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just started my accutane, any advice?

BiG n Natural

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doing 20mgs daily right now, will see how it goes n take it from there.

i got chap stick, 1 by my bed, 1 in my car and 1 in my book bag, any other advice/ what to expect from people that have used?
 
Ive been on 40 mgs a day and my acne has cleared up alot. I have had zero sides as of yet. No chapped lips or dry skin at all.
 
BiG n Natural said:
doing 20mgs daily right now, will see how it goes n take it from there.

i got chap stick, 1 by my bed, 1 in my car and 1 in my book bag, any other advice/ what to expect from people that have used?
the sides to me are very bearable,chapped and dryness any day for me over a pizza face.i see some guys bitch about sides but there are sides to everything and in this case the benefits far outwiegh any side,unless u get suicidal feelings which ive heard are a side but never heard of anyone getting them.my main advice would be to drink tons of h2o.and if you up the dosage just watch heavy lifting it dries out everything including your joints.sorta like what winny does.i hurt my back deadlifting on acc because of this.if u need any more info hit me up.
 
Accutane is nasty nasty nasty nasty nasty nasty stuff. I can understand why she said not to use anything, its better to be say thats fo sho! I'd still use whey and thats it!

Heres a rundown of the sides on accutane:

Body:
allergies
vasculitis
systemic hypersensitivity
edema
fatigue
lympadenopathy

Cardiovascular:
palpitation
tachycardia
vascular thrombotic disease
stroke

Endocrine/Metabolic:
hypertriglyceridemia (increases triglycerides)
altered blood sugar levels

Gastrointestinal:
inflammatory bowel disease
hepatitis (yep, you cna develop a nonviral/nonbacterial form of hepatitis from it)
pancreatitis
bleeding and inflammation of gums
colitis
esophagitis/esophageal ulceration
ileitis
nausea

Hematologic:
anemia
thrombocytopenia
neutropenia

Musculoskeletal:
skeletal hyperstosis
calcification of tendons and ligaments
decreased bone mineral density
back pain
myalgia
arthralgia
transient chest pain
arthritis
tendonitis
other bone abnormalities

Neurological:
pseudotumor cerebri
dizziness
drowsiness
headache
insomnia
lethargy
malaise
nervousness
paresthesias
seizures
syncope
weakness

Psychiatric:
suicidal ideation
suicide attempts
suicide
depression
psychosis
aggression
violent behaviors
emotional instability

Respiratory:
bronchospasma

Skin and Appendages:
acne fulminans
alopecia
bruising
cheilitis (dry lips)
dry mouth
dry nose
dry skin
epistaxis
eruptive xanthomas
flushing
fragiolity of skin (your skin tears very easily)
hair abnormalities
hirsutism
hyperpigmentation and hypopigmentation (more commonly hypo; you can become almost like an albino while on it)
susceptibility to infections
nail dystrophy
paronychia
peeling of palms and soles
photoallergic/photosensitizing reactions
pruritus
pyogenic granuloma
rash
sunburn susceptibility increased (VASTLY)
sweating
urticaria
abnormal wound healing (delayed healing, crusting of wounds, excessive scarring)

Hearing:
hearing impairment

Vision:
corneal opacities
decreased night vision which may become permanent
cataracts
color vision disorder
conjunctivitis (makes you more susceptible to it)
dry eyes
eylid inflammation
keratitis
optic neuritis
photophobia
visual disturbance

Urinary:
glomerulonephritis
nonspecific urogenital findings (EEK!)

Lab test findings:
Elevated triglycerides
decrease in HDL cholesterol
increase in LDL cholesterol
Increased AST, ALT, GGTP, and LDH (messes with your liver BIGTIME)
increased blood sugar
decreased red blood cell count
decreased white blood cell count
increased platelet count
white blood cells in urine
 
usually takes me about 3months and im completely clear
drink lots of water (which you should be doing anyway)
sunscreen whenever your in the sun
moisturiser helps to
dont touch you lips when they dry out!!
 
You can also expect a temporary increase in acne for a week or two. I was on it '99 and to this day I can't go anywhere without chapstick.
 
