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Ironmind 1993 Dimas SNatch and cleans clip

Wow. That's the most impressive stuff I've seen yet. Who is he? 375 power clean like nothing. How much is 200 kilos? That looked like a joke.
Thanks for putting up all these clips.

Can you check the questions in that calf thread?
 
200kg = 440lbs multiple by 2.2 :)

he probbaly frontquats around 600lbs

Thats Pyrros Dimas, Greek weighlifter in the 85kg class
 
I can't remember if I saw it on one of the training hall clips or if a friend of mine showed me something he recorded but pretty sure I saw him power clean something like 190 or 195kg (418 or 429Lbs.) Seeing this clip, I'm pretty sure of what I saw now. It's kind of hard to see on the clip but look at the size his quads. ... massive for a 180Lbs guy. Dimas is an incredibly powerful dude and seeing that makes me want to get back to the gym tomorrow :)
 
I spoke with Dimas in '95 at the Superheavy Invitational in Atlanta. At that time he was cleaning 220, front squatting 270 and back squatting 320. He's awesome.
 
the part where he finishes a lift and walks the loaded barbell back to the rack balancing it on his shoulders... insane!!! how tall is he?
 
That was phukking sick.

The speed and snap in his jerk.... there's just no way of seeing him move. Bar on shoulders *BAM* Bar overhead.

And doubling 400+ on front squats with a vertically aligned back... forget it.


Definately need to pick up some vids from Ironmind and some coaching tips re: snatch and jerks.

Great vid CoolColJ.
 
CoolColJ said:
I think he's about 5'7" to 5'8"

he has won 3 gold medals at the Olympics
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Dimas is the man. My girlfriend is barely 5'1"...maybe...and she said that he isn't much taller than she is though.

Dimas...everything he touches turns to gold:)

B True
 
well he is 5'8" :)

Pyrros Dimas
GRESport: Weightlifting
Event: 85kg (187 lbs)
Born: October 13, 1971
Birthplace: Chimarra, Albania
Residence: Greece
Height: 5-foot-8
Weight: 187 lbs.

Breaking the tie
Pyrros Dimas entered the 1992 Barcelona Games as a relative unknown. But after one of the closest weightlifting competitions in history, he would exit as an Olympic champion. After clearing 167.5 kilograms (369.25 pounds) in the snatch, Dimas lifted 202.5kg (446.25 lbs) in the clean and jerk to reach a total of 370kg (815.5 lbs). That total would be matched by 1991 world champion Ibragim Samadov of the Unified Team and Krzysztof Siemion of Poland. Ties are typically broken by awarding the decision to the lifter who weighs the least, but Dimas and Siemion weighed exactly the same (five grams less than Samadov). Dimas was crowned champion because he had reached the total first.

Decade dominance
The surprising triumph in Barcelona began a streak of success for Dimas that continued throughout the 1990s. After claiming the 1993 and 1995 world titles, he won his second consecutive Olympic gold medal at the 1996 Atlanta Games. In 1998, after a one-year hiatus from major competition, Dimas recaptured the world title by lifting a total of 387.5kg (854.25 lbs). He also won the European Championships in 1998 and finished second at the 1999 World Championships.


Changing countries
Born in Albania, Dimas competed as Pirro Ohima until 1990. At that year's European Championships, he approached the president of Greece’s weightlifting federation and asked about moving to Greece. Dimas, whose grandparents were Greek, emigrated later that year. After winning the gold medal at the 1992 Olympics, he shouted, “For Greece!” Dimas hopes to compete at the Games through 2004, when Athens, in his adopted homeland of Greece, plays host.
 
He gets Army pay from Greece...but isn't really in the Army. Pretty cool huh?

He is like a God there and travels around a lot and EVERYONE loves him.

B True
 
Dimas is about 5'-7" to 5'-8" and Khakisvillis is about 5'-6". I stood between them in Atlanta for the closing ceremonies in '95.
Two real powerhouses.
 
Ivan Chakarov of Bulgaria from the same 1993 Ironmind tape

This guy is deceptive, he's lanky, pretty tall I guess, but strong as hell for a under 91kg lifter! not sure on his exact bodyweight but it's under 200lbs!
Looks lean

He powersnatches 130kg 286lbs and 150kg 330lbs deeper, plus a 160kg squatsnatch. Then you see how flexible he is when he warms up for the Cleans and does a close Jerk grip overhead squat!!!!
Does a 160kg 352lb Powerclean and powerjerk, and then a sorta dive down 180kg 396lb powerclean and jerk!
Then he fullsquats 265kg 583lbs on his 4th set for a double at the end of this session RAW! He actually does 270kg for a double in this video, but not in this clip
Triple bodyweight....Yikes! :alien:

Notice the Bulgarian style of lifting, jumping backwards :)
Also that he pulls the bar around his knees, supposed to be bad, but he gets the weights up...

Right click on link and save - about 6.5 megs
http://www.members.optushome.com.au/coolco...93_Chakarov.wmv

I'll post another clip of Kaki latter from the same video of him doing squat jerk, man I've yet to see anything smoother and more precise - like butter - yet he was using close to 400lbs and only dips 2-3 inches....

awesome, awesome awesome!!!!

kick ass :)
 
Whoa. His form didn't look so great, but that's some ridiculous weight. Power cleaning 400 without that much effort and squatting 500 something. Damn.

Do they ever dump the bar on back squats? I haven't really seen one get stuck at the bottom before with just squat stands.
 
I thought his form was good myself, just that the bar swings forward around the knee when he lifts off, becuase he starts the bar closer to his body.

