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Well I just posted in another thread how my wife is down, and after telling her about my spring cutter she put her foot down and said NO MORE! Apparently I was extremely moody on last cycle and had no patients LOL

Will that stop me, probably not, but she controlls our $$ and I need help from those in the know, on how to stash funds without her knowing. I've tried the obvious $40 ATM stash $30, etc. but thats too slow, i'm talking a few $500 hits

I need some ideas!
 
Dude start by working on you mood control.... You may not like what your wife says about it but think about it --- YOU choose to run the cycles and SHE has to deal w/ your random aggression & moodiness? That's really no different than when people choose to do competition w/ aggressive cutting diets and get pissy as hell on low-carb days. And then cry about how no one understands what they are going thru. It was YOUR choice to engage in an activity that you KNOW is mood altering - therefore it is either your responsibility to get control of & manage yourself or else stop doing it. Its not her problem at all - she has to deal w/ your decision and that's not fair.
 
Sassy69 said:
Dude start by working on you mood control.... You may not like what your wife says about it but think about it --- YOU choose to run the cycles and SHE has to deal w/ your random aggression & moodiness? That's really no different than when people choose to do competition w/ aggressive cutting diets and get pissy as hell on low-carb days. And then cry about how no one understands what they are going thru. It was YOUR choice to engage in an activity that you KNOW is mood altering - therefore it is either your responsibility to get control of & manage yourself or else stop doing it. Its not her problem at all - she has to deal w/ your decision and that's not fair.
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Are you kidding me?! When she drinks a bottle of wine and runs around like she's still a sorority slut, do I tell her to stop drinking?

I must have hit a nerve, i'm not saying it's her problem at all, I'm saying I want my shit and she is making it difficult. It sounds like you had a bad experience with this.
 
medrep said:
Are you kidding me?! When she drinks a bottle of wine and runs around like she's still a sorority slut, do I tell her to stop drinking?

I must have hit a nerve, i'm not saying it's her problem at all, I'm saying I want my shit and she is making it difficult. It sounds like you had a bad experience with this.
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Does she make all the income or do you contribute?

Smack her on the ass, take some fucking money out of the checking acct, and start shooting. Better yet make her give you the shots. Or everytime she drinks a bottle of wine fuck her in the butt.
 
medrep said:
Are you kidding me?! When she drinks a bottle of wine and runs around like she's still a sorority slut, do I tell her to stop drinking?

I must have hit a nerve, i'm not saying it's her problem at all, I'm saying I want my shit and she is making it difficult. It sounds like you had a bad experience with this.
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ouch...

sounds like the relationship is a bit rocky :o
 
i have the same kinda problem w/ my wife, but over past 15 years, i've learned how to manipulate everything, including, stashing $, buying big cycles, doing big cycles, controlling attitude.this is an individual skill young grasshopper, u needed to start this years ago...it may be too late for you...if u have a job w/ a direct deposit, u can set up a seperate account w/ $ going to an account unknown by her, each week. luckily for me, i can change this amount each week via internet....i work more OT, more goes in the juice fund...BUT if she really PUT her foot down, it's either stop and give in, or fight and live in misery...or chop her head off...
- start w/ controlling your attitude...without that u have little chance...
 
FRC21 said:
Does she make all the income or do you contribute?

Smack her on the ass, take some fucking money out of the checking acct, and start shooting. Better yet make her give you the shots. Or everytime she drinks a bottle of wine fuck her in the butt.[/

butt love will swing her for sure..
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Its not fair for guys to put up with their girls bullshit and blame their sudden anger from being on the rag is it? Its ok for a girl to be moody and treat their man like shit cuz they are on their period but for the guy to be in the same state by taking aas its not? I know what he is doing is voluntary and the wife cant control whether she has her period or not....its still kinda fucked up.

So in other words...dont tell your girl you do aas. Cuz then they blame EVERY little sudden mood changes on it. Even though you probably f*ck her better while on...they seem to forget about that!

