Is Cabaser necessary for oral tren?

[Spades24]

I know cabaser is highly recommended for injectable tren cycles, which usually last a significant amount of weeks.

Oral tren is only to be taken for 3-4 weeks though, and I'm not sure if there's the same risk for progesterone induced gyno?

I've heard that P5P and Chaste Berry Vitex Extract will accomplish the same goal as cabaser?

Thoughts?

 

[Stryker1992]

I know cabaser is highly recommended for injectable tren cycles, which usually last a significant amount of weeks.

Oral tren is only to be taken for 3-4 weeks though, and I'm not sure if there's the same risk for progesterone induced gyno?

I've heard that P5P and Chaste Berry Vitex Extract will accomplish the same goal as cabaser?

Thoughts?

I would actually suggest taking Forma Stanzol from mrsupplements.com

This will assist with all the issues that could result from aromatisation from tren. What are you using to support recovery and HTPA while on?

I would suggest froma as well as HCGenerate...

 

[Spades24]

I'm taking hcg 500iu a week all cycle up until PCT. I'm using forma stanzol during PCT.

Cycle looks like this:

Test E 500mg a week, weeks 1-12

Beastdrol 30mg ED weeks 1-4

Oral Tren 500mcg ED weeks 9-12

Aromasin 12.5mg EOD weeks 1-12

hcg 500iu a week, weeks 1-14

PCT clomid 100/50/50/50/25, nolva 40/20/20/20, forma stanzol 10 pumps a day, weeks 14-19


Considering taking P5P and chaste berry vitex extract during the last 4 weeks of cycle when I run oral tren to prevent progresterone induced gyno, but I don't know if it's necessary?

 

[Stryker1992]

I am not a fan of clomid or nolva bro....hcg is good. Forma is good. HCGenerate is good.

A phyto test for after cycle would be a bonus. Phyto serms 347 is awesome...forma boosts test natty as well though.

 

[Spades24]

Jesus christ cant get any real advice here, its like walking into a need2's marketing office.

My original question, which ive asked twice now and has nothing to do with PCT or need2's products, has not been answered.

 

[ALIN]

I know cabaser is highly recommended for injectable tren cycles, which usually last a significant amount of weeks.

Oral tren is only to be taken for 3-4 weeks though, and I'm not sure if there's the same risk for progesterone induced gyno?

I've heard that P5P and Chaste Berry Vitex Extract will accomplish the same goal as cabaser?

Thoughts?

Not everyone is sensitive to the progesterone type side effect but its better to
use cuation than to be sorry.

 

[Spades24]

Not everyone is sensitive to the progesterone type side effect but its better to
use cuation than to be sorry.

Thank you but my question is whether P5P and the tree extract I listed is an acceptable subsitute? I have been told that cabaser carries risk of heart complications, and that the other products I listed reduce prolactin without the heart risks.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

chasteberry and p5p actually work real well on progesterone levels. It is always good to have caber on hand though. You never know when you might need it.

But clomid and nolva is old news. Test out GnRh, aka Trip. No need for a SERM with GnRh. They sell at purchase peps.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Thank you but my question is whether P5P and the tree extract I listed is an acceptable subsitute? I have been told that cabaser carries risk of heart complications, and that the other products I listed reduce prolactin without the heart risks.

Wrong, caber used e3d at .5 mg or less will not cause heart valve problems. The study was done on people using caber daily, which you should not be doing.

 

[Spades24]

chasteberry and p5p actually work real well on progesterone levels. It is always good to have caber on hand though. You never know when you might need it.

But clomid and nolva is old news. Test out GnRh, aka Trip. No need for a SERM with GnRh. They sell at purchase peps.

Let me point out once again that this is for oral tren being ran the last 3-4 weeks of my test cycle. Is progresterone control necessary/recommended for a 3 week oral tren run???

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Nobody could possibly know that.
What dont you get when I say it is good to have on hand???
Everyone is differnt. Me, I would personally have some on hand.

 

[Stryker1992]

Jesus christ cant get any real advice here, its like walking into a need2's marketing office.

My original question, which ive asked twice now and has nothing to do with PCT or need2's products, has not been answered.

Wow...really bro. I was giving you my honest opinion. I have been using for 20 years and have used everything. My advice is based on pure experience and weeding through mistakes. You keep asking about stuff that seems to lack any support other than "I have heard." Well I told you about what I know. It is your body...feel free to experiment.

