i just got the gurus jeff summers steroid newsletter in the mail anyway did you guys see part were they had new gear like the test 400 by denkall well right next to it the had a patch that supposedly deliverd 20mg of testosterone over a 24 hr peroid and jeff summers was sayin how great it is no more abscesess from injection etc.this guy is trying to pull a bill phillips do you guys remember when muscle media 2000 would always have articles about steroid written by dan duchaine and then all of the sudden those articles dissappeared and they started pushing there steroid like products.(HMB THIS STUFF FEELS LIKE DECA! WHAT A FUCKIN JOKE!)ANYWAY THATS THE SAME THING THAT SKINNY FOOL JEFF SUMMERS IS DOING YOU FLIP TO THE BACK OF HIS NEWS LETTER AND HOLY SHIT! HES SELLIN A TESTOSTERONE PATCH ONLY UPON A CLOSER LOOK ITS REALLY A WORTHLESS ANDROSTENDIONE PATCH! GIMME A BREAK MAN THIS GUY HAS NEVER COMPETED IN THE NPC AT A NATIONAL LEVEL AND HIS WEBSITE SUCKS HE JUST PUSHES SUPPLEMENTS ITS RIDICULIOS. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? OH YEA H HES SO BIG A STRONG HE HAS TO BE A GURU RIGHT?