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Is it still cool to be Italian

Was it ever?
News to me.
 
I think pride in anyone's heritage is good as long as it isn't over the top. I don't see a whole lot of Italian shit though anymore.
 
argent said:
I think pride in anyone's heritage is good as long as it isn't over the top. I don't see a whole lot of Italian shit though anymore.


I respectfully disagree. It's not like anyone chose their heritage, they were born into it. It's a random thing. And it's not like anyone can take credit for what their forefathers did, because they were not there and did not contribute.
 
The Nature Boy said:



I respectfully disagree. It's not like anyone chose their heritage, they were born into it. It's a random thing. And it's not like anyone can take credit for what their forefathers did, because they were not there and did not contribute.

true
 
Real Italians hate Italian-Americans ya know. Kind of sad.

VictusDeus è un cameriere che vuole crescere un baffi e finge di essere un italiano.

Paulie Walnuts è un brutto idiota grasso e corto con pidocchi infestò capelli pubici che hanno in nessun luogo andare perché Triedia è chiuso e lui fu proibito da élite perché ognuno l'odia.
 
I am from NJ and I am Italian

Doktor Bollix said:
Real Italians hate Italian-Americans ya know. Kind of sad.

VictusDeus è un cameriere che vuole crescere un baffi e finge di essere un italiano.

Paulie Walnuts è un brutto idiota grasso e corto con pidocchi infestò capelli pubici che hanno in nessun luogo andare perché Triedia è chiuso e lui fu proibito da élite perché ognuno l'odia.


What did you say
 
If you are Italian you should know what it means, no?

It's nothing all that bad. My Paulie Walnuts comment was bad though, but he can strike back in his fluent italian LOL.
 
If you want to be technically correct then I am Ital-Amer. My mom speaks non fluent italian but I have no reason to learn since I dont live in Italy.

Doktor Bollix said:
If you are Italian you should know what it means, no?

It's nothing all that bad. My Paulie Walnuts comment was bad though, but he can strike back in his fluent italian LOL.
 
aurelius said:


ever been to Italy?

Im mostly italian from my moms side of the family, my grandmother has been to italy on a few ocassions, she said its really nice.

Hehe she said If I never find a women here that will cook for me, shes gonna go to italy & bring me back a nice italian girl.;)
 
I am 100% Italian, and I cant stand these Americanzied Italians with their stupid lingo and the way they act, they watch way too many mafia movies, they are AMERICAN, and 90% of them havent even made a trip to the home country. These are the people that fit the stupid ass stereotypes that I hate.

Soprano's is a decent show..but most real Italians who have 1/2 a clue about their heritage, like myself, cant stand that show. It is the wanna be goombas and wanna be tuff guy guidos that love this show like its the word of the Lord.
 
1/4 Sicilian on my Dad's side So I have the family name.
My Dad told me stories about growing up in the 1920's, and being called Wop, etc. He said at that time, Italians were a looked on as lower class than other minorities in the US(Asian, Blacks)

Then we had the Mob issues's in the 30's -60's that made all Italian Americans look bad.

If one thing Italians have over other racial groups IMO it would be that they hold FAMILY above all else. Sometimes too high as is evident in the Mafia killings and rules..
Especially the Mother as Leader of the Home with Father laying the law down usually only when Mother agree's.

I am serious that I have been told the Wait time at a restaurant, . both Italian and not , given the name at gotten seated Immediately for some reason.
Ahead of lots of others sitting there looking like WTF?
 
I fucking hate minstrel show Italians too. They think being Italian is eating spaghetti and meatballs and walking around with their lats out quoting "The Godfather" all the time, like it's a cultural bible.
 
NY Muscle said:
I am 100% Italian, and I cant stand these Americanzied Italians with their stupid lingo and the way they act, they watch way too many mafia movies, they are AMERICAN, and 90% of them havent even made a trip to the home country. These are the people that fit the stupid ass stereotypes that I hate.

Soprano's is a decent show..but most real Italians who have 1/2 a clue about their heritage, like myself, cant stand that show. It is the wanna be goombas and wanna be tuff guy guidos that love this show like its the word of the Lord.

Where did you grow up, NY?

Also, I thought the mafia stuff was mostly Sicilian and they don´t really consider themselves Italian. Maybe I´m wrong.
 
aurelius said:


Where did you grow up, NY?

