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scoobysgym
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Been in the military for over 8 years been using for the last 5 with no problems and I have taken countless urinallis tests. So I would have to say there is no worries. Well at least in the best branch of the Military. PM If you need anything further
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You are usually pretty safe as long as you don't talk about it, let a bunch of other see you using, get caught with possession, or blow up real fast to cause suspicion. They normally only test if there is evidence against you and they need to prove the point.
justinjones1963
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My last job in the military was discharging people under UCMJ for misconduct. Out of the 100+ cases I worked on not one was for AAS.
Routine military drug tests do not test for AAS - check your regs – they list the specific drugs that are tested.
Commanders in all branches can request a test for a specific substance, including AAS, but unless you have a commander who is a total ass, you should be fine. Keep it under wraps and watch out who you share your thoughts with. There are agents (CID in the Army for example) that look like normal joes but their sole purpose is to investigate stuff like this. In Germany we had an E-4 who we thought was CID and we found out eventually he was. We never invited him to drink with us and treated him like the plague.
The most common mistake is using gear with your fellow soldiers - one gets caught and rats on the rest. I've lost count of the cases of normal drug use that I encountered where one guy got popped and ratted on his buddies.
I have to mention this one but there was a blonde hottie that liked nose candy – and getting choo-choo trained in the barracks. She tested positive for cocaine and ratted on everyone. Some of the dudes were married – stick with the AAS and you will be fine
Routine military drug tests do not test for AAS - check your regs – they list the specific drugs that are tested.
Commanders in all branches can request a test for a specific substance, including AAS, but unless you have a commander who is a total ass, you should be fine. Keep it under wraps and watch out who you share your thoughts with. There are agents (CID in the Army for example) that look like normal joes but their sole purpose is to investigate stuff like this. In Germany we had an E-4 who we thought was CID and we found out eventually he was. We never invited him to drink with us and treated him like the plague.
The most common mistake is using gear with your fellow soldiers - one gets caught and rats on the rest. I've lost count of the cases of normal drug use that I encountered where one guy got popped and ratted on his buddies.
I have to mention this one but there was a blonde hottie that liked nose candy – and getting choo-choo trained in the barracks. She tested positive for cocaine and ratted on everyone. Some of the dudes were married – stick with the AAS and you will be fine
scout69
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I was in the army for 3 years..Fort Knox kY...And I juiced while I was in I know alot of people that do my friend now is in the marines and he's a beast..You'll be fine the dont test for that hell when they test you in basic and shit like when you go home for christmas and come back and they piss test the whole squad for drugs they dont even test all of them the randomoly send them, but even those tests are for Coke THC Morphine you know the usual shit you'll be good....
Thanks for your service guys.
goblue1997
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I served my four years and never worried about it. If you keep it to yourself you should be fine. Since when do they do regular blood test?? Sounds like your overreacting. I dont know what branch of service your in but when i was on ship i had a good hiding spot for my gear. Never keep it with your personal shit cuz if they do locker inspections and find it your fucked.
Ive been in the army 18 years and have been on and off the juice. I was using Tren Depot and my blood pressure rocketed and I eventually had heart problems and had to go to a civilian doctor after an emergeny room visit away from the military (a long story). They ran a full spectrum of blood and urine tests. They also ran my blood and urine for drugs as well. Neither the Teast nor the Tren I was taking showed up. I then went to an Army doctor later and he ran more blood and urine tests and found nothing. I've been through about 20 piss tests while on the sauce and never had an issue. Like someone stated earlierin this thread, your commander has to request a steroid test and has to have a substantiated reason for requesting it or it wont happen. Keep quiet and no one will catch you.
BigCracker
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You'll be fine as long as you don't run around flexing and roid raging on everyone. I'd still be discreet about who I told though.
I did it and I was worried for a little while but after about 4 piss test and no questions. To be honest I think some people caught on but when you look shit hot in the uniform you make youself look good and represent well.. For those against aas well ???? They don't pull you aside and say anything I knew plenty of people that did it.. They had a GNC so everyone knows you just take some supplts. and thats it lol. my advice pull the triggerdicedgunz said:
Illuminati
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dicedgunz said:
if you are gonna do it, don't tell anybody. just go on about your business. when I was in the military, I actually looked through the regs, and I believe it was something to the tune of only 1000 people needed to be tested for AAS over a 2year period military wide. so your chance of getting tested is extremely slim. your command can request a test for AAS, but this will most likely not happen
So I got beat up pretty badly on my last tour. I have a medical evalutation through veterans affairs to get my problems documented. That way when I am sixty i can get disability to pay for these problems aquired thanks to the enemy. My question is when they do blood work which they will, anybody know if they will say anything about my AAS use? I will be on when I have to get the checkup. I know they wont tell the military but i am worried about getting disqualified for disability for hearing aides and other stuff later down the road just because I juiced. I am worried they will try to say IED's didnt cause my problems and that the AAS did. They know that will save them money.
JuicedAthletics
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God Bless this guy, but have you seen pictures of Pat Tillman? He was not only big, but solid as a rock. He had that juicer look about him.
I dont see how you can look like him with 4-6 hours of sleep and meals out of a plastic bag.
RIP
I dont see how you can look like him with 4-6 hours of sleep and meals out of a plastic bag.
RIP
Illuminati
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snowyk12 said:
they won't disqualify you for benefits. as long as things are already documented in your medical record, you will be fine. I slipped a disk when I was in. started a cycle when I got out. had my medical evaluation while I was on. they didn't say anything.
