Jay Z, Kanye, Madonna Join Stevie Wonder's FL Boycott In Wake Of Zimmerman Verdict

[gjohnson5]

Re: Jay Z, Kanye, Madonna Join Stevie Wonder's FL Boycott In Wake Of Zimmerman Verdic

Doesn't the mere existence of a neighborhood watch serve as a testament to the fundamental breakdown of our law enforcement system?

I agree with you. However if the police at times use bad judgement what would you expect a bigbassturd or zwhit judgement to be like? You go from the frying pan into the fire. Atleast the police have some if not alot of training on de-escalation procedures. IMHO if these folks had to take a psychological assessment before purchasing a firearm , they would fail.

Why should neighborhoods feel the need to self-organize into "Watches" in the first place? It's happened in thousands of neighborhoods across the country and all races are represented. So it clearly isn't a socioeconomic issue.

I disagree. Poverty has alot to do with crime. Crime has alot to do with opportunity and proximity. The neighborhoods with with the worse crime problems probably should have more watchers But these neighborhoods would probably would more problems with police response. Maybe in those cases they should handle more of those types of problems internally.

Maybe this is a watershed event. Maybe we just need to crack-down on crime. Maybe people need to realize that actions have consequences.

That's the heart of the issue. I'm not so sure if I agree that citizen should be in the business to handing out consequences for crimes when we have a criminal justice system!! The laws are in place to protect folks. The ones in the right AND the ones in the wrong.

Here's an interesting thought:

- When schools fail students, we decide they just need more cash.
- When Medicare runs hundred-billion dollar plus shortfalls, we decide it just needs more cash.
- When cities mismanage themselves and make promises to workers they can't keep, we decide they just need more cash.

Has nothing to do with this conversation. I agree government has problems but eliminating it or completely defunding it is not the answer.

Shouldn't law enforcement need more cash too? What if we doubled-down on our crackdown on crime -- particularly burglary, muggings, murders, rape and even drugs. Think about how much we could reduce crime if we could just properly store petty burglars and drug users/dealers in prison.

It wont fix the problem. Cory Booker (mayor of Newark) said you cannot arrest your way out economic and quality of life issues. Prisons dont rehabilitate people. They get out of jail and can't find work. Ultimately many people end up back in jail.

Are we on the same page here? Do you like where this is going?

Alteast we can talk civilly

 

[hardrock]

Re: Jay Z, Kanye, Madonna Join Stevie Wonder's FL Boycott In Wake Of Zimmerman Verdic

Fuck em. I hope they are all on a plane that gets shot down by a missing WWII plane over the Bermuda Triangle.

 

[mrplunkey]

Re: Jay Z, Kanye, Madonna Join Stevie Wonder's FL Boycott In Wake Of Zimmerman Verdic

Apparently the boycott isn't going to well in terms of participation.

But I think there's a better idea anyway. We need to form a Facebook page for those same celebrities to sign a no-lethal-weapons pledge. It would be simple:

I <name here> pledge to refuse to employ any form of potentially lethal weapon directly or through any member of my staff/team for any purpose whatsoever.

I bet Kanye would sign up first. Either him or Lil Wayne. This will make the world a safer place and then their fans can follow their example which would multiply the benefit.

 

[bigbassturd]

*too

 

[mrplunkey]

Re: Jay Z, Kanye, Madonna Join Stevie Wonder's FL Boycott In Wake Of Zimmerman Verdic

Well fuck me running.

 

[-SD-]

Re: Jay Z, Kanye, Madonna Join Stevie Wonder's FL Boycott In Wake Of Zimmerman Verdic

Kickoff cant some soon enough