( This is just me ranting, Im going through the same dilema and damn it Im putting my foot down)
 
You need to sit down and talk with your beloved spouse since it seems you have issues to resolve.

The arrangement I have with my spouse is that she and I each manage our own spare change. So long as the mortgage and bills are paid, she and I can each do whatever we will with our own and it's not a matter for communal scrutiny.
 
BRO, I HAD THE SAME PROB

go open up a serperate account..and stash money in there..thats what i did..then get the "GEAR" sent to another address.(OPEN UP A PO BOX)
 
I'll agree w/ you on the alcohol thing - however that is a relatively fleeting issue unless she's got a drinking problem. The difference between women's periods and you guys on a cycle is that we're built that way and we don't have a lot of choice in dealing w/ it. Granted its important to learn to manage it but its just part of our lives. YOU however, while on AAS (same as me or anyone else choosing to go into competition or go a on a low carb diet which also affects moods and not just in an isolated time period but in daily life), you have the CHOICE to do it and its no one else's responsibility but YOUR OWN to manage your mood swings. If they are truly that bad (and trust me, I've seen guys turn into a raving pricks while on and they don't even realize it), then you REALLY need to take a look at it-- the mood swings are PART of the cycle so just like you are going to not drink alcohol and take all sorts of supps to support the stress on your body, you should also be pro-active in learning to manage your moods.
 
here is a bit of advice, "hell hath no feury like a woman scorned." when she divorces your ass she will go and tell everyone that you are on the juice. now, you may be proud of this, however, your employer may take issue with it. i dont know what kind of work you do....but....with all of the new rage about the juice, ahhh, the public says, where did this shit (that has been around forever) come from. people tend to pass harsh judgement on us. granted, every time someone says steroids are bad for you, i say why? guess what they never know! keep her out of the loop, she may love you today-----she may hate you tom....jmo, carpe diem bro.
 
Sassy69 said:
Dude start by working on you mood control.... You may not like what your wife says about it but think about it --- YOU choose to run the cycles and SHE has to deal w/ your random aggression & moodiness? That's really no different than when people choose to do competition w/ aggressive cutting diets and get pissy as hell on low-carb days. And then cry about how no one understands what they are going thru. It was YOUR choice to engage in an activity that you KNOW is mood altering - therefore it is either your responsibility to get control of & manage yourself or else stop doing it. Its not her problem at all - she has to deal w/ your decision and that's not fair.
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PMS sound familiar? we deal with that EVERY fuckin month :(

and ps... my mood swings are LESS when im on than when i am off (and that includes when i had been off for 2+ years) I dunno if maybe i just try to control it more.. but i am WAY more stable on than off
 
ill tell you what.....send me 500$ threw paypal. And say your buying her a present....and then ill stop responding (like i screwed you over) and then send 450 cash to you (50$) i keep.......But the question remains, am i trust worthy????? :)
 
FRC21 said:
Does she make all the income or do you contribute?

Smack her on the ass, take some fucking money out of the checking acct, and start shooting. Better yet make her give you the shots. Or everytime she drinks a bottle of wine fuck her in the butt.
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Thats what sucks, I make 75% of the cash, meaning she works but makes far less

You guys are funny, we are happily married BTW, we just like to slam on each other, thats our relationship

I would set up a second account for my employer to deposit a % into each month, it would be fine for commission checks which are variable, but my base check she would notice if it was lower. Maybe I can just have them pull from the commission check, i'll see
 
medrep said:
Thats what sucks, I make 75% of the cash, meaning she works but makes far less

You guys are funny, we are happily married BTW, we just like to slam on each other, thats our relationship

I would set up a second account for my employer to deposit a % into each month, it would be fine for commission checks which are variable, but my base check she would notice if it was lower. Maybe I can just have them pull from the commission check, i'll see
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I'm sorry man, but you need to step up a little. I'm not saying throw a big fight and move out, but put your foot down. If you make 75% of the money its ok to spend a little. You really think she would do what you said with her money if she made 75% of the cash? Fuck no she would not listen to you. I know these fucking women, I've lived with many. Get your own checking acct that you keep YOUR money in and a joint acct for bills and only bills.
 