Accutane is hardcore shit, just watch out for side effects. I just switched to the Clear Skin Regimen (google it.). Something about Accutanes possible side effects really freak me out...
 
in my opinion, the sides of accutane are wayyyyy overrated... i just finished up 6 months at 80mg a day and i didnt have one problem other than my skin was a bit dry.. didnt even chap my lips too bad.. works wonders tho, i could not get rid of my post tren acne until i used accutane. i also ran a 10 weeker of test during my accutane treatment and had no problems either.
 
hankes have you even used accutane? accutane is amazing stuff...hella dry skin is all i got...i felt like a snake...all scaly....easy fix with a moisturizer tho
 
newbiebynature said:
hankes have you even used accutane? accutane is amazing stuff...hella dry skin is all i got...i felt like a snake...all scaly....easy fix with a moisturizer tho

Nope, never had the displeasure of it. My skin has always been clear
 
Here is a good read.

It was posted by Riker on a couple of boards, as well as here in the past I believe. I C&P'd this from AF.

I hear a lot being said about Accutane on this board and I think there is a lot of misconceptions about it. So, since I have personal experience with it, I will provide some insight.

Accutane is not some mild remedy for acne. This is not something where you will see Jennifer Love Hewitt bouncing her rack around in a TV ad touting it. It can be some serious shit.

I am not a Doc, so if the terms are not 100% correct, no big deal.

I had a mild to moderate acne problem when I was younger. After years of washes, tetracycline, and other BS, I finally heard about Accutane. My Doc was not agreeable with this as a course of treatment, since it is usually used for only extreme cases. Finally, I told him that I WAS going to do it, with or without his help. I told him flat-out that I would even find my own dermatologist, and pay for it out of my own pocket if he (MY Doc) would not approve it for insurance. Finally, he knuckled under and agreed.

I was referred to a Derma(tologist) and we started.

Accutane is basically a synthetic form, of something very similar, to Vitamin A. It is very powerful.

There is a long list of possible side effects. For women, it is especially risky - if she gets pregnant while on it, the possible birth defects are scary (very). They will NOT provide Accutane to women unless she get’s a pregnancy test first, and agrees to be on 2 forms of contraceptives during the administration of Accutane.

But I am not a chick, so this was not an issue.

One of the possible side effects is a raising of your cholesterol. So, typically, a full Chol(lesterol) test is done prior to giving you Accutane as a baseline.

The dose of Accutane given varies depending upon your size, and the severity of your acne. Typically it is taken for about 4-5 months in one stretch. If you stop early, you will have some benefit, but it will be less. Why would you stop early? Most docs WILL require that your Chol levels be checked, and depending on the Doc, they may stop the use of it. That happened to me (more details later).

The way it works is, you take Accutane for your 4-5 months, then you are done. Then, your acne problems are WAY less. Now, its not the holy grail, it's not prefect. In fact, what is interesting is that it tends to be MOST effective on very very serve cases of acne (the cystic type). Milder acne cases tend to have less benefit, but there will be some.

The benefits do last a long long time, but are not forever. I noticed that after a few years, my acne did come back a bit, but much less than it was.

Before you start, there are several things they warn you about:

You cholesterol may go up. WAY up.

You will be very very sensitive to the sun.

Your skin will get dry. Very.

You will HAVE to drink a LOT of water.

Your acne will get worse (temporarily) before it gets better.

You must NOT take Vitamin A supplements while on it. This will act synergistically with the Accutane - and your sides will get worse.

With that all understood, I started.

No big deal for a week. Then, your skin starts getting dry, and your acne gets worse.

Now my worsening was not ALL that bad. I washed a lot, and was careful, so it got mildly worse. But still, it WILL get worse for a while. But that was not a bog deal with me.

OK, this is where it gets bad. My skin got dry. Very.

Ok, now I know that these AS sites have all of us Test-laden MoFo's and we are used to some amount of pain. So, most guys, when hearing about something like dry skin, just go "oh .. whatever, no big deal".

TRUST ME.

THIS IS NO PICNIC.

Dry. Like you will not believe. A faint white sheen from dry flakiness in certain areas.

Your lips so dry, that they crack. Crack. And bleed.

Imagine opening your mouth enough to eat a big burger and your lips crack and bleed. Ouch.

Now, I had heard about this prior, and was (probably like most guys reading this) going "yeah right - no big deal", so I was not drinking as much water, and not using a moisturizer that much. And after about a week into it, I figured "this ain’t too bad". Plus, since you acne gets worse for a while, that LAST thing you think of is potting moisturizer on your skin.