Also, I thought the mafia stuff was mostly Sicilian and they don´t really consider themselves Italian. Maybe I´m wrong.


Grew up in the Bronx.

Sicilian? Um maybe the Italians in the Godfather were...but it doesn't matter where you are from in Italy, there are many big organized crime Italian families allover the US, Sicilian/Italian/Neapolitan, etc etc

I frequent a restaurant in Arthur Ave. quite often, been going there since I was a kid, was my 1st time meeting a real mafia boss, the guy was a monster, my mom was like best friends with him while growing up, she once told me a story how 9 black guys jumped him and he bit one guys nose off and mangled the rest of them....his hand when he shook my hand, even till this day, was 2-3 times bigger than mine....like bear paws.

Anyway he isn’t Sicilian. But the sick part is, he was arrested not too long ago with, get this, 74 other family members...I find that fascinating (not in a good or bad way) how many people can be involved from the same "family" at one time.


Im not saying im proud of these facts, but it is reality, but like I said, too many wanna be's think they are mafioso and claim their "uncle" is in the mafia...meanwhile these kids are 1/2 Irish.
 
NY Muscle said:



Grew up in the Bronx.

Sicilian? Um maybe the Italians in the Godfather were...but it doesn't matter where you are from in Italy, there are many big organized crime Italian families allover the US, Sicilian/Italian/Neapolitan, etc etc

I frequent a restaurant in Arthur Ave. quite often, been going there since I was a kid, was my 1st time meeting a real mafia boss, the guy was a monster, my mom was like best friends with him while growing up, she once told me a story how 9 black guys jumped him and he bit one guys nose off and mangled the rest of them....his hand when he shook my hand, even till this day, was 2-3 times bigger than mine....like bear paws.

Anyway he isn’t Sicilian. But the sick part is, he was arrested not too long ago with, get this, 74 other family members...I find that fascinating (not in a good or bad way) how many people can be involved from the same "family" at one time.


Im not saying im proud of these facts, but it is reality, but like I said, too many wanna be's think they are mafioso and claim their "uncle" is in the mafia...meanwhile these kids are 1/2 Irish.

Theres nothing wrong with being half Irish.....:p
But im also half dutch so i am balanced....

b.A.
 
Doktor Bollix said:
Real Italians hate Italian-Americans ya know. Kind of sad.

VictusDeus è un cameriere che vuole crescere un baffi e finge di essere un italiano.

Paulie Walnuts è un brutto idiota grasso e corto con pidocchi infestò capelli pubici che hanno in nessun luogo andare perché Triedia è chiuso e lui fu proibito da élite perché ognuno l'odia.

Chiuda la scopata in su. Triedia è ora in su ed è indietro e riempito di idiots come voi. Se realmente desiderate ottenermeli sopra con, sto andando colza il vostro asshole e sparare il mio carico giù i vostri nostrails e rendervi lo sputo verso l'esterno cum. Quando state elemosinando la vostra vita cara, cranio-li scopo con il mio penis e colza la vostra pancia dell'ombelico con il mio rubinetto e li lascio in una morte lenta e dolorosa. Suona buon? Capisca?
 
In the old days, and probably still today, if you called a Sicilian
Italian, it was an offense to them.
Sicily was the Bed of the Organized Families in Italy and the US.

It pretty much spread from there as I understand the history.

bepo
 
Y_Lifter said:
In the old days, and probably still today, if you called a Sicilian
Italian, it was an offense to them.
Sicily was the Bed of the Organized Families in Italy and the US.

It pretty much spread from there as I understand the history.

bepo

Vaffunculo, YLifter
 
Y_Lifter said:
In the old days, and probably still today, if you called a Sicilian
Italian, it was an offense to them.
Sicily was the Bed of the Organized Families in Italy and the US.

It pretty much spread from there as I understand the history.

bepo


Actually...

If you called an Italian a Sicilian, that was/is offensive....

Many people consider Sicilians NI***RS, but hey I'm 1/4 Sicilian and the rest from Northern Italy.

If you are Italian, you are Italian thats it...I dont know why they would get offended IMHO.
 
Originally posted by NY Muscle
Actually...

If you called an Italian a Sicilian, that was/is offensive....

Many people consider Sicilians NI***RS, but hey I'm 1/4 Sicilian and the rest from Northern Italy.

If you are Italian, you are Italian thats it...I dont know why they would get offended IMHO.

