Just when things look like they are going to be good....

[Cobin]

I haven't had time do much training at all lately, and I've been eating really shitty so I gained some fat, and I feel so fucking small and I am sure I lost some LBM. Well now I have time to bulk so I was setting that all up by cutting away the fat I gained so I don't look really fat after my bulk, and I got sick. Damnit this sucks so bad, it will probably set me back another 2 weeks now before my bulk.


What do you guys think? After I am healed I will prob cut another 2 wks and lift a normal routine in the gym to get back my strength and then bulk. I hope muscle memory really works because I think I lost atleast 5-10lb LBM and my strength is down alot. I feel like shit and being shit is not helping. Life is throwing me many curves. Thanks for your thoughts on the matter.

 

[Cobin]

Also while I'm at it, the supps I am going to be bulking with are as follows:


ALA
Creatine
B-complex multi
multi vitamin
Dextrose or Glucose whatever I find first
Flax or some fish oils still deciding

And I will be doing DC's low volume deep stretching routine. I've heard nothing but good things about it and I can't wait to give it a shot. I am looking forward to getting back into the gym.

 

[jeremys]

if you cut you might lose what strength/size you do have..musce memory is great..after 2-3 weeks of training, i can tell i'm on my way to getting back to where i was

 

[Cobin]

I already lost alot of strength and alittle size, and gained 5 or so pds of fat, not enough it show on the outside but enough to make me feel bigger in the stomach, and I am short so I have less places to put it,meaning I look fatter then someone thats 6ft at 12 then I look at 12.

 

[jeremys]

if you bulk, you will gain a little fat

 

[skaman607]

Hey Cobin, haven't seen you in awhile, I think you should bulk, so you have some LBM to show when you cut, at least that's what I think, and maybe you should throw in some sprints too, just ask jeremys, they're great

 

[jeremys]

yeah, if you're worried about fat gain while bulking, throw in sprints 1-2 times a week

 

[Cobin]

Not worried about it at all, I expect it. I know you can't bulk without gaining fat, its just the fat i will gain off bulking plus what i have added due to a shitty diet will make me look pudgy. : ) Not that I really mind because I am in it for the muscle. The fat will come off later. Maybe I am over analyzing this. I don't want to delay my bulk forever. I just figured if I cut first I could bulk longer say 3 months instead of 2, and try and gain more LBM. I am shooting for 20lbs over all hopefully 10LBM and 10 fat, if I got more LBM tho I will happy.

 

[jeremys]

you will look/feel less fat as soon as lean mass comes back

 

[Cobin]

you will look/feel less fat as soon as lean mass comes back

Thanks man, so Should I do a one week come back once I am no longer sick and then bulk?

 

[jeremys]

a one week comeback?

i'd definately bulk. but just wait to do whatever you do after you're done being sick

 

[Cobin]

Hey Cobin, haven't seen you in awhile, I think you should bulk, so you have some LBM to show when you cut, at least that's what I think, and maybe you should throw in some sprints too, just ask jeremys, they're great

Hey Skaman, how ya been?

 

[Cobin]

a one week comeback?

i'd definately bulk. but just wait to do whatever you do after you're done being sick

Thanks, I will see how long this cold last first and then see how it goes.

 

[DrBones]

Muscle Memory is an amazing thing... I hadn't barbell bench pressed in over 2 years because of an injury...
Within 3 weeks I was smashin PR's.....
How do you like them apples

 

[Cobin]

Muscle Memory is an amazing thing... I hadn't barbell bench pressed in over 2 years because of an injury...
Within 3 weeks I was smashin PR's.....
How do you like them apples

I like them alot, How much did you gain on your bulking cycle bones? I am looking to get atleast 20 lbs, all together with the fat. That would put me at 170 and then hope to cut to 160 and bulk again. I wanna be 180 in 6 months time, think this unrealistic?

 

[skaman607]

Hey Skaman, how ya been?