So, I was cruising along, acne got a bit worse, then within a few days, the dryness kicks in. THEN YOU START DRINKING WATER. LOL (duh).

I quickly learned the ropes about this...

Drink a TON of water. Then drink more. It helps.

Have a moisturizer with you ALL THE TIME. I went and got like a small purse-size one that chick’s use, and had it in my pocket ALL THE TIME. I had to apply it like 4 times during a work day to prevent getting this like "white" look on the surface of my skin, due to the layer of dry skin at the surface.

Have a lip balm with you ALL THE TIME. ALL FREEGIN DAY. Chap stick (regular) sucks. Its like wax and basically forms a layer to KEEP existing moisture IN. That won’t help. You need either Chap Stick Medicated (its almost like Vaseline) or Blistex. Blistex, is in a small tube, and its like a white cream - is THE best. I had tubes everywhere. In the car, at home, in my desk, in my pocket, in my jacket, You will need it.

Trust me.

So, my skin got dry, I learned how to manage it.

I went along for about 2.5 months, almost 3. Then my Chol tests came back (I had to get one like every 3-4 weeks, most Docs will insist upon this while on). My test showed that my Chol went WAY up.

Now this is what sucked for me. My Derma was this old dude who panicked, and made me STOP the Accutane. That sucked. I was young, healthy, etc., and frankly a temporary rise in Chol is not a big deal, but he stopped it. Damn.

So, that was cycle 1. It helped.

But, after like 18-24 months, my acne sorta came back. Damn.

So I went to my regular Doc, and told him I wanted to go for it again, He agreed.

So, we got a new set of Chol tests, and started.

I was smart this time.

To minimize the temporary worsening, I was sure to wash very well, and use some good topicals when I started. That helped. The "worsening" was minimal.

I started drinking TON of water from day 1. That helped a lot.

Sure enough, the dry skin started, albeit much less than before. I was prepared. At about say 7-10 I started to moisturize, preemptively. That helped.

I was armed with Blistex everywhere. I knew the drill. Blistex and a pocket-sized thing of moisturizer. Worked like a charm.

We watched my Chol levels. I was smart this time. I started working out then to keep the Chol levels down. I ate very well. I took Metamucil to keep my system moving. Lots of bran too. It all helped. My Chol went up, but not too much. We knew that it would drop after the Accutane was halted.

So, I finished that course about 6 years ago.

Since then my acne has been much much less than it ever was. In the past year or 2, it has come back a tiny bit, but its manageable.

So, there it is. Accutane.

It is good, but it is a bit harsh. I know it has other possible effects (on organs, maybe liver, kidneys, I dunno) but for me that was not a problem.

Trust me, learn from my advice. Don’t be a Test-laden bull-headed dumbass and blow off what I sad about the dry skin and lips. This will be the WORSE you have EVER experienced that in your life. But, if you drink a TON of water, moisturize, and get some good lip-stuff, you can deal with it.


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OK - some new notes.


Not everyone gets skin quite that dry. True. However I think part of the reason for this is the mis-information of many out people out there, where they use far too little of a dose (like 20mg/day). I cant recall what I did - but it was more than that for sure.


Plus - BB'rs tend tp be used to drinking massivbe amounts of water - that helps a lot.


If using it while ON, I would suggest that its all the more imprtant to have your Cholesterol checked during the AS and Acc. cycles, and maybe even have your liver functions checked as well (especially if doing some of the oral AS's which tend to be a bit stressful on the liver).

If you live in a warm area, and/or if you plan on tanning, getting some sun, etc. - forget doing Accutane at the same time. You get very sensitive to the sun. Very. Add that fact to the skin-drying effect - and getting even the slightest sunburn (or even enough to normally color you a bit) will NOT be fun. Yes, you CAN go outside and be IN the sun, but you will need like SPF 2000 to keep it tolerable.

Again, some of the things such as symptoms, side effects, etc. are experinced to various degrees by different people, but everyone considering Accutane should at least be aware that they have a good chance of having such things happen to them.
 
im doing 20mgs daily right now, not running any orals just injectables while im on. its been 3 days and i already feel fucked up in my head w/ depression, i got some shit goin on so it could just be that. im 5'10" 220 i think im gona work up to 40mgs and see how that goes, dont wana get over 40. and i think im going to run it for 2 months if sides get bad then start again at the end of summer during pct. otherwise if everything is good and sides are minimal ill run straight through my cycle.

my cholesterol is already probably high being on cycle and on a.i.'s could the high cholesterol levels do serious harm to my body even if there only raised for the next 4 months?
 
newbiebynature said:
thanks for giving your input on something youve NEVER used before...