Hence my earlier post about my 1/2 Sicilian Dad being thought of as lower class than Blacks or Asians back in the 30's.
Even worse the other half was Cherokee Indian.

I imagine Sicilians did not like being referred to as such and turned it around to be an insult to be referred to as Italian.

Kinda like Taiwanese being referred to as being Chinese
 
Mmmmm Italian Men- Oh how I love them. I gotta visit Italy soon!!!!!
 
NY Muscle said:



Actually...

If you called an Italian a Sicilian, that was/is offensive....

Many people consider Sicilians NI***RS, but hey I'm 1/4 Sicilian and the rest from Northern Italy.

If you are Italian, you are Italian thats it...I dont know why they would get offended IMHO.

Wait a second. I´ve been around Italy twice and I know that if you are Italian that doesn´t necessarily mean you are "Italian thats it." Well, not to them.
 
aurelius said:


Wait a second. I´ve been around Italy twice and I know that if you are Italian that doesn´t necessarily mean you are "Italian thats it." Well, not to them.

I know...the old country still has OLD VALUES...they refuse to get away from that way of thinking. they dont know any better...that is why when Italians come to the US they see things much differenty and then Italians and/or Italian Americans in the US, realize everything isnt black and white.
 
aurelius said:


Wait a second. I´ve been around Italy twice and I know that if you are Italian that doesn´t necessarily mean you are "Italian thats it." Well, not to them.

Yeah I have a couple of Italian friends that were over here for fighter pilot school and they were telling me how Northern Italians esp. those from Milan do not like Italians that live below Florence. I also have a friend from Naples and he told me that some Italians view him as dirty etc. just because of where he lives.
 
BronzedGoddess said:


Yeah I have a couple of Italian friends that were over here for fighter pilot school and they were telling me how Northern Italians esp. those from Milan do not like Italians that live below Florence. I also have a friend from Naples and he told me that some Italians view him as dirty etc. just because of where he lives.

Thats like people from Chappaqua, NY not liking people from Harlem...but the bottom line is..they are still New Yorkers..
 
NY Muscle said:


I know...the old country still has OLD VALUES...they refuse to get away from that way of thinking. they dont know any better...that is why when Italians come to the US they see things much differenty and then Italians and/or Italian Americans in the US, realize everything isnt black and white.

HA HA!! They love to point! You dirty southern people! Same here in Spain. (except the southern people ARE dirty)
 
Mafia doesn´t have much strenght anymore... but it still exists, and its not not just a sicilian problem. Napoli´s mafia is very powerfull, and the calabrese mafia also... Anyways Italy isn´t the country it used to be... they aren´t as conservative as you guys would think, for example the average spanish or portuguese is much more conservative than the average italian. Plus Italy is the world´s fashion "adviser"... they will sometimes dress like fools just to point themselves out. I´ve been there in the last week, i know how it works. Some guys in italy take care of their skins, teeth and hair more than the average american, german or spanish woman... so they aren´t "that" macho nowdays!!!
And Italy, although that´s changing, is still divided is 3 parts: from firenze north, one of the richest regions in Europe, specially milano... Between Firenze and Naples, and finally south of naples, including Sicilia...
But anywhere in europe, at least in europe, if you´re italian, just for being italian, you´ll have more chances with the girls... but for the most part italian people are very friendly and nice people to meet, although sometimes they can sound "too" friendly and you may ask yourself: "What does this guy want?" or you may be fooled by the chicks: just because they´re all smiles to you and tap you in the shoulders it doesnt mean that you´ll have any chances of getting laid you them...
 
I am Italian-American grew up in Staten Island, NY. I love the culture, the food that I grew up with and would not trade it for anything.

When I go back to N.Y and hear all the goomba wanna bees talking I get really embarrased about it and wish they would wake up.

I think that Mederterranian(sp) cultures in general are pretty cool.
 
Italians are famous for:

1. Looseing in WWII.

2. Running like dirty bitchs instead of fighting.

Yeah sure its is cool to be Italian.

Especially if Italian = ASS-HOLE.

ROFL

Muscular Warrior
 
MuscularWarrier said:
Italians are famous for:

1. Looseing in WWII.

2. Running like dirty bitchs instead of fighting.

Yeah sure its is cool to be Italian.

Especially if Italian = ASS-HOLE.

