Just Dbol and Clomid

[castar]

Whats up Bro's,

I finally got a reliable source and purchased some Dbol(pink tabs) and some Clomid to begin my first cycle.

I did some research and one of the post's I came across of was Kronk's Newbie help post

can be found here

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...=20&highlight=dianabol and cycle&pagenumber=1

After doing some more research I think this would be an ok cycle but I have some questions.


Week
1 3 tabs - 15 mg ---

2 3 tabs - 15 mg ---

3 4 tabs - 20 mg ---

4 5 tabs - 25 mg ---

5 6 tabs - 30 mg ---

6 6 tabs - 30 mg ---

7 5 tabs - 25 mg ---

8 4 tabs - 20 mg ---

9 3 tabs - 15 mg ---

10 3 tabs - 15 mg ---

11 100mg Clomid

12 50mg Clomid


Question #1 Are my Dbol intakes high enough ? I see other posts where some are taking 30mg a day for 4 weeks + stacking w/sus250 ect.


Question #2 Will I need Nolva for this cycle or will the Clomid we enough ?

 

[finabomber]

nolva and clomid is always necessary to have on hand....nolva in case u are prone to gyno(precaution)...clomid to bring the boys up to par when ur done....i see guys crash all the time when coming off their cycles due to the fact they don't have clomid...a juicer's best friend.......good luck!!
Finabomber

 

[bigdelt69]

12 weeks is a long time to stay on dboll, i would try to add some test, or deca in there. your liver is not going to live 12 weeks of dboll.

 

[supertech69]

Pick a dose & stay with it untill you are ready to come off. maybe taper down the last 2-3 weeks then start clomid. I recommend doing a min of 25mgED from the very first day. If you run at 25mgED this will allow you to take 1 every 4 hrs to maintain levels durring the day, instead of an up & down spike. If you go above the 25mg, you can either take the extra before a workout for a pump, take it before bed to bump up the levels or both. I take 40mgED so I do both. Also, do a search on bridging with d-bol, oyu should find a recent post on it, very good read.

 

[mrt]

D-bol is not a good beginners drug. If it's gonna be your first cycle try to choose something else to start with. A mild test cycle is a very good choice. Also I wouldn't recommend doing D-bol only cycle eventhough some other vets may recommend it. I'd prefer d-bol combined with something Deca or Test (preferably Test)

As for your cycle 10 weeks of D-bol is extremely long and definetely a hazard to your health and liver even for experienced users. As a beginner you shouldn't run it for more than 4 weeks at dosages 20-25 mg/day.

You should definetely have Clomid for post cycle recovery and use Nolva or Arimidex(better) in case you nipples start feeling weird.

 

[Mikey]

Here is my opinion and what worked for me.
Run the Dbol 6 tabs/Day for 6 weeks.
Clomid EOD 50mg. Two weeks post as well.
Gained 10 lbs, kept 5 lbs. Eat right and you should be fine. DIET is the key, as well as supplementation. You did not mention your Milk Thistle, which you will need to fight the toxicity levels from the Dbol. GET IT. Here is my .2 cents.

 

[supertech69]

D-bol is no worse on a beginners liver than it is on a vets liver. D-bol isn't a good choice for a first cycle but, for a large % of AS user (including myself) it was the first cycle & it is best that you use test with it. However, we've all been through this discussion a million times he's got it, he's gonna use it, so, let's give him the info he needs to safely & effectively use it. ALA is an excellent liver protectant, how your liver reacts is totally individual, I don't recommend it by any means but, on my first cycle 25mgED for 11 weeks & my second 45mgED for 13 weeks, I used absolutely no liver protectors & had my liver values checked 3-4 weeks after my cycles & my values were normal. That doesn't mean you should press your luck & try it. I now use ALA for protection & other added benefits. I also kept gains of 7-10lbs both times on d-bol alone. It has a lot to do with eating,rest & training. Stay away form the alcohol & anything else that will put added strain on your liver.

P.S. - Milk thistle is old school & has been proven to basically do jack shit for protection. Don't waste your money on it.

 

[castar]

Ok im going to do 25-30mg of Dbol for 6 weeks. During that time im going to go ahead and order some Nolva and some winny-v. Just want to know if I am supposed be taking Nolva during the Dbol cycle.

 

[supertech69]

Only take the Nolva if you feel gyno starting to show up i.e. - itchy nipples, lump or excessive swelling.

 

[bjtheman]

Bro,
A d-bol only cycle is worthless! Everything you gain you'll lose quickly thereafter. And for time frame don't take d-bol for over 4weeks. Just wait and add some test to keep your gains from your d-bol. Get about a 6-10wks supply of test and run the d-bol the 1st 4wks, and the test from wks 1-whenever! You'll add some good size and will maintain most if not all of your gains.

 

[Powerchord]

You mention getting winny now...bro, your liver will be howling (unless you plan to run the winnt after the dbol, but don't run 'em concurrently)

Pwer

 

[supertech69]

Bro,
A d-bol only cycle is worthless! Everything you gain you'll lose quickly thereafter.

This is a totally non-factual and mis-informed statement. You will not keep ALL your gains from ANY AS without going to another one & it is absolutely possible to keep good gains on d-bol alone as long as you're not going at it half assed in the gym & eating crap every day. Like I said it is not recommended & should be used along with test but, don't believe for one minute that it's not possible.