Don't need to use to know the sides, my brother has used and that was a few years of hell for him.
 
i hope you never take ibuoprofen again...the list of side effects is just as long as the accutane one...and you know what...just cuz he had a shitty ass time on it doesnt mean everyone is going to have the same reaction
 
newbiebynature said:
i hope you never take ibuoprofen again...the list of side effects is just as long as the accutane one...and you know what...just cuz he had a shitty ass time on it doesnt mean everyone is going to have the same reaction

What the fuck is the matter with you? I gave a list of sides and mentioned its nothing to just jump into, thats all I said.

Oh and I'm sure you give advice on AAS all the time even the ones you have NEVER used.
 
a bomb said:
Ive been on 40 mgs a day and my acne has cleared up alot. I have had zero sides as of yet. No chapped lips or dry skin at all.


Any side effects like reduced libido while on Accutane?
 
hankes64 said:
What the fuck is the matter with you? I gave a list of sides and mentioned its nothing to just jump into, thats all I said.

Oh and I'm sure you give advice on AAS all the time even the ones you have NEVER used.


Agreed, accutane isn't something to jump into without serious consideration.
Lmfao at comparing it to ibuoprofen, wrong fucking ballpark bro.
 
shut the fuck up retard...i wasnt comparing the two...i was saying that everything is gonig to have a long list of side effects...but do you get them all? and he shouldnt be fucking talking and maybe you shouldnt either (if you havent used accutane) seems like the only dumb fucks who hate accutane is the ones who havent used it....thats all i have for you faggots...peace
 
newbiebynature said:
shut the fuck up retard...i wasnt comparing the two...i was saying that everything is gonig to have a long list of side effects...but do you get them all? and he shouldnt be fucking talking and maybe you shouldnt either (if you havent used accutane) seems like the only dumb fucks who hate accutane is the ones who havent used it....thats all i have for you faggots...peace

You're an idiot. I don't think you should be in the AAS forum posting, you should be reading.
 
hankes64 said:
You're an idiot. I don't think you should be in the AAS forum posting, you should be reading.
good one dumbass...and i only give my opinion when i have used something and experienced it first hand...i dont bash something before using it...
 
newbiebynature said:
good one dumbass...and i only give my opinion when i have used something and experienced it first hand...i dont bash something before using it...

Show me where I bashed him. I gave him a warning, its not just something you should use, Ithought Ive eplained this easily enough that even you would get it.
 
accutane is the shit! only thing that will really work...for cystic acne only thing will work imo....

the intial breakout sucks
(accutane will cause ur face to get worse then better)
face will be red when you lift and just a general red/pink shade
get cortisone injections into cysts when you see your derm once a month..just him about them..they rule
 
i didnt say bash someone i said bash something...YOU'VE NEVER EVEN USED FUCKIN ACCUTANE BEFORE YET YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT IT....FUCK IM TALKING TO A RETARD! im done here go get some C&C followers to red me or something...even better...get them to post in here
 
newbiebynature said:
i didnt say bash someone i said bash something...YOU'VE NEVER EVEN USED FUCKIN ACCUTANE BEFORE YET YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT IT....FUCK IM TALKING TO A RETARD! im done here go get some C&C followers to red me or something...even better...get them to post in here

Pdaddy is an AAS guy tard. Again show me where I bashed it, I gave a warning that if he was going to use. You know again I'm sure you comment on a lot of drugs you have never used before, so shut it hypocrit
 
hankes64 said:
Pdaddy is an AAS guy tard. Again show me where I bashed it, I gave a warning that if he was going to use. You know again I'm sure you comment on a lot of drugs you have never used before, so shut it hypocrit
please show me a fuckin post where ive ever even used something besides accutane...i NEVER give my input around here so shut the fuck up..."accutane is very nasty nasty nasty nasty etc. stuff" HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW?!
 
newbiebynature said:
please show me a fuckin post where ive ever even used something besides accutane...i NEVER give my input around here so shut the fuck up..."accutane is very nasty nasty nasty nasty etc. stuff" HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW?!