Just tell her that whatever you take out for yourself she can have the same amount to spend on herself. She should quickly see the benefits in the arrangement.
 
medrep said:
Well I just posted in another thread how my wife is down, and after telling her about my spring cutter she put her foot down and said NO MORE! Apparently I was extremely moody on last cycle and had no patients LOL

Will that stop me, probably not, but she controlls our $$ and I need help from those in the know, on how to stash funds without her knowing. I've tried the obvious $40 ATM stash $30, etc. but thats too slow, i'm talking a few $500 hits

I need some ideas!
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Search threads started by me and see my opinion on this LOL
 
Bro you need to do what's best for you. I told my gf when i started dating her that what I do with my body is my business, and haven't had a problem. I agreed to stop for a while when it comes time to ahve kids, but that's all. From what you've said it sounds like the relationship has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. Look at it this way, let's say you give in and stop. Then in a few weeks she gets drunk and cheats on you. Youre gonna boot her anyway, might as well live your life the way you want to. It goes without saying that relationships are built on trust and sacrifice, but I'm sure you know that this has NOTHING to do with gear. It has everything to do with her trying to see how far she can go in controlling you. Put your foot down. She'll either back off or leave. Either way you win. If it wasn't ghe gear you'd bet your ass it'd be something else.

Of course none of the above statements apply to all women...just most of them
 
shit, my wife trashed my gear twice last year worth about $2,200... I do side work for the extra cash and keep all my bonus and vacation checks.. I no longer take this moneys home and i keep my gear in a storage unit close to work..
 
Get some viagra and SLAM it to her.....show her whos boss.......but really, if your wife really dosent want you to do it that bad, maybee you should stop before it ruins your relationship.....because if that happens your AAS use may have turned in to an addiction.....those addictions arent good.
 
markmark said:
shit, my wife trashed my gear twice last year worth about $2,200... I do side work for the extra cash and keep all my bonus and vacation checks.. I no longer take this moneys home and i keep my gear in a storage unit close to work..
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If it were my wife, she would have been dead !
 
sort of same issue here. As far as aggression goes, I'm currently living by the principle that if I get angry, then no matter what, I'm going to assume it's the gear and that I'm wrong. It probably appears that I'm in a better mood when I'm on than when I'm off, which might actually be true since I tend to calm down once I walk away from my initial reactions.
 
I find it fascinating that you guys put a friggen controlled substance ahead of your wife.....

RE: women's PMS --- sure it sucks, but no we don't have a choice in the matter. You on AAS - you have a choice in the matter. The argument doesn't translate even tho both sides suck when you have to deal w/ someone else's hormone swings.


I'm not being the bitchy chick / guy basher at all - this is a constant issue when you make decisions about your own body that impact the people around you. But it is a call about the value of that relationship and how you manage that relationship. Its respect both for yourself & for the other person.
 
Sassy69 said:
I find it fascinating that you guys put a friggen controlled substance ahead of your wife.....

RE: women's PMS --- sure it sucks, but no we don't have a choice in the matter. You on AAS - you have a choice in the matter. The argument doesn't translate even tho both sides suck when you have to deal w/ someone else's hormone swings.


I'm not being the bitchy chick / guy basher at all - this is a constant issue when you make decisions about your own body that impact the people around you. But it is a call about the value of that relationship and how you manage that relationship. Its respect both for yourself & for the other person.
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BUMP
 
Sassy69 said:
I find it fascinating that you guys put a friggen controlled substance ahead of your wife.....

RE: women's PMS --- sure it sucks, but no we don't have a choice in the matter. You on AAS - you have a choice in the matter. The argument doesn't translate even tho both sides suck when you have to deal w/ someone else's hormone swings.


I'm not being the bitchy chick / guy basher at all - this is a constant issue when you make decisions about your own body that impact the people around you. But it is a call about the value of that relationship and how you manage that relationship. Its respect both for yourself & for the other person.
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I hope you dont think my comment was trying to bash you or women in general. I was just venting.
 
