, republicans are evil, therefore republicans are nazis.

National socilaism is completely incompatible with republican political philosophy. Ironically enough it is the goal of every liberal thinker.


Its awful isnt it
 
JerseyArt said:
National socialism was nothing more than a belief in strong central government and state control of the economy. What part of that political philosophy do you find objectionable?

Liberals toss around these terms with little to no comprehension of what they are saying. Naziis were evil, republicans are evil, therefore republicans are nazis.

National socilaism is completely incompatible with republican political philosophy. Ironically enough it is the goal of every liberal thinker.


Its awful isnt it
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Dude...

Thats a Very Broad statement.

I listened To a Nazi Soldier Yesterday talking about the parallels On Hitler and Bush.

The Points and Conclusions He made were Very Disturbing.

He was 80 Years Old.

He Killed Jews.

And was sentenced To Death For desertion.

You seem Like Your Pretty Smart...

Either Just Fucking around Or Are Evil and Dont Care about what Is Really Happening.
 
as nice as it sounds for the syrians to be leaving lebanon (though they were bound to leave anyway, as soon as syria is invaded by the "coalition" (read: a swarm of americans, a troop of brits, 3 australians, a new zealander, and a bunch of japs without guns) how long do you guys think the lebs will take before they start bombing the shit out of each other again?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
 
GoldenDelicious said:
as nice as it sounds for the syrians to be leaving lebanon (though they were bound to leave anyway, as soon as syria is invaded by the "coalition" (read: a swarm of americans, a troop of brits, 3 australians, a new zealander, and a bunch of japs without guns) how long do you guys think the lebs will take before they start bombing the shit out of each other again?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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What?.
 
Do me a favour Jersey and distinguish between liberals and Democrats? A true liberal does not subscribe to most of what you are saying they do.
 
And Justjacked? If we let gays marry, why not dogs? If you support gay marriage you must be gay? Give me a break. Every man and woman is entitled to the same benefits that are offered. You cannot grant those benefits to one couple and turn around and refuse them to another. Many conservatives seem to have a problem with the sanctity of marriage although who knows why ;) That's fine, call it a union or whatever you want but they must be given the opportunity to qualify for the same benefits you and I can.
 
bluepeter said:
And Justjacked? If we let gays marry, why not dogs? If you support gay marriage you must be gay? Give me a break. Every man and woman is entitled to the same benefits that are offered. You cannot grant those benefits to one couple and turn around and refuse them to another. Many conservatives seem to have a problem with the sanctity of marriage although who knows why ;) That's fine, call it a union or whatever you want but they must be given the opportunity to qualify for the same benefits you and I can.
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Marriage is for familys. A man and a woman create a family. Not two men or two woman. If the Church decides to allow gay marriages than it needs to be burned and all the members put to death by stoning.

We all have diferent opinions. These are mine.
 
JustJacked said:
Marriage is for familys. A man and a woman create a family. Not two men or two woman. If the Church decides to allow gay marriages than it needs to be burned and all the members put to death by stoning.

We all have diferent opinions. These are mine.
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Fair enough but by being against gay marriage or gay unions you are essentially admitting that not everyone should be treated equally.
 
bluepeter said:
Fair enough but by being against gay marriage or gay unions you are essentially admitting that not everyone should be treated equally.
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You get treated on your actions. Would you treat a sex offender the same way you treat a law abiding citizen?

Gay is wrong, period. Im sure a horse would get off on some chick giving it a blow job, but should we allow this? FUCK NO!
 
bluepeter said:
Fair enough but by being against gay marriage or gay unions you are essentially admitting that not everyone should be treated equally.
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And NO, not everyone should be treated eqaully. If someone steals from me hes not gonna be treated the same way I treat my best friend. You get the picture.
 
JustJacked said:
You get treated on your actions. Would you treat a sex offender the same way you treat a law abiding citizen?

Gay is wrong, period. Im sure a horse would get off on some chick giving it a blow job, but should we allow this? FUCK NO!
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Dude, we can't have a rational discussion on this if you are going to compare human beings to animals.

No, I wouldn't treat a sex offender the same way I would treat a law abiding citizen. What does that have to do with gays having the same rights as heterosexuals?
 
GoldenDelicious said:
syrians leave, civil war starts
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Probably, but that remains to be seen. Fact is the UN has passed resolution UN 1559 calling for a complete Syrian withdrawal from Lebanon. Let the UN put a peace keeping/enforcement force into Beirut and not the Multi-National Force which was put in during the early days of civil war. The UN has operated in the south of the country with UNIFIL. UNIFIL still has a force of 5000 monitoring the Israeli/Lebanese border, plus there's a small UNTSO and OGL force monitoring the borders too.

Either way, Syria must leave Lebanon. Must give up its claim (Lebanon included) to the Shebaa Farms region also. Their serving no usefull purpose in Lebanon. Their presence further destabilizes the Lebanese/Israeli border and hinder's political change in the Middle East.
 
bluepeter said:
Dude, we can't have a rational discussion on this if you are going to compare human beings to animals.

No, I wouldn't treat a sex offender the same way I would treat a law abiding citizen. What does that have to do with gays having the same rights as heterosexuals?
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Gay is WRONG, period. Homosexuallity is the same as beastiality.

