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[rcoury33]

hey boys,

some backround info:

24 y.o
200 lbs.
12% b.f

My first and last cycle was done earlier this year(Jan-Mar)which consisted of:

Week 1-10 test E - 500mgs a week
Week 3-10 Var - Upping the Var 10mgs every week until about 100mg at week 10.
Week 1-10 - Liquidex 1cc every pin day so every MON and THUR
2 weeks after last pin started PCT which was clomid 50mg ED for 4 weeks.

Was up to about 215 strong as ever and the var and liquidex kept the water weight down a little.

Noticed a marble size lump under my right nipple that was very sensitive for months and noticed puss type stuff if i squeezed my nipples. noticed about half way through PCT but now seems to have disappeared. Gyno prone?

Been in the gym off AAS since then. Dieting, Vitamins, Exercise. I feel im ready to move forward and do a nice cut type cycle with proper training and diet.

Considering doing the test Prop/Masteron stack. Also have 50x25mg winny tabs sitting around but was also considering Equipoise.

Goals are to cut down a little body fat, develop more vascular hard looking muscle and of course gain strength!!

With that being said i leave a few questions for some vets to leave their own 2cents on.

A few questions:
1. Did i screw up something during my first PCT? prone to gyno slightly?
2. Do you recommend any different PCT in new cycle as like Nolva instead? Also HCG? i didnt use last time and seemed to recover fine. couldnt hurt to try i guess? Continue to throw in Liqudex during cycle?
3. Dosage/Length for new cycle? and curious if should dump 1 or stack all 3. test Prop/Mast/EQ? Winny tabs?

Looking forward to hearing for you guys

This pic was week 7 or so of my first cycle...what would you say my bf % was?

 

[rcoury33]

any help here?

 

[brownbrown]

[/QUOTE]
A few questions:
1. Did i screw up something during my first PCT? prone to gyno slightly?
2. Do you recommend any different PCT in new cycle as like Nolva instead? Also HCG? i didnt use last time and seemed to recover fine. couldnt hurt to try i guess? Continue to throw in Liqudex during cycle?
3. Dosage/Length for new cycle? and curious if should dump 1 or stack all 3. test Prop/Mast/EQ? Winny tabs?

Looking forward to hearing for you guys

This pic was week 7 or so of my first cycle...what would you say my bf % was?[/QUOTE]

1. Yea pct was lacking. yes hgc NO novla. Look into some otc pct products too.
Yes keep dex on cycle imo

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[rcoury33]

advice please. so many views no posts?

 

[25homes]

Your pct caused it imo..that too high dose clomid for.too long..clomid should of been 25Mg 2 Weeks 12.5Mg 2 Weeks...should have ran post cycle and unleashed with pct...I would have ran hcg during cycle...this cause lump clomid had your estrogen levels way too high

 

[rcoury33]

Your pct caused it imo..that too high dose clomid for.too long..clomid should of been 25Mg 2 Weeks 12.5Mg 2 Weeks...should have ran post cycle and unleashed with pct...I would have ran hcg during cycle...this cause lump clomid had your estrogen levels way too high

Thanks. i will def. try less clomid this time and still not 100% about hcg..but what are your considerations for new cycle...

 

[25homes]

Id say bf was 12% +/- prop mast b good cycle could throw Winny in at end if you lean out under 9%...use adex. Same way...run hcg 500iu twice week during cycle. Do pct with what I stated above no nolva

 

[rcoury33]

i would really like a ton of advice from all you board members!

 

[25homes]

What dose you running prop and mast

 

[rcoury33]

im thinking 100mg each EOD for 10 weeks. so a combined 2cc shot EOD...

 

[rcoury33]

thanks for being the only one really interested a bit in shooting me some advice bro.

but have not started yet. getting together all the suggestions and everything. should be ordering supplies very soon here. thinking about:

*Week 1-10 Prop 100mg EOD
*Week 1-10 Mast 100mg EOD
Week 1-10 -------L-Dex .5ml EOD
Week 7 --------- Winny Tabs 25mg ED
Week 8-10------- Winny Tabs 50mg ED
(trying to figure out a good way to stack 50x25mg winny tabs. the way i wrote will be a total of 49. what do you think?)
PCT 3-4 days after last pin Clomid 25/25/25

*=same syringe. one pin.

 

[25homes]

Sounds like a good dose.is it mast e or mast a

 

[joeblow12345]

I think you need to get more winny and run it the last 6 weeks. The test p and mast p are fine. Atlthough throwing in some primo would be even better. Id up the test p and mast if not to 150 mgs of each eod. So here it is.
1-12 test p 150 mgs eod
1-12 mast p 150 mgs eod
1-12 primo ace 100 mgs eod
6-12 winny 50 mgs day
1-13 adex 0.5 mg eod or every 3 rd day.
8-12 hcgenerate
12-14 hcg 250 ius 2 xs week
13-17 clomid 25 mg day
13-17 post cycle/ unleashed combo
13-17 forma or adex
17-21 bridge or sarms

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[rcoury33]

thanks for the feedback. what is your experiance with either mast e or mast a? what is the difference or preferred with test p. and why do you suggest primo? and 3cc total EOD for test p and mast will be alot to inject EOD. also with primo

 

[rcoury33]

also the vials i get are 20ml so how would you split that up...

 

[joeblow12345]

thanks for the feedback. what is your experiance with either mast e or mast a? what is the difference or preferred with test p. and why do you suggest primo? and 3cc total EOD for test p and mast will be alot to inject EOD. also with primo

Mast e is the long ester version and mast p is the short. Your wanting to run a cutting cycle and test p, and mast p is a good route. However mast isnt very strong thats why I suggested throwing the primo acetate in with it. Primo is a great cutting steroid that produces good retainable gains. This is a good cutting cycle for beginners,that shouldnt cause any problems or drastic sides. If you were an experienced user, Id throw in tren ace and maybe some var as a kicker and winny at the end.

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[joeblow12345]

also the vials i get are 20ml so how would you split that up...

It depends, what is your gear is dosed at per ml?

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[rcoury33]

so if i have a 20ml vial and im doing 100mg or 1cc EOD that will only last like a month?

 

[joeblow12345]

so if i have a 20ml vial and im doing 100mg or 1cc EOD that will only last like a month?

Correct about 40 days. Thats why its more cost efficient to run long esters. I can go through a bottle of test prop in like a week. Or I can run a bottle of test e for 3+ weeks.The shorter esters are slightly cheaper per bottle, but more expensive per cycle.

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[rcoury33]

so i was told that because of the short esters its 20ml which is 20 pins around only a month cycle? is that right?

 

[rcoury33]

Correct about 40 days. Thats why its more cost efficient to run long esters. I can go through a bottle of test prop in like a week. Or I can run a bottle of test e for 3+ weeks.The shorter esters are slightly cheaper per bottle, but more expensive per cycle.

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ok so will i see any results for using it like 3 shots a week so like 6 weeks of it? or do i need to buy more?

 

[joeblow12345]

Id buy more so you could pin eod. It keeos blood levels more stable. Run it 8-10 weeks.

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[rcoury33]

ok. so i got an extra bottle of each 40ml test p / 40ml mast p. would you run 150mg EOD (approx. 26 pins worth) which would be about 7 1/2 weeks or 100mg EOD(40 pins worth) for about 11 1/2 weeks?

 

[joeblow12345]

Id go with the 11 1/2 weeks. Im not a fan of short cycles. I feel the longer ones give you more time to get quality gains.

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