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IV Vitamin Infusion Therapy

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Has anyone tried this? Looks to be a big thing in Miami. Offering various types of IV's from Vitamin boosts, Amino Acids, Hangover relief, Libido boost, Recovery, Rejuvenation, Fatigue, etc!

I'm curious if anyone has tried this and what their thoughts were? It's not cheap but not too expensive either if it works.
 
I think there is a place for certain IV/IM/SC nutrients but by and large I think its just another way for those places to gouge people for money. Most nutrients are easily enough absorbed via digestion so really what people need to do is look at their overall supplementation plan and shore up whats missing.

IV vitamin C is a very powerful tool for fighting disease and toxins, combined with a little glutathione may be worthwhile to do once in a while.

B12 injections are another thing I would consider BUT if you truly do have a b12 deficiency the currently prescribed injectable dosing schedule is by and large not suffiencient. Your better off getting a script and getting some from a compounding pharmecy. Or alternatively just take high doses subliminally.
 
Vitamin C: Panacea?

Perhaps the most underutilized nutrient, Vitamin C is not actually a vitamin at all. Produced in the livers of higher mammals such as goats and sheep, and in the kidneys of lower animals like fish and lizards, Vitamin C is truly a metabolic product derived from one of the sugar molecules. In our discussion we use the terms ascorbic acid and Vitamin C interchangeably. As highly evolved creatures as human beings are, it seems that we have lost the ability to produce perhaps one of the most important nutrients known to man. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is required in well over 400 known chemical reactions in the body in order for them to be carried out most efficiently. One of the most important ones is in the formation of the substance collagen. Collagen is the material that keeps us together and makes our skin and connective tissues more elastic and resilient.

What's the problem?

As hypothesized by Dr. Irwin stone in his book entitled The Healing Factor, some 50+ million years ago, when ape-like ancestors of ours lived an arboreal lifestyle (in trees), there was an abundance of citrus and ascorbic acid containing foodstuffs to provide the organisms with an adequate daily dose. It is believed that with the abundance of Vitamin C available, the organism no longer needed to tax its metabolism with the production of it. A crucial enzyme, L-Gulonolactone Oxidase, which is responsible for the conversion of the sugar molecule, had been mutated out of the genetic code..
All of the other organisms on the planet today who can produce Vitamin C have this enzyme. Only roughly 5 or 6 different types of creatures cannot produce it- humans, primates, guinea pigs, fruit bats, and some modern birds and fish. All others produce it in their livers and kidneys as mentioned above. Some physicians, such as Doctor Mary, recommend doses far greater than those that are usually given. These doses are based on the animal models in nature. If we look at one of these animals, a goat for instance, we will find that on any given day, just walking around, without stress, this animal will produce between 5-15 grams of ascorbic acid. If we average this out to 10 grams, this is the required dose that is recommended to aid the immune system in normal, optimal physical health. This same goat, if stressed, will produce 5-10 times its baseline levels of ascorbic acid. That is, it will produce, in its liver, between 50 and 100 grams, in response to the stresses. Without the enzyme, humans cannot provide their systems with the anti-oxidant protection that ascorbic acid was designed to provide. Back to the story.

As evolution pushed on, these organisms progressed towards a bi-pedal existence (walking on two feet). Since there was no longer a ready supply of life sustaining ascorbic acid, these organisms experienced seasonal fluctuations in health and sickness. During the spring and summer months there was an abundance of ascorbate rich food. On the contrary, during the winter months they experienced death, plague, and epidemics of infectious diseases. Perhaps the terrible plagues of the middle ages could be directly related to the lack of ascorbate in the diet during those times.

In more recent times, during the 17th and 18th centuries, thousands of apparently healthy young sailors died while on long voyages overseas from the disease scurvy, or a lack of ascorbic acid in their diet. Of note, credit should be give to the british naval surgeon Dr. James Lind, who while on a long voyage discovered that the juice of one half of a lime would prevent the terrible disease from occuring. This is the reason british sailors are referred to as "limeys".

In modern times credit should be given to men such as Albert Sczent-Gyorgi, who discovered the molecular structure of ascorbic acid, Irwin Stone, who in working closely with Sczent-Gyorgi, performed many experiments and wrote several books and articles on the subject, and Frederick Klenner, a practicing physician from North Carolina who pioneered the use of ascorbic acid in a clinical setting. Dr. Klenner successfully treated thousands of patients with every diagnosis imaginable with mega-doses of C. Also of note is Dr. Robert Cathcart who developed the concept of bowel tolerance in oral consumption of C as well as the use of high dose C therapy in serious infections such as aids, pneumonia and influenza.

Bowel tolerance dosing.

