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Lean Bulk Side-Free Cycle? Is it possible?

twistedsblade

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Hi, I am about to prepare for my second AAS cycle, here are my current stats

23 years old
6'0" 190lbs
7% bf
Lifting for 5 years

My last cycle went like this

Week 1-4 Dbol 25mg a day
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg a week
HCG Week 9-10...I think I did like 500mg every three days or something along that line
Weeks 11-14 Nolva 40/40/20/20

I ate pretty dirty about 350 grams of protein a day and not being very careful about carbs initially because I was lean before this and didn't typically gain fat. I went up to about 205lbs from 175...and I would say about 15 pounds of that was fat and water weight.

I didn't realize how much weight I gained but now after being off of the cycle for about 6 months and looking back at pictures of me mid-cycle...Holy shit!! I had a greasy moonface! I didn't watch my sodium intake very much over this period but I did take two showers a day and I still had a greasy sheen in pictures...plus acne that erupted on my chest around week 6. I also took some nolva for the last two weeks I was on dbol because my nips started to get itchy and sensitive and puffy.

Anyway, I am now preparing for two different marathons (one in october, one in december) and I am doing heavy cardio training a few days per week with a friend who is competing with me also. I would like to go on a cycle this summer, but...

A. Make it as much of a lean (keepable) gain cycle as possible
B. Have as few androgenic side effects as possible
C. Be able to maintain a strict cardio training regime while doing this lean bulk.

The last time I was on dbol...I felt like I could lift up a car...but run three miles? Noooo way. Any cardiovascular ability I had was shot when on AAS.

So I am thinking about running another cycle starting in about a month...I will eat completely clean , run about seven miles three nights a week, and stick to a good weight training regime during this period.

Does anyone have a good idea of a cycle I could run while training this way? I would really like to avoid all bloat and acne (because I am prone to it)...I am almost certain I am going to drop the D-bol this time around....I heard people talk about EQ or Winny being a good suggestion...but then I also heard a lot of people say that it was a waste of time and money and it would be better to just up the test and run an AI with it...but then I read that running an AI with it is completely counter productive and would make more sense to just lower the dose altogether?

Most people say "Any cycle can be a bulking or a cutting cycle depending on how you eat", but I completely disagree if anyone tries to say that Dbol could be a good cutting steroid.

Assuming money wouldn't be a serious issue, what would a good cycle for my goals?

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Weeks 1-16 EQ 500 mg/wk
Weeks 1-17 test e 400 mg/week
Weeks 1-5 Tbol 50 mg/day
HCG 500 iu/week only in weeks 3-5, 9-11, and 15-17

That's what's up!
 
primo and tbol
 
Test 250mg
Primo 400mg
Anavar 50mg

That's as good as its gonna get for gains vs sides.



I'd go with that one. (Maybe lower the var to avoid elevated LDL levels).

Your training.diet/supps are a factor too, but gear wise, that's a pretty pure anabolic cylce with just enough test to counteract the suppression.
 
Test 250mg
Primo 400mg
Anavar 50mg

That's as good as its gonna get for gains vs sides.

What kind of gains could I expect with this as a cycle? And how long would I run it for? I didn't even think Test was worth running at less than 400mg/week. It does look side free but I feel like with a stack like this I would do better just running epistane with tamoxifen PCT for the money it would cost.

This cycle looks really easy as far as sides go though. If I upped the test but added an AI if bloat got too much would it pretty much just defeat the purpose?
 
What kind of gains could I expect with this as a cycle?
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You won't know till you try. More than if you don;t do it.


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And how long would I run it for?

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I say 8 weeks.


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I didn't even think Test was worth running at less than 400mg/week.

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Says who?



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It does look side free but I feel like with a stack like this I would do better just running epistane with tamoxifen PCT for the money it would cost.

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Then you're back to getting nasty sides. Your call.


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This cycle looks really easy as far as sides go though. If I upped the test but added an AI if bloat got too much would it pretty much just defeat the purpose?

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Yes
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currently running mast/primo/low dose test kicked it with tbol ending it with mhn pretty much the sickest side free lean bulk/cutter ever
 
too early to give full details I just gave a short update in my log
 
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