It's Official: Muscle Media sucks

[Cuts]

I have been a long-time MM reader since way back in '95. I have stuck with the mag through it's roller coaster like transitions over the years... from hardcore to Men's Health type stuff to a monthly BFL digest to a quasi-weight watchers mag for fat people to it's state today--absolutely pathetic.

I'm sick of that homo Pavel Tsoutsawhatever and his gay ass kettleball bullshit. I'm sick of their 14 year old editors-in-chief. And I'm sick of trying to relate to their latest "silver fox" 102 year old champ!

I know a lot of y'all don't like the guy, but without Bill Phillips spearheading the operation, I can almost predict it's demise within 3 years. They've lost one reader that's for sure.

O.k. I feel better.

 

[st8k_lover]

That rag has sucked for years. If not for EAS supporting them as an advertising life raft, they would have sunk for sure, as I am sure they cant sell to many copies a month. Just my Opinion




God bless the United States and her soldiers:mp5:

 

[SofaGeorge]

Yup... it went from the best mag to the worst rag.

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

havent read it for years...two thumbs down.

 

[javaguru]

I think I bought my first issue in 1992 and my last in 1998, it used to be a pretty good magazine.

 

[Cuts]

BUMP...

...for more MM lambasting. I want more. MORE!

 

[johnny1111]

MM2K used to be the best, now it's the worst. -john

 

[Rich_S]

All bodybuilding magazines suck ass!!! They exist SOLELY to sell supplements. That's where all the real money is made in this industry.

The Weider magazines are pure shit and always have been. Muscle and Fiction over the past 20 or so years has been the source of 90%+ of all training myths and mis-information.

MM2K was a decent magazine (from the standpoint of training and diet info) for a short period of time in the mid 90's, although they were always just a walking advertisement for EAS supplements.

Ironman was always an excellent magazine for training info up until the late 90's when they jumped on the supplement hype bandwagon and moved away from a powerlifting/weightlifting/strongman bias and onto the bodybuilding bandwagon.

Testosterone magazine has some decent articles by Poliquin, Ian King, Dave Tate, etc., but they're still just a walking advertisement for Biotest.

 

[Thaibox]

BUMP...

...for more MM lambasting. I want more. MORE!

Man on a mission


At any one time, this web site has more valuable information than any muscle mag has had for the last 5 years combined.

 

[louden_swain]

I think the mags are cool in terms of photos. It is interesting to see guys pressing over 405lbs on incline and performing militaries with 315lbs. Like someone else said, these magazines are designed to serve as a marketing tool for supplements.

 

[Rich_S]

I think the mags are cool in terms of photos. It is interesting to see guys pressing over 405lbs on incline and performing militaries with 315lbs. Like someone else said, these magazines are designed to serve as a marketing tool for supplements.

Apart from Ronnie Coleman, Greg Kovacs, and possibly Dorian Yates, how many other current bodybuilders can use those kind of poundages?

 

[louden_swain]

Apart from Ronnie Coleman, Greg Kovacs, and possibly Dorian Yates, how many other current bodybuilders can use those kind of poundages?

Kevin Levrone, Jay Cutler, Flex Wheeler, Markus Ruhl. . .the list can go on and on. I used to have a subscription to flex and I have seen these guys using this type of weight.

People on this board forget how strong these guys are.

 

[Thaibox]

Apart from Ronnie Coleman, Greg Kovacs, and possibly Dorian Yates, how many other current bodybuilders can use those kind of poundages?

Swain is right. These aren't even mythical #'s. There are guys on this board that can surpass these weights. Two I've lifted with, so I can account for it.

 

[Rich_S]

Swain is right. These aren't even mythical #'s. There are guys on this board that can surpass these weights. Two I've lifted with, so I can account for it.

It's not the 405 incline press numbers that I have a hard time understanding, but the 315 military press. That is a sick amount of weight to be pressing overhead with strict form.

 

[louden_swain]

It's not the 405 incline press numbers that I have a hard time understanding, but the 315 military press. That is a sick amount of weight to be pressing overhead with strict form.

Believe it bro. . .believe it. These guys are in a different league. I can't imagine what is occurring inside their bodies. I have seen a picture with Dorian Yates using 365lbs on the Smith Machine frontal shoulder press.

 

[gmanlax7]

ive seen guys at the gym doing military presses with 225 for a lot of reps, so for the pro's to be working with 315 considering it is their life is no suprise

 

[bigjaw]

whatdaymean 315 military press only for the pros -
buddy of mine used to do 315 behind the neck strict as hell for 15.
Also an old buddy of mine could military press - now get this - 405 for reps.
When I was benching 350 I could behind the neck press 260 with strict form for good reps.
but then I'm only an average kinda guy...currently can only military or behind neck press 155 for 12 and find that damn hard.
Funny how things change as you get old.....er....

 

[guldukat]

Cuts,

Yeah, "Muscle Media 2000" used to be worthwhile. I read it about a year after I started lifting (15-16 years old) in '94. The drug information wasn't useful to me at that point, but it did have a kind of hard-core, real attitude toward bodybuilding in general...at least, for the off-the-rack muscle rags.

These were the days RIGHT before EAS started.

About late '95 it started sucking, when EAS came along and the magazine seemed to only feature guys who talked about stabilizer strength more than moving heavy iron in squats, bench presses etc. Charles Poliquin is probably THE only exception, and even then I didn't agree with everything he said. (Before Mentzer died, he was a little harsh with Mike, who was a good friend of mine. But after Mike passed away, Charles was totally respectful. Probably a good man.)

After that? It completely turned into a "Body for Life"/EAS ad. It wasn't much different than "Muscle and Fitness," another piece of shit rag for people who want to "tone" and want to be super-healthy first, big a distant second.

All I ever read those things for anymore are the pictures, to see the sorts of things Louden was talking about. It's rad to see some pro incline pressing 495 or doing a legit leg press with about 1,800 lbs. And MM2k doesn't even have that.

 

[Tarheel]

Indeed, MM sucks.

But Pavel Tsatsouline is a genius.