 

[moe dank]

shit or get off the pot!

25-30mgs dbol week 1-4
200mgs of deca weeks 1-10(get a damn 10ml bottle only $125 more)
add 10 amps of sus if you can. didnt add mine till week 5 so it really didnt do shit for my gains.

Eat like a mad man and wear your balls to the gym!

my first cycle pretty much and i went from bout 155lbs 5'9, to 186lbs at week 9. Got sick as hell and couldnt hit the gym for two weeks. Still kept my gains to 175lbs. No sides other than a zit or two and high blood pressure. I worked at gnc at the time so i ate anything i wanted there. Cals are important. YOUR FOOD MONEY SHOULD BE SAVED ALONG WITH YOUR ROID MONEY. FOOD FOR YOUR BULK CYCLE WILL COST MORE THAN THE JUICE ABOVE!

 

[ceo]

bullshit! 4 weeks? just dont take outrageous doses. 20 - 30 mgs a day, and you can go for 7-8 weeks no probs. Of course drink a ton of water, eat a ton of food, take the ALA or whatever, and get plenty of protein (2-3 grams per lb. of bodyweight ED).

And yes, for God's sake get some test (cheapest) or deca to go with it. Youll be much happier. You can get test domestically for $50 per 10 ml. bottle (200mg). Then take 400 mgs a week of test. Get 2 of those bottles and take for 10 weeks (200 mgs. twice a week).

Oh, and dont start any of it until you have ALL of your shit (including your Nolvadex). If something happened that you couldnt get nolvadex from a source, and you got gyno, youd be pissed and then youd have to have expensive surgery. Trust me its not worth it.

I remember being on Anadrol 50 at 100mgs a day for 7 weeks...mmmmmmm that was the shit (that was 11 yrs ago, real Syntex shit made in USA).

 

[castar]

Ok, I am ordering SuS 250 and nolva. It seems that would be best after reading the responses here. Just need to know how much Sus i should be taking a day/week and when to take the nolvadex.

Do i only take the nolva if my nipples hurt? or Do i just take it during the clomid therapy at the end of my cycle? And how much nolva to take?


week 1-6 30mg dbol ED
week 7 100mg of Clomid ED
week 8 50mg Clomid ED

if someone could insert on that timeline when to begin the Nolva and the Sus I would appreciate it.

 

[supertech69]

Don't you just love punks who leave negative Karma like this:


D-Bol is shit motherfucker


Not even brave enough to leave his name but, I'm pretty sure it's bjtheman . What do you guys think? Too bad his karma strength isn't high enough to hurt me. What a loser & such intelligent use of language! You must be a public speaker. It's better to have people think your an idiot than to open your mouth & prove them right. Do me a favor & peg his candy ass with some negative for me. Unless you too disagree with my statements about d-bol. I mean I would absolutely hate to have my karma taken away because it means so much to me!

 

[castar]

Do i only take the nolva if my nipples hurt? or Do i just take it during the clomid therapy at the end of my cycle? And how much nolva to take?


week 1-6 30mg dbol ED
week 7 100mg of Clomid ED
week 8 50mg Clomid ED

if someone could insert on that timeline when to begin the Nolva and the Sus I would appreciate it.

repost

 

[supertech69]

Nolva is a just in case type thing, you always want to have it on hand if gyno starts to show up. You do not need to take it otherwise & that includes post cycle with clomid.

You are close on the clomid therapy:

300mg day 1
100mgED days 2-11
50mgED days 12-21

Start your sust the same time you start d-bol. I start clomid 3 weeks after my last injection but, I also run 15-20mgED of d-bol durring that last 3 weeks to keep as much of my gains as possible then start my clomid the day after my last dose of d-bol.

 

[ceo]

Ok, I am ordering SuS 250 and nolva. It seems that would be best after reading the responses here. Just need to know how much Sus i should be taking a day/week and when to take the nolvadex.

Do i only take the nolva if my nipples hurt? or Do i just take it during the clomid therapy at the end of my cycle? And how much nolva to take?


week 1-6 30mg dbol ED
week 7 100mg of Clomid ED
week 8 50mg Clomid ED

if someone could insert on that timeline when to begin the Nolva and the Sus I would appreciate it.

I personally dont like Sust. b/c of the prop in it (hurts too damn much). Test Cyp. is muuuch nicer (no pain) in my opinion. Cyp is cheaper too...like I said earlier you can get a 10 ml bottle domestic for like $50.

But, if you go with the sust. take 500 mgs a week (250 twice a week). If you get the Cyp. take 400 mgs a week (200 twice a week- of the 200mg/ml).

Start the sust right away (like supertech69 said).

If youre using sust. start clomid 3 weeks after last inj.
If youre using cyp. start clomid 2 weeks after last inj.

Id run the test for 10 weeks, and the Dbol for 6 to 8 weeks (Id run it for 8 but thats me).

 

[castar]

OK got my nolva/clomid/dbol/sus


cycle gonna be 25mg of dbol for 1-6 weeks
1-10 weeks of sustaretard/omnidren
then 11-13 weeks clomid therapy

 

[mrt]

start your clomid therapy after 3 weeks of your last sust shot!