Have a nice day....

 

[Stryker1992]

Methyltrienolone is a progestin, meaning that it has the ability to bind to receptors of the female sex hormone progesterone. Also, like other 19-nor compounds Oral Tren increases prolactin levels. Side effects related to these reactions can include breast growth and lactation. Oral Tren also has the ability to help enhance any estrogenic side effects that may results from aromatizing drugs that the user is administering concurrently. This is obviously something to take into consideration when deciding what ancillaries to use during a cycle that includes metribolone. To prevent side effects as they relate to increased prolactin levels a user can use several compounds including bromocriptine, vitamin b6, and/or cabergoline. Letrozole can also be used to lower progesterone levels.

 

[UA_Iron]

Doubt you'll need it bro. If you get sides just drop the shit and it should go away instantly - its got a short half life. Prami is a terrible choice too, the sides of that stuff are worse than the tren sides in my opinion.

500mcg/day isn't super high for oral tren - thats because most places have it under dosed or its not even oral tren.

Shit is toxic, I've run it before, didn't really seem like regular tren at all. But it did something.

Personally I'd go with a healthy dose of halo, 50mg/day if you want to look shredded/grainy beyond belief. Run it weeks 10-14 while the testosterone esters clear before you start PCT.

 

[Spades24]

Methyltrienolone is a progestin, meaning that it has the ability to bind to receptors of the female sex hormone progesterone. Also, like other 19-nor compounds Oral Tren increases prolactin levels. Side effects related to these reactions can include breast growth and lactation. Oral Tren also has the ability to help enhance any estrogenic side effects that may results from aromatizing drugs that the user is administering concurrently. This is obviously something to take into consideration when deciding what ancillaries to use during a cycle that includes metribolone. To prevent side effects as they relate to increased prolactin levels a user can use several compounds including bromocriptine, vitamin b6, and/or cabergoline. Letrozole can also be used to lower progesterone levels.

Thank you, looks like I'll use that P5P and vitex to be safe.

Doubt you'll need it bro. If you get sides just drop the shit and it should go away instantly - its got a short half life. Prami is a terrible choice too, the sides of that stuff are worse than the tren sides in my opinion.

500mcg/day isn't super high for oral tren - thats because most places have it under dosed or its not even oral tren.

Shit is toxic, I've run it before, didn't really seem like regular tren at all. But it did something.

Personally I'd go with a healthy dose of halo, 50mg/day if you want to look shredded/grainy beyond belief. Run it weeks 10-14 while the testosterone esters clear before you start PCT.

Well I had no intentions of running oral tren, I'm only doing it because my supplier accidentally included it in my order. You think I should run it beyond the test? I was gonna stop taking it on the day of my last pin? Also, I'm running it at the end of my bulk cycle, so I don't know exactly how shredded I'll get in 3-4 weeks.

 

[Stryker1992]

Okay bro...good luck and keep us posted....

 

[needtogetaas]

n2guard or a damn good liver support is a must that is for sure.

 

[Stryker1992]

n2guard or a damn good liver support is a must that is for sure.

Well..I was sort of trying to say such things but then he got upset because I was talking about your stuff too much...

Sorry if I talk about legal products that work...it has become a must for me given certain factors in my life.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Well..I was sort of trying to say such things but then he got upset because I was talking about your stuff too much...

Sorry if I talk about legal products that work...it has become a must for me given certain factors in my life.

He right.

It is okay to push your own products when they are the shit.. And not shit..

 

[UA_Iron]

Thank you, looks like I'll use that P5P and vitex to be safe.



Well I had no intentions of running oral tren, I'm only doing it because my supplier accidentally included it in my order. You think I should run it beyond the test? I was gonna stop taking it on the day of my last pin? Also, I'm running it at the end of my bulk cycle, so I don't know exactly how shredded I'll get in 3-4 weeks.

keep it with the test, dont run it past the testosterone like I had said to do with the halo. Progestins should always be run side by side with test in my opinion.

My suggestion was for some added cuts for the sluts at the end of the cycle, long esters clear, water retention drops before you start PCT

 

[mxrider47]

Jesus christ cant get any real advice here, its like walking into a need2's marketing office.

My original question, which ive asked twice now and has nothing to do with PCT or need2's products, has not been answered.

sorry to bump an ancient thread but this is the best shit Ive read on this sight to date. I thought I was the only one who sees it