ROFL

Muscular Warrior


yeah and your champ
 
NY Muscle said:


Thats like people from Chappaqua, NY not liking people from Harlem...but the bottom line is..they are still New Yorkers..

you talking to me bro, come on I use to love e233, westchester ave., spanish harlem....
 
MuscularWarrier said:
Italians are famous for:

1. Looseing in WWII.

2. Running like dirty bitchs instead of fighting.

Yeah sure its is cool to be Italian.

Especially if Italian = ASS-HOLE.

ROFL

Muscular Warrior

Your humor leaves much to be desired...


SUCKA!!!!!
 
MuscularWarrier said:
I was just trying to be humros bro no need to get all agintated. Ps my advise is to change your sig line before I report you to the mods.


I always wonder which mod you are?
 
MP5 said:
My dad's side of the family is Italian, my mom's is German. I got the best of both worlds.:D

Same here, only my mom's side is Italian and my dads side is german.
 
Puerto Ricans like me took over ;) jk. I love Italian people. But some of them are racist as fuck...but i guess that could go with any race huh.
 
lets see...im italian! i love being italian, lots of my relatives are sicilian...but the other half is italian...either way...its awesome.. the holidays are fun, (thank god thats bulking time, lol)

plus lets dont forget....we are so of the best loves in the world!....i am also a bit of spainish....and latin lovers no matter what, are good to go!
 
kronkette said:


yep...i made a 10 egg white one with feta this morning!:p thats heaven on a plate!

With a little bit of Neuman's Own balsamic vinagrette.......oh yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah.............
 
I do not understand you fuckers that throw away the yolks... life is too short to eat eggwhite only omlettes...


(Feta cheese is good with anything.. try it on a rare NY Strip)
 
Which ever ignorant fuck gave me the negative karma with, "Peurto Rican ass-hole" can just take your cannolies and shove them up your ass. At least have the balls to sign your karma "ass-hole"
 
PURE EXTRACT said:


So when are you inviting me for diner?

hehehehe, hmmmmm, im thinking i will get spatts to make the lasagna and i will simply serve it nude, with olives to pick off certain parts of my body....hahahaha :lmao:damn that sounds like a penthouse story if i have ever heard one!
 
"Please desist the incessant sucking up to kronette and all ladies on elite for a glimpse hope of getting some. The only thing you will get is your own blisters on your chafed penis from jacking off every time when kronette posts. - Dballer"

Bro...honestly...look at me...I don't need to be jackin' off to ANYTHING on the net. I'm not conceited but I can pull just about any girl I see
 
Another one: "ricans are scum...stay on your own damn island!!!" Being that we are the only Spanish speaking people that ARE BORN US CITIZENS, I think I'll stay wherever the fuck I want. At least Dballer has the ballz the sign his shit...though I think he took what I said the wrong way, either way it doesn't really matter what any of you say. PUERTO RICANS ARE HERE TO STAY BIIIIOTCH LOL
 
pauly said:


With a little bit of Neuman's Own balsamic vinagrette.......oh yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah.............

Hey Pauly, I have the wife (Jewish) making some kick-ass Greek meals. She made her first one last week (Moussaka) and damn, it was just like my mom makes. God I love my wife!!!! Not only is she an awesome wife, cooks good, and will now be the mother of our first child in March.!!!! Love Ya Jen
 
PURE EXTRACT said:
"Please desist the incessant sucking up to kronette and all ladies on elite for a glimpse hope of getting some. The only thing you will get is your own blisters on your chafed penis from jacking off every time when kronette posts. - Dballer"

damn dballer....i thought you liked to jack off to my pictures...well shit...there goes that fantasy....:lmao:
 
What's up with him Kronk?? Did you take what I said as a suggestion for us to hook up? lol Dballer is usually cool, don't know what happened today. Bro why was your karma grey anyway??
 
dimitrios said:


Hey Pauly, I have the wife (Jewish) making some kick-ass Greek meals. She made her first one last week (Moussaka) and damn, it was just like my mom makes. God I love my wife!!!! Not only is she an awesome wife, cooks good, and will now be the mother of our first child in March.!!!! Love Ya Jen

Congrats bro!!!! I can't wait to get married. I just haven't decided who the lucky one is going to be yet ;) lol I hope whoever I marry knows how to cook a great meal. I don't want to be the one always doing the cooking ya know
 
dimitrios said:


Hey Pauly, I have the wife (Jewish) making some kick-ass Greek meals. She made her first one last week (Moussaka) and damn, it was just like my mom makes. God I love my wife!!!! Not only is she an awesome wife, cooks good, and will now be the mother of our first child in March.!!!! Love Ya Jen

Congratulations on breaking her in, and on the child.....you sound extremely blessed. O theos na se feelii.
 