I've been alright thanks, why don't you try to do HST? is would give you some LBM faster, I guess, so you could cut sooner, I'm not too sure about this, just throwing up ideas

 

[DrBones]

Cobin,
I gained 22 lbs when I bulked... went from 178 and pretty cut to 200 and kinda chunky (maybe a few lbs over.. but not very much)
I know for a fact I could have done a WAY better job on my bulk though, I could have done it a lot cleaner... I bulked for just under 3 months.
I've been cutting now for a month, and I'm sitting around 192... I figure I'll be around 185 when I'm at the same BF % that I had at 178. So a good 7 lbs of LBM added to my frame. When I bulk up and add fat... I look like shit.... at 5'10 I look like a fridge or something @ 200 lbs...

I wouldn't stress over it too much man...
It will come back fast... probably REALLY fast... and before you know it you will be slamming PR's through the floor left right and center.

 

[Cobin]

I've been alright thanks, why don't you try to do HST? is would give you some LBM faster, I guess, so you could cut sooner, I'm not too sure about this, just throwing up ideas

I am doing DC's routine which is like HST but more stretching and instead of straight sets you do rest pause with a 6 second negative.

 

[Cobin]

Cobin,
I gained 22 lbs when I bulked... went from 178 and pretty cut to 200 and kinda chunky (maybe a few lbs over.. but not very much)
I know for a fact I could have done a WAY better job on my bulk though, I could have done it a lot cleaner... I bulked for just under 3 months.
I've been cutting now for a month, and I'm sitting around 192... I figure I'll be around 185 when I'm at the same BF % that I had at 178. So a good 7 lbs of LBM added to my frame. When I bulk up and add fat... I look like shit.... at 5'10 I look like a fridge or something @ 200 lbs...

I wouldn't stress over it too much man...
It will come back fast... probably REALLY fast... and before you know it you will be slamming PR's through the floor left right and center.

Thanks for your help, I hope to get atleast 10lbm on this bulk cycle and then try and get more next one.

 

[jeremys]

when i first started bulking, i gained 30-some pounds in a couple months. now a bit was fat bot a lot was LBM. i was very suprised. now that i think about it, i MIGHT have been getting close to 1 g protein per lb of bodyweight, etc. but nothing was stressed too much and i only had like a cookie every now and then

 

[Cobin]

Cool, well I am gonna be taking in 400 grams of protein and about 3000-4000 calories aday with some creatine postworkout and lots of vitamins and minerals, plently of ALA.

 

[jeremys]

i wish i had enough money to keep a diet like that...

btw, elite is slower than i would be running a marathon

 

[Cobin]

i wish i had enough money to keep a diet like that...

btw, elite is slower than i would be running a marathon

I couldn't do it on my own, my parents help alot, so I don't try and waste their money with crap I don't need. Just the cheapest I can find.

Yes its very slow tonight, dunno why.

 

[DrBones]

Hey Cobin,
I got some pics from the end of my bulking cycle developed today.. I'll make sure I get them scanned in the next few days, I'll post em in my cutting thread (which i need to update)
I learned 2 things from these pictures...
1.My pecs sure need some more developement
2.Posing makes your face look funny
Make sure you take a few before and afters... I wish i took some befores.. thats for damn sure..
How old are you again by the way?
if your still growing 10 lbs LBM should be pretty easy if you eat like you've quoted above....

 

[Cobin]

Hey Cobin,
I got some pics from the end of my bulking cycle developed today.. I'll make sure I get them scanned in the next few days, I'll post em in my cutting thread (which i need to update)
I learned 2 things from these pictures...
1.My pecs sure need some more developement
2.Posing makes your face look funny
Make sure you take a few before and afters... I wish i took some befores.. thats for damn sure..
How old are you again by the way?
if your still growing 10 lbs LBM should be pretty easy if you eat like you've quoted above....

Can't wait to see them, I do plan on taking some before and afters once I get over this cold, I posted some pics in the training board before do a search. I am 15, about 150 at 5'5. I lost some LBM and added some fat so I just want to get back to where I was and then gain some more LBM, atleast 20lbs over the next 3-4 months is my goal.