Ben Zoma, a wise man, said this.....

Who is wise ?
He who learns from every person.

Who is rich ?
He who is content with what he has.

Who is to be honoured ?
He who honours others.

Who is strong ?
Hw who subdues his passion.

People would rather put pleasure before what is right. If someone really enjoys killing people should we allow him to do so because he enjoys it? No because its wrong. Same thing with homosexuallity.
 
JustJacked said:
Gay is WRONG, period. Homosexuallity is the same as beastiality.

Ben Zoma, a wise man, said this.....

Who is wise ?
He who learns from every person.

Who is rich ?
He who is content with what he has.

Who is to be honoured ?
He who honours others.

Who is strong ?
Hw who subdues his passion.

People would rather put pleasure before what is right. If someone really enjoys killing people should we allow him to do so because he enjoys it? No because its wrong. Same thing with homosexuallity.
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Guess this isn't a topic on Lebanon anymore?.
 
JustJacked said:
Gay is WRONG, period. Homosexuallity is the same as beastiality.

Ben Zoma, a wise man, said this.....

Who is wise ?
He who learns from every person.

Who is rich ?
He who is content with what he has.

Who is to be honoured ?
He who honours others.

Who is strong ?
Hw who subdues his passion.

People would rather put pleasure before what is right. If someone really enjoys killing people should we allow him to do so because he enjoys it? No because its wrong. Same thing with homosexuallity.
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I'm stunned. Good luck with that man.
 
Just jacked, I dunno what to say to you. It sucks to know people beleive in things you do. I know lots of you exist, but it sucks every time I see it
 
I live in hope the lebanese will build a good government and I as an Israeli will be able to go there for a holiday!
 
Allon said:
I live in hope the lebanese will build a good government and I as an Israeli will be able to go there for a holiday!
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A friend of mine who is Lebanese was driving thru Syria, I think, and they stoped him for a checkpoint. He had a tatoo on his arm that was kind of fucked up and the arabs didnt believe he was a Leb. They thought he was Jewish and that it was a Jewish Star of David tatoo on his arm so they burned it off his arm.
 
Yeh, I have heard this also, also heaerd that beirut people are simialar to tel aviv people, look simialar, dress simialar, all have cell phones like us here... we need peace with them coz we will have so much fun if that happens if not for any other reason.
 
Allon said:
Yeh, I have heard this also, also heaerd that beirut people are simialar to tel aviv people, look simialar, dress simialar, all have cell phones like us here... we need peace with them coz we will have so much fun if that happens if not for any other reason.
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Yes their pretty similar to Israeli's in Beirut, and just as expensive too!. Most Christians in Beirut would be pro-Israel but they'll never trust you again, they'll never trust anyone to come and help them again. Unfortunetly the rest of the country is still living in the dark ages, more so in the south where Hezbollah have a stronger hold on the populace. Oh, they've no public transport worth mentioning, and while Beirut is pretty good to party you only have to scratch the survice to see its just another messed up Arab country.
 
CrazyRussian said:
It's a popular belief along many, including my family, that the moest beautiful women in the world are in Israel. Is this true, allon? My parents haev been there many a time, but I haven't been there yet.

However, my cousin's sister got married to an Israeli guy once, and I almost cried when I saw his sister at the wedding. Hotness x 10
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I dunno man, Brazilians are more my taste but yeh, Israelis are a mixture of many cultures, countries etc..
we have russian blondes, yemenites, morrocans, south americans, and the genes have all been mixing here the last 50 years so you get amazing woman like dark skinned and blonde like half russian half morrocan etc...

I close my eyes when walking down the street in Tel aviv in the summer coz otherwise I cannot remember where I am going...
 
bouncer said:
Yes their pretty similar to Israeli's in Beirut, and just as expensive too!. Most Christians in Beirut would be pro-Israel but they'll never trust you again, they'll never trust anyone to come and help them again. Unfortunetly the rest of the country is still living in the dark ages, more so in the south where Hezbollah have a stronger hold on the populace. Oh, they've no public transport worth mentioning, and while Beirut is pretty good to party you only have to scratch the survice to see its just another messed up Arab country.
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Interesting man, I guessed as much.

Where you from, you lived in lebanon or just visited?
 
bouncer said:
It was brilliant. Fell in love with Israel!. Can't wait to return.
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I dunno how long ago you were here but you will probably be shocked by how much it has changed.
 
Damn, monster pwning of jerseyart by allon (of all people).


Now has anyone figured out WTF that is in allon's avatar? It looks like a glowing outline of an ear.
 
AAP said:
Damn, monster pwning of jerseyart by allon (of all people).


Now has anyone figured out WTF that is in allon's avatar? It looks like a glowing outline of an ear.
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he told me once,I forgot
from memory I'm thinking it's a samoth type thing
 
AAP said:
Damn, monster pwning of jerseyart by allon (of all people).


Now has anyone figured out WTF that is in allon's avatar? It looks like a glowing outline of an ear.
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i fail to see how allon pwned ja here, and i read every post.
your dislike of him clouds your poly vision, because frankly his arguements seem stronger than yours
 
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