Kick Boxing for self defense????

[KySmash]

I'd agree with that KCC. THe thai kick is one of my 3 favorite kicks. Muaythai also has a lot to offer for Self defense with it's clinch work( which is known as "getting dressed" in thai).

I do muaythai nad box and the boxing has helped out tons. If you cannot do muaythai, boxinf and kickboxing are not bad

 

[gegl]

train in any martial art that teaches striking with hands arms legs knees etc.

this will enable you to strike with out thinking because when the time comes you will be too worried about the sweating the heart pumping the head ache the shaking and the fact you now need clean under wear.

what ever you do pressure test it, get some one to rush at you screaming they are going to kick you F'in head in and see if you can pull off your favourite kick or punch ..... Not much works in the real world.

Instant assesment of the situation is important, do you kill before being killed or is it a drunk idiot that can be controlled with an arm lock.

You have to practice being quick desisive and first. 5 seconds thinking could mean your on the floor and its all over. 10 seconds with someone grabbing your throat and your dead.

I train with www.rsda.org.uk its real, it works and it works with or with out martial arts training

 

[MUSCLETECHSUX]

I kick in a fight. And I am very glad there are still guys out there like you who don't expect that. THERE IS NOTHING QUITE LIKE THE SURPRISE ON SOMEONE'S FACE ONCE THEY EXPERIENCE THE PAIN OF A MUAY THAI ROUNDHOUSE KICK TO THEIR THIGH. I get chills just thinking about it.

kicks are way too predictable, if you are using periferal vison then you can see them coming a mile away, especially at close range, if you try and kick a huge tank mofo that knows how to grapple he's gonna just grab your leg and snap it

 

[Kwai-Chang Caine]

MUSCLETECHSUX,

No offense bro, but you don't know what you are talking about. Kicks to the legs and body are extremely effective in both sport and street fighting. Furthermore, kicks aren't predictable. Most people don't expect them and in the case of kicks to the body and especially to the legs, most people won't see them coming. Leg kicks will work against anyone. The best grapplers in the world don't stop them on a regular basis so it's not likely that Joe Bluebelt or Barry Barfighter are going to fair any better.

If you don't believe me I suggest you go visit a Muay Thai, Shootfighting, or Mixed Martial Arts school sometime and tell them how you feel about kicks. I'm sure you would find your lesson to be quite a humbling experience.

 

[MUSCLETECHSUX]

MUSCLETECHSUX,

No offense bro, but you don't know what you are talking about. Kicks to the legs and body are extremely effective in both sport and street fighting. Furthermore, kicks aren't predictable. Most people don't expect them and in the case of kicks to the body and especially to the legs, most people won't see them coming. Leg kicks will work against anyone. The best grapplers in the world don't stop them on a regular basis so it's not likely that Joe Bluebelt or Barry Barfighter are going to fair any better.

If you don't believe me I suggest you go visit a Muay Thai, Shootfighting, or Mixed Martial Arts school sometime and tell them how you feel about kicks. I'm sure you would find your lesson to be quite a humbling experience.

It really depends on who you're up against, if it's some fat untrained barfly then sure maybe he'd be stupid enough to get hit with a kick and not see it coming but someone like me who has been training in kung fu, wrestling and kickboxing for over 5 years would be another story, when you walk into a fight you don't just 'guess' what your oppenent is going to do, you wouldn't just stand there staring at his face and hope that he throws a punch, you learn 'periferal vision' and and how peoples body mechanism works thus enabling you to read your opponent like a book by watching every part of his body at once. At school once this kid knew tae kwon do and thought he was top shit cuz he could do all these high fancy kicks, he tried a roundhouse kick to the midsection and i simply raised my leg and his shin hit my knee...fight over, if it was a higher kick i would of just stepped out of the way, caught it and snapped his leg. Don't tell me that i don't know what i'm talking about because when i fight i don't plan on standing there trading blows with someone and having a slugfest i plan on walking into the fight to win and if you get kicked simply because you don't see it coming then i would have to question your skill

 

[Kwai-Chang Caine]

MUSCLETECHSUX,

I have cross trained in all of those styles which you have listed and not a single one of them has a wide assortment of realistic submissions. I don't see how you figure your just going to break someones leg because you grabbed it. That's like all of those gay ass Din Mak guys walking around telling people how they can kill you if they touch you. You may be good, but you aren't immune to kicks and you surely aren't better than any UFC or Pride competitor. Those guys are world class fighters and they take kicks from time to time, especially leg kicks. The example you gave regarding the Tae Kwon Do guy you tooled is off base because he is a Tae Kwon Do practicioner for God sakes. If that had been a Thai practicioner or a mixed martial artists with conditioned shins and an iron will I doubt you would have faired so well. Furthermore, with a kickboxing background I find it very surprising that you underestimate the power of a thai roundhouse kick.

 

[MUSCLETECHSUX]

Its not about how easily i coulda snapped his leg or how tough i am its about seeing the kick coming in the first place, i can kick as well, and i can do the splits, and backflips and all that fancy shit that martial arts movie buffs reckon looks cool but the fact is that kicks only work most of the time as finishing moves once you opponent is beaten up pretty bad already. Low kicks are dead easy to block, grab or counter kick against , high kicks you can see a mile away if you know what you're doing. Do you honestly think you're gonna get a nice clean gut or leg kick in 100% of the time without being grabbed and thrown to the grown or leg sweeped? I'm not saying kicks suck I'm just saying you gotta know when and how to use them and don't really on your opponent being an idiot and 'not expecting it'.

 

[Kwai-Chang Caine]

Dude, if you are bending down trying to grab low leg kicks you're going to end up like Mark Coleman in UFC 17. He took what I like to call the Pete Williams Asics shoelace taste test.

I still find it very interesting that you play off leg kicks as if they are something easy to block, grab, etc. The best full contact fighters in the world can't even pull that off easily. Are you meaning to tell me that your skills exceed those of a Sakuraba, Gracie, Silva, or Ortiz? Besides, If leg kicks were so damn easy to neutralize they wouldn't be used OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I seriously suggest that you spar with some solid fighters. But then again it may not be a problem for you since you are the world's greatest kick defender right?

 

[Kwai-Chang Caine]

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[MUSCLETECHSUX]

Kwai-chang kain
I think you need to read my posts properly before you reply, I never claimed to be the worlds greatest fighter nor did i say that kicks dont work, I simply said that kicks leave you too open and when you throw a kick its a matter of luck, you're on one leg and the other person can easily kick you as well. I kick, but I do it right, i pick the right time and i look for a window or opening my opponents guard. If you throw a kick, it might hit him, but what if he's quicker and kicks you in the balls as a desperation move while your legs in the air. I never risk openings like that until i know that I can land the strike without any problems. The fact is it's not hard to grab someone's leg when they kick, even if it means getting kicked in the stomach, the will do whatever they can because they want your head on a platter, all it takes is a quick grab of your ankle and your off balance. Walk into a fight with a Wing Chun Practitioner and then try see how easy it is to get a clean kick in.