Dude look at the list of KNOWN sides and my brother used, again it was a few years of pure hell for him while on it, so kiss my ass.
 
hankes64 said:
Dude look at the list of KNOWN sides and my brother used, again it was a few years of pure hell for him while on it, so kiss my ass.
im so fucking sorry your brother got the "whole" list of side effects you mentioned....but im sure your brother also had a fucking pizza face before he took the shit...and im pretty sure his dermatologist made him sign something before hand...so he fully knew what he was getting himself into...and like I said...not everyone gets side effects besides dryness...less than 1% get depression from accutane...but since i know youll fight it lets call it 5%...and is it worth 5% of a risk to take...YES
 
newbiebynature said:
im so fucking sorry your brother got the "whole" list of side effects you mentioned....but im sure your brother also had a fucking pizza face before he took the shit...and im pretty sure his dermatologist made him sign something before hand...so he fully knew what he was getting himself into...and like I said...not everyone gets side effects besides dryness...less than 1% get depression from accutane...but since i know youll fight it lets call it 5%...and is it worth 5% of a risk to take...YES

he didnt get the whole list, jesus christ. all i fucking said was becareful, that it is nasty shit and gave POSSIBLE sides and you started shit, now its better that everyone now knows what teh POSSIBLE sides are. Theres also a lot more to than just depression. AGAIN IT WAS A WARNING TO EDUCATE NOT TO FLAME OR BASH ANYTHING SO STOP BEING A PRICK AND GET OFF MY ASS.
 
talk to me when you get horrible acne and every over the counter and even most prescription wont help you...then tell me you wont use accutane...theres no winning with you so lets end it...its basically like talk to a wall...a dumb fuckin wall if there was one
 
newbiebynature said:
talk to me when you get horrible acne and every over the counter and even most prescription wont help you...then tell me you wont use accutane...theres no winning with you so lets end it...its basically like talk to a wall...a dumb fuckin wall if there was one

It was a fucking warning dick, I never said dont use it, I said its dangerous so be careful, do you not understand your own langauge?
 
if you want to get technical also that was a repost from an original message that I posted on the MF boards asking if he should still use his laundry list of supplements with it, hence me saying just use the whey.
 
thanks for hi-jacking my thread turning it to a pissy-fit, both of u shutup if u have nothing about the question at hand. u both made valid points and good posts before ur outburst... end it

before my thread turned to shit i asked this ... my cholesterol is already probably high being on cycle and on a.i.'s will the accutane raise my cholesterol further? and could could the high cholesterol levels do serious harm to my body even if there only raised for the next 4 months?
 
dry flaky skin especially the lips, i was on it in 2001 and my lips and skin still get flaked out. plus i was depressed as fuck when i was on it. Got cysts on my dick and my armpit and ear. had to get them cut out.

try using the sunbed wash with water only and go swimming once a week.
 
wow this thread really got interesting, LOL. I have been on 40mg of accutane for almost 2 months now, and am 2 weeks into a pretty heavy cycle, all injectables no orals, and so far my results have been awesome. My acne never got worse before getting better, it improved immediately and the only side i have gotten is slightly dry lips and my vision is a little blurry at times. Even for those that have mild acne that doesnt respond to all the BS OTC remedies, a low dose of this stuff will clear your ass right up. I havent had a new zit appear on my face since the first week of treatment, and ive had one or two on my face for 98% of my life since I was 15, Im almost 26 now and still got them almost everyday up until now. For those of you skeptical about taking it, I think the side effects are highly overrated at a dose of around 40mg/day. The horror stories you have heard are from people taking double that dosage.
 
KingQuadz said:
wow this thread really got interesting, LOL. I have been on 40mg of accutane for almost 2 months now, and am 2 weeks into a pretty heavy cycle, all injectables no orals, and so far my results have been awesome. My acne never got worse before getting better, it improved immediately and the only side i have gotten is slightly dry lips and my vision is a little blurry at times. Even for those that have mild acne that doesnt respond to all the BS OTC remedies, a low dose of this stuff will clear your ass right up. I havent had a new zit appear on my face since the first week of treatment, and ive had one or two on my face for 98% of my life since I was 15, Im almost 26 now and still got them almost everyday up until now. For those of you skeptical about taking it, I think the side effects are highly overrated at a dose of around 40mg/day. The horror stories you have heard are from people taking double that dosage.
i have no horror story and i was on 80mg a day for 5 months
 
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