Not sure what you are going to try an claim for disabilities, sounds like just your hearing, but make sure that it was doccumented while you were in the military. you file your claim based upon your medical record. (make sure you make a complete copy of your medical record for yourself before you get out.) in my case, I filed for my back. they called me in for a medical evaluation, to verify my claim, and all they checked my was to see if I still had symptoms of a slipped disk (numbness/loss of strength in my foot...) most likely, all they will check is your hearing if that is all you are claiming.
on a side note, make sure you start your claim process within one year of getting out. as long as you do this, they will give you back pay for your disability to the date that you got out. dont wait till you are 60, file your claim now, and start getting your disability checks.
Alright.... I don't want to have anyone think poorly of me for saying this but once upon a time I was an OSI agent for the Air Force. I can tell you just about anything you want to know about what they do and do not do. Bottom line is this:
1. They only test for rec drugs as stated before. In order to test you for anything else you must be suspected and you have to be requested by your commander. It costs uncle sugar a lot of money to test you and it is rare.
2. Most of the time "the bad man" is not going to try to set you up to buy something like gear. I worked specifically with drugs for four years as an agent and I NEVER nor did I EVER see an agent try to bag someone for gear. I have seen individuals get busted because they got huge too fast. If you use common sense and you don't bulk up too fast you will be fine.
3. If someone supects you and tells anyone up in your chain of command and it makes it to the commander you are fucked plain and simple. You will get a dishonorable and you will probably do some time with Bubba, Tiny, and Snowflake. If you are lucky you will just get the dishonorable but that is as good as it could get.
I wanted to reiterate that I am not doing that job anymore, I'm no longer in the military, and I'm just giving you my 2 cents to help you out. If you have any more questions send me a message. If I don't know, I can point you in the right direction.
Don't forget, if you live on base or work on base you can be searched at any time (because you are on their property). They are not civilian police and they do not have to follow the same rules concerning resonable doubt (to a degree). However, if they want to search your car tell them NO (even though the sign on the gate says they can at any time, that's not 100% accurate and resonable doubt applies). Most likely you will just get escorted off base. I could go into this more but it would take more time than it is worth.
1. They only test for rec drugs as stated before. In order to test you for anything else you must be suspected and you have to be requested by your commander. It costs uncle sugar a lot of money to test you and it is rare.
2. Most of the time "the bad man" is not going to try to set you up to buy something like gear. I worked specifically with drugs for four years as an agent and I NEVER nor did I EVER see an agent try to bag someone for gear. I have seen individuals get busted because they got huge too fast. If you use common sense and you don't bulk up too fast you will be fine.
3. If someone supects you and tells anyone up in your chain of command and it makes it to the commander you are fucked plain and simple. You will get a dishonorable and you will probably do some time with Bubba, Tiny, and Snowflake. If you are lucky you will just get the dishonorable but that is as good as it could get.
I wanted to reiterate that I am not doing that job anymore, I'm no longer in the military, and I'm just giving you my 2 cents to help you out. If you have any more questions send me a message. If I don't know, I can point you in the right direction.
Don't forget, if you live on base or work on base you can be searched at any time (because you are on their property). They are not civilian police and they do not have to follow the same rules concerning resonable doubt (to a degree). However, if they want to search your car tell them NO (even though the sign on the gate says they can at any time, that's not 100% accurate and resonable doubt applies). Most likely you will just get escorted off base. I could go into this more but it would take more time than it is worth.
xido said:
We can but we don't decide. The list of drugs that are tested on a "random" and I would like to once again draw your attention to the fact I added the " " to that, are determined by your commander. Usually an eight panel test. It costs too much money for them to test for gear and frankly it is one of the least abused drugs. They are after the shit that causes the "social and moral" problems like coke, meth, etc.... The bottom line is this, it comes down to money. A commander can do a random drug test at anytime. In order to get by with this all tests are done in mass. That is to say they don't just call in one person at a time. This keeps it legal and it is easier for the Judge Advocate to do their job. If they start doing one person at a time they have to have resonable doubt to suspect that they are under the influence (it's in their system) of that drug at that very moment in time. This is actually harder to prove than you might think. It would be far too expensive to do a mass drug test for gear, plus you would have too test a lot of individuals that you know are not on gear. The old fat Major, the skinny 18 year old girl, etc... That is not considered economical and they just don't do it. Almost 90 percent of the individuals I have seen busted were ratted out by their girlfriends/wives or they were rolled on by another user. Only way two people can keep a secret is if one of them is dead. I would never ever have a buddy I did gear with in the military. Not only do you have to worry about you but now you have to worry about him as well. The military is well known for cutting deals for rats.
my crew was tested enmass for gear by a new battalion CO. small specialty group with high unit visibility though. though rare the test arent as expensive as most would lead you to believe and your CO can pretty much do what the fuck he wants anyday of the week. if you're gonna i'd suggest you not try to put on 15+ lbs, and dont risk it if your job puts you in any sort of spotlight or special scrutiny. dishonorable discharge is a scarlet letter you dont want to be fuckin with brothers
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Gumaro said:
some of us make six figures
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snowyk12 said:
don't worry about the blood work, you should be good.
hrlydvdson1
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matter of time, they are a GOVERNMENT entity!
sofakingdel
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dicedgunz said:
Don't draw suspicion to yourself, don't talk about it, don't drive with anything in your car ever, don't use Tren before a PFT, you'll be fine.
solidspine
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When I was in the military they never tested for anything
1968-1970
1968-1970
dtsnow2000
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dicedgunz said:
bro, your good to go. i was in the military for a good while, never got tested never heard of anyone i knew getting tested. i was stationed at Ft. Bliss in el paso. used to go to juarez all the time. however thats a different story now.
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