Approvazione, la gente. Chiuda prego la scopata in su e sono tired di questo filetto superfluo. Chi dà una scopata di volo se siete un siciliano o italiano? Lascilo dire qualcosa alla gente che può realmente leggere l'italiano. Sono ammalato alla morte di determinata gente qui. Amerei torturare lentamente l'alta intensità perché lo conosco sono un bambino crying del geninue e un colpo caldo. Quello è esso.
 
KHMER ROGUE said:
Approvazione, la gente. Chiuda prego la scopata in su e sono tired di questo filetto superfluo. Chi dà una scopata di volo se siete un siciliano o italiano? Lascilo dire qualcosa alla gente che può realmente leggere l'italiano. Sono ammalato alla morte di determinata gente qui. Amerei torturare lentamente l'alta intensità perché lo conosco sono un bambino crying del geninue e un colpo caldo. Quello è esso.

yeah what he said
 
dimitrios said:


Hey Pauly, I have the wife (Jewish) making some kick-ass Greek meals. She made her first one last week (Moussaka) and damn, it was just like my mom makes. God I love my wife!!!! Not only is she an awesome wife, cooks good, and will now be the mother of our first child in March.!!!! Love Ya Jen

Jesus Bro, you won lotto. Most Greek girls can't even cook Moussaka. What about Dolmades? Does your wife have any Greek Orthodox sisters:D
 
spatts said:
I just don't get it. You all want a wife that will be good to you, cook for you, raise awesome kids with you, please you at every chance...and I managed to marry the one guy in the world that would prefer I be and Elitist Lawyer's Wife and spend my days at Bloomingdales.

:lmao:

Oh I forgot to tell you besides all the great things she does, she is also a Doctor. I guess I should be the one at Bloomindales?? LOL
 
spatts said:
Nah, I don't want to go back. At least not right now. I ended up getting an accouting degree and used that to support us through law school. Now I'm content to be a power lifter and mom. :)

Cool, nothing better then a power lifting mom. :beer:
 
spatts said:
Nah, I don't want to go back. At least not right now. I ended up getting an accouting degree and used that to support us through law school. Now I'm content to be a power lifter and mom. :)

i went to school to be a CMT to support us through kronks law school, now i am just a bodybuilder and a mom.....gee wiz...if i wasnt a smurf, we would be twins...:lmao:
 
PURE EXTRACT said:
"Please desist the incessant sucking up to kronette and all ladies on elite for a glimpse hope of getting some. The only thing you will get is your own blisters on your chafed penis from jacking off every time when kronette posts. - Dballer"

Bro...honestly...look at me...I don't need to be jackin' off to ANYTHING on the net. I'm not conceited but I can pull just about any girl I see

THAT WAS NOT ME!!!

here is some good karma.. I will sign it.. to my bannana eating peurto rican friend...

WTF!!!
 
PURE EXTRACT said:
Another one: "ricans are scum...stay on your own damn island!!!" Being that we are the only Spanish speaking people that ARE BORN US CITIZENS, I think I'll stay wherever the fuck I want. At least Dballer has the ballz the sign his shit...though I think he took what I said the wrong way, either way it doesn't really matter what any of you say. PUERTO RICANS ARE HERE TO STAY BIIIIOTCH LOL

that was not me dude!!!!
 
PURE EXTRACT said:
Another one: "ricans are scum...stay on your own damn island!!!" Being that we are the only Spanish speaking people that ARE BORN US CITIZENS, I think I'll stay wherever the fuck I want. At least Dballer has the ballz the sign his shit...though I think he took what I said the wrong way, either way it doesn't really matter what any of you say. PUERTO RICANS ARE HERE TO STAY BIIIIOTCH LOL

Where were you born and where did you grow up?
 
dballer said:


that was not me dude!!!!

We have fucking dumb ass mother fuckers playing high school games and shit. Sorry about that Dballer. I didn't think you would do something that fucking stupid, my bad. I should have known better.
 
aurelius said:


Where were you born and where did you grow up?

