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Is steroids the only thing that works?!?
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edgecrusher
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Vendetta said:
Yes, calories. To many people read into the supplement adds, and are taken by the hype. (Myself included.) They expect these supps to be magic. The only thing that is guranteed to give results are calories and hard training. Truth be known, those are all you need. Best of luck.
Vendetta said:
There are many positive experiences and posts with supps on this board. 1Test and 1AD are great choices, and overall, I had a pretty good experience with Ergopharm's 1AD.
From my standpoint, there are some supps that work. ProH's do carry many of the side effects that lesser dosages of gear carry, in addition, gains seem to be greater when using gear. I believe that for the money and risks involved, that gear use is a good choice. If you are concerned with legality issues, then proH's such as 1Test and 1AD are definitely the best supplement choice available. It is important to note that when using either, anti estrogens should be kept on hand, as well as something to stimulate endogenous test production at the end of your cycle.
Though it's obvious which side I stand on, I will not explicitly recommend steroids to anyone, as they are illegal. In addition, many first time users don't have the knowledge to use them in a safe, pratical, and sane manner. Be very sure what your getting into if you choose that route.
Depending on your lifting experience, it might be better to opt for something like creatine. Creatine is effective as well and the safest option of them all. Also, like edgecrusher said, calories are important. The only way to grow is to have a caloric intake higher than what your expending. Rest and your routine are important as well. Good luck bro.
Proper diet can make HUGE improvements in your training and gains.
HARD leg work was THE most important thing I ever did to improve my overall gains and not just for my legs. When I drop legs from my training then I find it almost impossible to make significant gains on arms, chest, back. Throw legs back into the mix and everything else likes to grow too. Tear your legs up and the rest of the body will follow.
Prohormones: I really dont think they are useless. The ones I have had success with were 1-AD, nor-andro (was great for fat loss, but not much else), and there was a 1-test/4-ad/19-nor product by "big cat" on bodybuilding.com. I had to use HUGE dosages, though, and the gains were okay (7- 10lbs in 8wks). All of them caused profound loss of sex drive for me and they were far from cheap. An example: I did 900mg of 1-AD each day for 10wks that ran me $600 or so. Thats a LOT of money for 9 or so pounds of lean body mass...
HARD leg work was THE most important thing I ever did to improve my overall gains and not just for my legs. When I drop legs from my training then I find it almost impossible to make significant gains on arms, chest, back. Throw legs back into the mix and everything else likes to grow too. Tear your legs up and the rest of the body will follow.
Prohormones: I really dont think they are useless. The ones I have had success with were 1-AD, nor-andro (was great for fat loss, but not much else), and there was a 1-test/4-ad/19-nor product by "big cat" on bodybuilding.com. I had to use HUGE dosages, though, and the gains were okay (7- 10lbs in 8wks). All of them caused profound loss of sex drive for me and they were far from cheap. An example: I did 900mg of 1-AD each day for 10wks that ran me $600 or so. Thats a LOT of money for 9 or so pounds of lean body mass...
Snarling Force
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I'm in my 4th week of a 1-AD and 4-AD 6 week stack cycle. My daily dosage is 600mg of each per day. I have gained 10 pounds and my strength, more specifically my bench, has gone through the ceiling. I've never been or felt stronger in my life. The only side effects I've had to deal with so far is the lack of sex drive from the 1-AD. The 4-AD is supposed to help with that but not with me. I think this stuff really works and is definitely worth trying out.