Sassy69 said:
I find it fascinating that you guys put a friggen controlled substance ahead of your wife.....

RE: women's PMS --- sure it sucks, but no we don't have a choice in the matter. You on AAS - you have a choice in the matter. The argument doesn't translate even tho both sides suck when you have to deal w/ someone else's hormone swings.


I'm not being the bitchy chick / guy basher at all - this is a constant issue when you make decisions about your own body that impact the people around you. But it is a call about the value of that relationship and how you manage that relationship. Its respect both for yourself & for the other person.
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Please....Normal woman bullshit. Listen, I bet this wife of his controlls everthing he does. You don't think its funny that he makes 75% of the income, yet she has say over 100% of the money. This has way more to do than just AAS. I never told the guy to choose the drugs over his wife, I said to stand up to her. One thing I have learned is that women come and go. The only thing in life that can truely make you happy is yourself. Not everyone is willing to live a life of compromise.
 
I just read the first post over and have to take back some of what I said. I totally missed the fact that the AS effected your mood and patience. If that was the case, I see your wife's argument. Look at it from her perspective. What if she was PMSing constantly for 2-3 months at a time, a few times a year?? And what if she could control these mood changes?? This is not to say you'll be happy go lucky 24/7 without AS, but I think you see where I'm going with this. What I was concerned about was that she was just telling you you couldn't do AS just because she said so. However, I can see where she's coming from. The other circumstances that would justify her actions would be if you guys were trying to have a baby and you were on gear.

However, I think there's still some underlying control issues here, not to mention her drinking habits you alluded to. Personally, if it were me and she showed signs of a drinking PROBLEM (that doesnt mean that she cant hold her liqour, I mean habitual drinking to the point that it was effecting her life, health, etc), I'd have to get a divorce, especially if there are no kids in the picture yet. Alcoholism is one ugly disease. It kills you slowly, in every aspect of your life and the lives of those around you. Bringing up a child in an alcoholic household should be a crime punishable by death.
 
Having been through this my best advice is to wait her out. Don't come at her with your tantrum. Tell her you've got something that will calm you down much more and it'll be different this time. If it's not you'll stop it right away. Then get some P Seven.
Just ease her mind and give her a couple days. You'll get your way.
 
medrep said:
Well I just posted in another thread how my wife is down, and after telling her about my spring cutter she put her foot down and said NO MORE! Apparently I was extremely moody on last cycle and had no patients LOL

Will that stop me, probably not, but she controlls our $$ and I need help from those in the know, on how to stash funds without her knowing. I've tried the obvious $40 ATM stash $30, etc. but thats too slow, i'm talking a few $500 hits

I need some ideas!
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perhaps you should consider a cutting regimen that does not make you as moody. siphoning money often leads to rather unpleasant fights, better to be upfront and also compromising.

there are plenty of cutting cycles that do not affect mood as much. Often slower methodologies, but still as effective. both diet and drug wise.
 
Inhibitor13 said:
I hope you dont think my comment was trying to bash you or women in general. I was just venting.
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Completely understand --- same w/ any situation where you have to live closely w/ someone else. Its one thing if there is just something naturally about the person that is part of them, but if its something that they CHOOSE to do, then its up for discussion. And that's where it is an integral part of the relationship that is either important enough to work out via communication or compromise or its more important than the relationship & you move on.
 
Why does she control the money? If you make 75% of the total income and she makes 25%, the total still comes out to 100%. I think you're pissed off over the fact that you make more so you should do what you want, no questions asked. It doesn't work that way in marriage and you know it. You should take a certain amount of money for yourself and give her the same amount and agree that this is the weekly spending for each of you and that's that. When you think about it, I'll bet you spend way more than she does. Protein, food, all your supps, gym membership, gear= That's alot of money. Start working on your agression man, you're not a fucking teenager anymore.
 
