Leaving powerlifting for good!

[strongestsurvive]

I don't like the way the sport has been going, If you bench 465 without a shirt, if you got the money you can go out and buy a triple ply denim with kevlar stitched into the seams and bench 750 (Bill Craqford has done it). Powerlifting is supposed to be a sport of who can lift the most weights, not who is wearing the most shirts sewed together. I saw louie when he hit his 600 pound bench he had 5 denim shirts sewed together with kevlar stitched into the seams by Karren Keider. I have done with single poly inzer 800sq, 600bn, and 700dl at last years USPF NYS meet @288 body weight in the junior division (21 years old). I have been competing since 15 and have been training since 12. I set a World APF bench record for the teenage 18-19 class in the 308 with a 550 bench (single ply poly). I won the USPF JUNIOR Nationals in 98 as a Superheaveyweight and quailified to go to the IPF Junior worlds (this is when the IPF was still apart of the USPF), but passed on the meet to go to college, I would have misssed the first 2.5 weeks of school. I am going to start competing in the Scottish Highland Games, I have done a few amateur competitions and I don't think that any equipment will find its way into that sport. Unless someone brings in a catapult to throw the caber, then I will quit. Don't mean to offend anybody, everything I have stated is true even Bill Crawford, it is funny that a 750 Pound Bencher can't bench 475 without a shirt something doesn't make sense. Try explaining that to somebody who doesn't know powerlifting, but if you are a powerlifter it will make sense to you (the equipment).

Strongestsurvive

 

[b fold the truth]

Hmmmm...a very good friend of mine can pause 600 on his chest with no shirt but can't get 700 with a triple denim. Hmmm...something sounds fishy......

B True

 

[The mann]

 

[PowFit]

All powerlifters are going to the triple denims, huh? I bet 99% of the powerlifters on the planet have not even touched a triple. How can you say we are all going that route? If you a prob with Crawford or Simmons don't lift with them and don't go to the meets they do. What does it matter to you? You refer to a tiny percentage of lifters and say we are all like that? DON'T BE IGNORANT. You really can't believe that anybody benching 450 can put on a shirt and do 750. Sure Crawford works well with the shirts, but he does not get 300 pounds out of his. That is crap. The most I have ever heard from an expert bench shirt user was 100 pounds. With your logic and your bench you should be able to put on Crawford's shirt and bench well over 800. Why don't you do that? You can take home a fat check from the WPO.

 

[strongestsurvive]

It may be wrong to say that All powerlifters are going done that road, but the ones who are, ruin the totals of those who don't. And BILL CRAWFORD can't do a 475 without a shirt, He came out to syracuse and trained with Mike Ruggeria and I two weeks before the Arnold (where he benched 700) and couldn't even do 450 back then. Everone in upstate NY knose the truth about Bill that He can't bench 475 with out a shirt. HE GETS 275 POUNDS OUT OF A SHIRT. If you know him give him a call and ask him about the time he came out to syracuse and trained with Mike and John. He runs that Adirondack Nuatilus and everybody up there knows he can't lift the weights with out a shirt. Why I don't do it because I am not it the sport for money nor faking to be strong, I AM PROUD OF THE LIFTS I HAVE DONE AND KNOW I CAN DO THEM WITH OUT THE EQUIPMENT.

STRONGESTSURVIVE

 

[b fold the truth]

Sounds like you have a problem with this guy...not powerlifting.

He gets more out of his equipment than you do. Is that his fault? Just because someone chooses to live by the rules, does it make them wrong? No.

B True

 

[PowFit]

strongestsurvive Why leave the sport because of this? If you lift in the IPF, USAPL, NASA, WNPF or a few other orgs you will not be competing with a double ply user. I don't even know of a federation that allows the triples you were talking about. A lift done in a 3 ply garment is not recognized by virtually every federation I know of. Nothing to get all upset about and leave the game. If you are pushing crazy huge numbers like you say you are, than I am sure you inspire lots of lifters. You inspire me!Don't sweat the double and triple ply guys. When you are on the platform it is all about you. We are all brothers in powerlifting. It would be a shame for you to leave.

 

[powerlifterjay]

I have talked to Bill Crawford on the phone and ya he gets alot out of his shirt but he says his best with his shirt is like 760lbs. But he bneches 600 raw. Thats what he says anyway. If you seen different then you seen it , but that is not what he claims.

 

[BigPhysicsBastard]

I don't enter plifting contests and I've never worn a bench shirt.........but I am in engineering, and from what I've read about these shirts I wouldn't discount a 275lb increase in one's bench from using them. I read one guy saying the bar wouldn't touch his chest unless he had over 400lbs on..........how can anyone read that and say bench shirts only give a "minimal" advantage??
The friggin thing is like a compressed coil, those fibers are just chomping at the bit to return to their original state. That's going beyond "supporting" the rotators, that's purely a form of "'aid".
Now I could care less if someone wants to wear one, or if meets allow them........really, who gives a fuck??? But those guys that wear them shouldn't be allowed to play it off like it's "all them" lifting the weight........cause it ain't!!!

 

[flapwrlftr]

Strongest,
You have some of your information wrong. You are also putting down two friends of mine. Bill benched 625 raw before he hit his 750 this year. So, yes he does get a lot out of a bench shirt, but not 250 lbs. You need to keep in mind that Bill doesn't train year round. Depending on when you catch him, his strength varies a lot. The shirt he benched 750 in was a double canvas shirt.

Lou's shirt was a double denim with a patch in it. I put the shirt on him at that meet, so don't tell me differently. Lou also gets a lot out of his shirt. Is it wrong for them to train in a way that allows them to get the most out of their equipment? Who is smarter? Them for getting the largest carryover or you for not taking advantage of what the rules allow????

If you are against equipment, that's fine. Just don't compare yourself to those who choose to use equipment. Lift for yourself. not for others.