I was born in Bayamon, Puerto Rico. Lived there for about 7 years, then came over to Yonkers, NY. Lived there til I was about 11, moved to NJ, then Colorado for 2 years, now back to NJ. After I get my masters I plan on getting my ass back to the mid-west somewhere.
 
Sí, claro, hablo y escribo castellano casí tan bien como el portugués, tio!!! Nuestros idiomas son muy similares... pero bueno, si los escuchas te pueden parecer bastante distintos, ya que nuestra pronunciación es muy cerrada. Nadie fuera de Portugal consiegue hablar el portugués... estoy exagerando, pero no es tan facil como aprender castellano...
 
The Varnsen said:
Sí, claro, hablo y escribo castellano casí tan bien como el portugués, tio!!! Nuestros idiomas son muy similares... pero bueno, si los escuchas te pueden parecer bastante distintos, ya que nuestra pronunciación es muy cerrada. Nadie fuera de Portugal consiegue hablar el portugués... estoy exagerando, pero no es tan facil como aprender castellano...

que no es tan facil para aprender? Eso dudo mucho, pero no lo sé. Fui para Lisboa hace un par de meses y, la verdad, me parece ruso mas que nada.
 
Aurelius: Bueno, estoy cierto que támpoco entiendes el catalán, verdad? La pronunciación del catalán es muchissimo más parecida con la del portugués que con la del castellano... los portugueses támpoco tienen muchas dificuldades para aprender el catalán, aunque algunas partes de su gramatica sean un poco raras...
Si quieres yo ahora escribo en portugués y verás que lo entiendes... hablado, si, es bastante diferente...
Puede ser que en Lisboa estubieste escuchando rusos o ucranianos, ehehe, verdad que ahora hay muchos muchos en Portugal, trabajando en la construcción y en otras areas de bajos salarios...
 
The Varnsen said:
Aurelius: Bueno, estoy cierto que támpoco entiendes el catalán, verdad? La pronunciación del catalán es muchissimo más parecida con la del portugués que con la del castellano... los portugueses támpoco tienen muchas dificuldades para aprender el catalán, aunque algunas partes de su gramatica sean un poco raras...
Si quieres yo ahora escribo en portugués y verás que lo entiendes... hablado, si, es bastante diferente...
Puede ser que en Lisboa estubieste escuchando rusos o ucranianos, ehehe, verdad que ahora hay muchos muchos en Portugal, trabajando en la construcción y en otras areas de bajos salarios...

No. Seguro que fueron portugueses. Solo lo que opino yo. Entiendo bastante el catalá, siempre que no me preguntes a decir nada! Sí, accento mas parecido al portugues. Adelante, escribeme algo.
 
Que é que queres que eu escreva? Não sei, hoje sinto-me com pouca imaginação, deve ser do calor... bem, agora dou conta que já estou a escrever algo, ehehe... Percebes alguma coisa, ou nem por isso? Na verdade, até já estava com saudades de escrever em português, ultimamente só escrevo em espanhol ou inglês...

Filipe
 
The Varnsen said:
Que é que queres que eu escreva? Não sei, hoje sinto-me com pouca imaginação, deve ser do calor... bem, agora dou conta que já estou a escrever algo, ehehe... Percebes alguma coisa, ou nem por isso? Na verdade, até já estava com saudades de escrever em português, ultimamente só escrevo em espanhol ou inglês...

Filipe

você soube que gostam de ter o sexo anal? Dobre sobre e deixe-os vai se foder no burro!
 
The Varnsen said:
Que é que queres que eu escreva? Não sei, hoje sinto-me com pouca imaginação, deve ser do calor... bem, agora dou conta que já estou a escrever algo, ehehe... Percebes alguma coisa, ou nem por isso? Na verdade, até já estava com saudades de escrever em português, ultimamente só escrevo em espanhol ou inglês...

Filipe

I don´t write much in english now. (proper writing) Had to write an essay the other day and had real problems at first.
 
Quienquiera me envió un mal karma, me dejó dice cuáles usted es. ¡Usted no es nada sino un gatito de mierda! ¿No puede usted incluso firmar su nombre con ese mal karma? Podría decir porque era un karma y era solamente un punto que me trajo abajo. ¡Un más vete a la mierda de la cosa...!
 
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