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Lean Bulking Cycle?

LostCauze

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Hey guys,
It's been quite a while since i've been on here because I couldn't access my account for some time. I'm setting up a bulking cycle and i wanted to get some opinions from people with more experience with cycles.

I'm finishing up a cut (no gear/supps) and I'm currently sitting at about 10% bodyfat. At the end I expect to be around 8%. I plan to run a bulking cycle starting around January but I'm not sure exactly what to run.

Originally I was thinking about running this:

Cycle: 14 weeks
week 1-14 test e 500mg/week (250x2)
week 1-12 deca 400mg/week (200x2)
week 1-6 dbol 50mg/day

arimidex eod @ .25 mg
caber e3d @ .25 mg

HCG:
week 1-14 1000iu/week
week 15-16 2000iu/week

PCT: week 17-20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Novla 40/40/40/20

The thing I'm not sure about is the "quality" of the gains i will get from this. My GOAL is to stay as lean as I can while putting on the most mass as possible (keep bf around 10% max). I would rather put on 10 lbs of solid mass with around a 2% bf increase then put on 20 lbs with a heavy increase in fat that i will have to cut and lose valuable muscle gained.

Now i know that diet has alot to do with it but i insure you my diet is spot on. currently eating 255g Pro 100g Carb 50g Fat and im losing approx 2.5 lbs a week (still maintaining muscle mass surprisingly). I WILL BE adjusting my carb and fat intake to meet baseline then again to a surplus before my bulking cycle.

This being said, would this be a decent cycle for my goals or would there be a better cycle to run? I've been doing alot of research the last 6 months and I have found alot of people stating they made very decent gains (10-20lbs) on a cycle while reducing their bf% by using drugs that help to promote fat loss. For me this would be optimal but its a very controversial subject. Also they claimed they looked their best while on these cycles. Better muscle definition, vascularity, harder muscles, etc. Drugs such as (eq, var, win, mast, primo.. also common t-3, clen)

so to get to my main question. In personal experience has anyone found any drug to put on some quality lean mass while reducing their bodyfat? also could i accomplish the same thing with my cycle stated above or would changing my cycle to these drugs that "promote fat loss" be optimal. Or is it a bunch of bull s*** and a bulk is a bulk and a cut is a cut and the cycles should be kept separate?

Please Help!

**note**
not really sure if I'm ready to mess with compounds such as tren, or prop. I would consider it but only if its truly worth it.

25yo 190lbs 5'10" 10%bf(will be 8%) 2 previous cycles (test, dbol) and (test, dbol, a little deca to see how i react/joints) quite a bit of experience in prohormones. 7 years lifting,(3years powerlifting, 4 years bodybuilding)
 
your nuts if you think your going to drop 2% body fat on this cycle... your more likely to add 2 or more at least and that's if your diet and training are spot on... you could put on more than 20 lbs. on this cycle but it will be a watery mess... your running all the wrong things for your goals... you can run a completely different cycle for the 10 quality lbs. you are after... here is an option for you...

1-16 test cyp 350 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 n2guard
7-14 hcgenerate ES
15-16 hcg 500 ius week
17-18 hcg 1000 ius week
13-18 winstrol 50 mg day
13-18 n2guard

pct 19-22

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators



USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…
 
your nuts if you think your going to drop 2% body fat on this cycle... your more likely to add 2 or more at least and that's if your diet and training are spot on... you could put on more than 20 lbs. on this cycle but it will be a watery mess... your running all the wrong things for your goals... you can run a completely different cycle for the 10 quality lbs. you are after... here is an option for you...

1-16 test cyp 350 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 n2guard
7-14 hcgenerate ES
15-16 hcg 500 ius week
17-18 hcg 1000 ius week
13-18 winstrol 50 mg day
13-18 n2guard

pct 19-22

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
phytoserms
hcgenerate
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day


USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…

dylangemelli- thank you for your reply, its greatly appreciated.

I should've been a little more clear on this. I'm aware that i will not lose any more fat, and will likely gain fat while running the test, deca, dbol cycle while on a calorie surplus. Im just trying to get the most possible lean quality gains with the least amount of fat. if i could use something that would proivide me this while reducing fat that would be optimal. and again my diet and training is spot on year around.

This cycle you're suggesting sounds like a very good cycle to promote these types of gains that I'm seeking. Have you had any personal experience with this cycle before? and if so what kind of results did you see?
my only real concern for this cycle is that im not sure about the availability of the Tbol from my source. I'm currently looking into it but i haven't heard back yet. If the Tbol is not something i can get my hands on is there something else that you might suggest?

Thank you for your time =)
 
Your carbs are very low. Like really low.

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Yes I know they are low at the moment but I had an opportunity sprung on me and I needed to lower them to attain a 2.5lb/week fat loss. I'm almost at the end of my cut and will be brining my carbs up substantially. They will be sitting around 400g or so for bulking
 
There we go. Maybe don't just incease them right up the that. Increase it increments. You'll see week to week how your body is reacting. Adjust it accordingly.

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There we go. Maybe don't just incease them right up the that. Increase it increments. You'll see week to week how your body is reacting. Adjust it accordingly.

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That's my plan lol probably should've gone more in depth on that too. Will be raising my carbs and fats in increments so I can adjust to them and keep any fat gain to a minimum. I'm starting by raising in 60g carb and 4-5g fat increments. No set times I'll be doing this but basing it off my body's response. If i need to adjust my increments I will do so according to how I react
 
dylangemelli- thank you for your reply, its greatly appreciated.

I should've been a little more clear on this. I'm aware that i will not lose any more fat, and will likely gain fat while running the test, deca, dbol cycle while on a calorie surplus. Im just trying to get the most possible lean quality gains with the least amount of fat. if i could use something that would proivide me this while reducing fat that would be optimal. and again my diet and training is spot on year around.

This cycle you're suggesting sounds like a very good cycle to promote these types of gains that I'm seeking. Have you had any personal experience with this cycle before? and if so what kind of results did you see?
my only real concern for this cycle is that im not sure about the availability of the Tbol from my source. I'm currently looking into it but i haven't heard back yet. If the Tbol is not something i can get my hands on is there something else that you might suggest?

Thank you for your time =)

if you can't get tbol then kickstart with anavar or winstrol... if you go with winstrol then you can still run it again on the back end as well... i highly recommend incorporating gw-501516 on this cycle to enhance it to the highest level... check out SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators for your gw and read my articles on why gw is such an important addition to any cycle...
 
if you can't get tbol then kickstart with anavar or winstrol... if you go with winstrol then you can still run it again on the back end as well... i highly recommend incorporating gw-501516 on this cycle to enhance it to the highest level... check out SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators for your gw and read my articles on why gw is such an important addition to any cycle...

Still waiting on my guy to get back with me, hopefully he has it. Would you suggest oral or inject winny? I prefer orals but I don't mind injecting if it's more beneficial.
I'll deff take a look into Sarms, thanks for the suggestion.
Is there anything else that you'd suggest adding to this cycle like t3 or clen or should I save that for some other time?
Thanks
 
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