Skallagrimson said:
sort of same issue here. As far as aggression goes, I'm currently living by the principle that if I get angry, then no matter what, I'm going to assume it's the gear and that I'm wrong. It probably appears that I'm in a better mood when I'm on than when I'm off, which might actually be true since I tend to calm down once I walk away from my initial reactions.
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+1 Insightful. Lotsa peeps here who should listen to you.
 
medrep said:
Thats what sucks, I make 75% of the cash, meaning she works but makes far less

You guys are funny, we are happily married BTW, we just like to slam on each other, thats our relationship

I would set up a second account for my employer to deposit a % into each month, it would be fine for commission checks which are variable, but my base check she would notice if it was lower. Maybe I can just have them pull from the commission check, i'll see
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start another account under a fake investment company and say its for ur future.. jsut sucks when u got to get some out ur gonna have some explaining to do..
 
Sassy69 said:
I find it fascinating that you guys put a friggen controlled substance ahead of your wife.....

RE: women's PMS --- sure it sucks, but no we don't have a choice in the matter. You on AAS - you have a choice in the matter. The argument doesn't translate even tho both sides suck when you have to deal w/ someone else's hormone swings.


I'm not being the bitchy chick / guy basher at all - this is a constant issue when you make decisions about your own body that impact the people around you. But it is a call about the value of that relationship and how you manage that relationship. Its respect both for yourself & for the other person.
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My Psychology professor in college told us in class that PMS is just a mental thing, and a woman can be happy if she wants to be while going through her cycle, or if she wants to be pissy, then she will be pissy. it all depends on the woman's mindset :chomp: :chomp: :chomp:
 
If your mood and/or personality changes during cycle, is absolutely not fair for her and is her right to say no. Try to work on that first, and then take care of your own friggin money!! open a regular checking account for you and tell her that you'll transfer each week a certain amount for emergency backup; period, no questions asked. You work I guess the same 8 hours per day so put some balls on the table.
 
I couldn't live like that.....may be the reason I am almost 31, single, and no kids. I'd rather pay alimony and child support than live with a demanding partner that I have to lie to.

...that being said.....you need to work on the altered mood swings. Ya can't fault her for that.

BMJ
 
I always compared AAS to gettin breast implants. your doin somethin to your body to improve it, when done incorrectly, yes it could be bad, but with lots of research an experiance its totally safe. thats worked for me in the past.
 
great idea then i can pay her spousal support and alimony until my 3 year old is 18
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Wife’s are a lot like cars, at first you can’t live with out it, then it is just okay, then it costs a lot of money, then you see something you like a lot better and figure out out to drive that car.

Cars never stop loving you they just get old and become classic’s, so as you get older you don’t trade in your car you just keep it.

I have 9 beautiful old cars I will keep forever, hopefully 20 by the time I die.

I can not remember any criticizing, complaints or condemning from any of these cars.


I have 4 ex wife’s that cost over 150,000 a year and complaint daily, weekly,


Old cars get more beautiful as time pastes, old wives get surgery.
 
FRC21 said:
Please....Normal woman bullshit. Listen, I bet this wife of his controlls everthing he does. You don't think its funny that he makes 75% of the income, yet she has say over 100% of the money. This has way more to do than just AAS. I never told the guy to choose the drugs over his wife, I said to stand up to her. One thing I have learned is that women come and go. The only thing in life that can truely make you happy is yourself. Not everyone is willing to live a life of compromise.
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Thanks for the replys. When I say she "controls" our cash, it's because I gave her that power. I am in sales and call sell you anything, but I'm the worst fucking buyer and money manager on the planet! So she keeps me in check, which I allow, and we have a shitload in savings to prove it. That part I like. The part I don't like is when I want cash for a cutter and have to argue/explain/defend myself to get it. Yes I gave her that power so I guess I have to deal with the negatives as well.
 
My wife reaps the benefits of an insane libido, which keeps her a believer.

She's not complaining about the way I look in the t-shirts now that she bought me, either.

One bad PC crash and that could change, but for now, she see's it as a win-win.

Perhaps you should push that angle, I dunno.
 
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