The concept of bowel tolerance dosing with Vitamin C is an important one as it can greatly reduce the severity and strength of many if not all acute disease processes. The procedure is as follows: Pure ascorbic acid powder is preferred, but if patients have gastrointestinal problems, buffered powder can be used. In general, 1 level teaspoon of powder equals 4000mg. At the onset of symptoms patients will start taking 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of Vitamin C powder in juice or water every hour on the hour until they experience loose bowels. In a healthy individual, the tolerance level may only be 10 to 15 grams, as the body has less stress and the requirement is much lower. However, in the stressed individual, patients are frequently amazed at the amount of C they can consume before loose bowels occur. This is easy to understand as the requirements increase tremendously in illness.

Side effects???????

There are many unsubstantiated claims about Vitamin C ranging from causing kidney stones to helping cancer grow. We can tell you- irrefutably- that this is one of the greatest lies in medicine. If Vitamin C caused stones, every emergency room in the Gulf South would have standing room only for patients writhing in pain from excess C consumption and their stones. The walls of the clinic would be lined with buckets full of stones. This is simply not the case. In fact, with over 30 billion milligrams given and about 1 million milligrams per day, we continue to prove this claim incorrect. It is amazing how inadequate and improper research can skew the public eye. There are, however, some things to watch out for.

Vitamin C can cause an increase in the absorption of iron. This can be good and bad. People who are iron deficient, for whatever reason, can benefit from its use. There are some patients who have a disease called hemochromatosis with excess iron in their bodies. These people may be affected by excess Vitamin C, so they must pay attention to too much use of it. Nonetheless, they can safely take several thousand milligrams without fear. Another group of patients, usually of Mediterranean descent, may have something called Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase deficiency (aka: G6PD). G6PD deficiency patients may develop breakdown of their red blood cells, hemolysis, if exceptionally large doses of Vitamin C are given. In the last thirty years we have seen 2 or 3 of these cases, and these patients were in the hospital receiving large doses intravenously. Again, these patients may take several thousand milligrams orally with impunity. Finally, some patients may test positive on the stool occult blood test and should refrain from large doses when this testing is to be done.

Proper dosages

As mentioned above, we feel that all humans require around 10,000mg (10 grams) per day. This is easily acquired if taken in divided doses. We prefer the powdered ascorbic acid and if 1 teaspoon is taken in juice or water twice a day, it is easy to approach the level. Remember, everyone is different. Some may not need as much and some may require more. Also remember that if gastrointestinal problems occur, you may need a buffered variety that is not as acidic.
 
Vitamins are absorbed very well through oral ingestions. Other substances, not do much. Amino acid injections can be tremendously effective because they essentially impart their effect on muscle directly. The closest thing to that is superplasma serum, which is recognized i the body in the same way.
 
Vitamins are absorbed very well through oral ingestions. Other substances, not do much. Amino acid injections can be tremendously effective because they essentially impart their effect on muscle directly. The closest thing to that is superplasma serum, which is recognized i the body in the same way.

I have always wondered about the absorption rate of vitamins. I have had several doctors tell me that when you ingest pills that the body releases 90% of them in the urine and you do not get the full benefit of it. This looks promising. Good article
 
I have always wondered about the absorption rate of vitamins. I have had several doctors tell me that when you ingest pills that the body releases 90% of them in the urine and you do not get the full benefit of it. This looks promising. Good article

There are many variables. First you have product quality. Garbage in garbage out. There are often times many forms of various vitamins, some forms are virtually worthless while others are quite effective.

Some things like vitamin C also have a very short half life once in serum (ie 30 minutes) and we can only absorb so much at a time. This is why frequent doses of vit C are recommended throughout the day.

IV/C is a great immune system boost and can flush out a lot of toxins but once again due to its short half life in the blood unless treating cancer, infections, viruses etc, its not very practical to do IV/C every day.

Other nutrients like b12 can be very beneficial injected but like will be of little benefit unless someone has a deficiency or a problem with their methylation cycle. Once again the form of b12 used is vital. Cyanocobalamin (oral or inj) is junk and should be avoided.

Docs generally steer people away from nutritional supplements because its an extremely complex web that they are simply not prepared to handle. 100 years ago doctors treated people with nutrients and natural products and directives. Today however since those items cant be patented the focus has shifted to synthetic drugs and medical practitioners now spend all their time studying how these chemicals affect us instead of how nutrients affect us.

Im a firm believe that>90% of the "problems" people live with every day can be addressed with nutrition directly by altering diet OR supplementing with nutrients. Whats sad is the number of people who count calories, carbs and protien and place them on a pedestal when it comes to gaining muscle but wont even question the micronutrient content and its affects on overall health and performance. These are usually the same people complaining because the have some issue but swear its not nutrient related because they "eat clean".
 
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