Oly lifters always lift within themselves on assitant lifts like squats, so they never actually fail on them on purpose. They sometimes dump them when they can't be bothered re-racking it.
They just throw it off the back and jump forwards
 
every lifter has their own style, at this level no one has "bad form" :)
All Bulgarians jump backwards

they don't, if you get stuck at the bottom them your using a weight that's way too heavy

I have seen them dump front squats at the bottom, or middle, but not a back squat. Its easier to do that with olys squats since your upright. You just jerk it off and jump forward
 
delldell2 said:
Whoa. His form didn't look so great, but that's some ridiculous weight. Power cleaning 400 without that much effort and squatting 500 something. Damn.
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I do know what you mean by saying his form didn't look that great. It appears he has an elbow extension problem. This is okay, from a competition standpoint, as long as you show the referees and jury before you start lifting. The jumping back thing, as CCJ mentioned, is common amongst Bulgarian lifters. I certainly wouldn't teach anyone that and would try my best to train it out of the lifter if he/she were starting out. You can't complain about the results of the Bulgarians though, they always seem to get the job done.
 
I recommend the 1995 two tape set, Polish 2001, Bulgarian 1998, and 1993 tapes in that order. Well that's all I have here :)
But for the info shown and value, that's the order I would recommend them in.

I haven't seen all the others though - 1995 2 tape set has lots of variety as posted before with the Chinese kids etc
Polish 2001 is slower but most like a proper training session posted short snippet before - only 3 different lifters, but packed with visual info,
1998 Bulgarian - mostly huge lifts like only the Bulgarians know how in their own training hall,
1993 tape is pre World Championship mainteniance lifting as shown in the clips here - I don't like the venue or vibe, but great lifters shown.
 
Thanks again CCJ for taking the time to edit those and put them on line. It does make for interesting discussions :)
 
You just don't comprehend how strong and explosive these guys are until you see them lifting in motion, and try the lifts yourself :)

I have deadlifted 405lbs before and it's a heavy load, I can't possibly acclerate it, but these guys can...crazy!

Anyway I want to post a clip of Kaki later on, just wanted to show how precise this guy is with 400+lbs, he's not explosive like these other guys here in the way he lifts. But everything is so super smooth and buttery, no wasted motion or needless shake. There is plenty of speed and power there, but he's doing it so effortlessly that it looks like he's lifting with just the bare bar.
 
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BTW I put the Dimas clip (first one in this thread) back online, grab it while you can :)

right click on it and save it as usual...
 
CoolColJ said:
Kakiachvili is smooth - squat jerk is effortless with 190kg 428lbs!
No one does it better. One of the few in the world that does a squat jerk

Another Greek lifter who doesn't go up on his toes :D

right click and save!
http://www.members.optushome.com.au/blitzf...anSquatJerk.wmv
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Kakiachvili's clean is just about perfect. It reminds me of Nicu Vlad, especially the not going up on toes. There was a lot of controversy in the U.S. when Dragomir became our national coach. We had some coaches that insisted that you needed to get up on your toes and others that insisted you shouldn't (included Dragomir.) Of course each side had plenty of examples so I concluded, it just didn't matter, which ever way works better for the athlete.
 
CoolColJ said:
Kakiachvili is smooth - squat jerk is effortless with 190kg 428lbs!
No one does it better. One of the few in the world that does a squat jerk

Another Greek lifter who doesn't go up on his toes :D

right click and save!
http://www.members.optushome.com.au/blitzf...anSquatJerk.wmv
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THANKS A TON MAN...ONCE AGAIN!!!

I really like how this guy does these. I am beginning to think that when I drop under the bar I am dropping too low. I was doing 250 for reps in training in St. Louis and I was dropping so low that the bar was bouncing...and throwing me off balance really bad.

Any chance I was dropping low? How would you change your technique if you were doing reps (7-15 reps)?

Thanks

B True
 
I think for high reps it would be harder to go low to catch the bar,than it would to power clean it.I would think that if you are going that far under the bar,that you are probably going lower than you need to with that weight,but it is probably good to get used to going that low,so that you can catch heavier weights,without having to pull them so high
 
b fold the truth said:


I am beginning to think that when I drop under the bar I am dropping too low. I was doing 250 for reps in training in St. Louis and I was dropping so low that the bar was bouncing...and throwing me off balance really bad.

Any chance I was dropping low? How would you change your technique if you were doing reps (7-15 reps)?

B True
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It sounds like the bar is "crashing down" on you. This happens when, just as you said, you drop too low for how high you pulled the bar. Ideally, in both the snatch and clean, you should catch the bar when its vertical velocity is 0. Try catching the weight in a half squat and ride it down to a full squat for those weights in between a power clean and full clean. Sounds like you're pretty strong to be pulling 250 that high. A good problem to have to work on :)
 
I think he means the power jerk or squat jerk don't you BFold?

In any case you only dip low enough catch the weight just before it is about to go back down when it runs out of speed. It does take timing and lots of practise. Failure to do so means a lot of extra unnecessary force on the body

Your probbaly pressing the bar too, this is somthing he doesn't do, he just pops it up with his legs and dips or sues his arms to push himself under the bar, (enough to satisfy the rules) to catch it. It is probbaly still going up for him :)

I watched the clip in frame by frame advance in a vidoe player I found on the net, EOVideo and you can see this.
 
I think that's the key push yourself under the bar rather than push the bar up and dipping under.

Drive the bar up with legs and then use your arms to push yourself under the bar into the dip
 
Also Bfold did you see that clip I posted earlier, the 1995 tape preview part 2, there is a Chinese kid doing a Powerclean and then power jerk reps with 178lbs?

he did 5 reps from memory, his form is just about perfect

anyway if you dip low, you need flexibile shoulders or else the bar will go forward and lose balance. You need to keep the bar slightly behind the head - push head forward
 
CCJ: You got me correct. I was talking about the jerk portion...

I'll have to get that player when I'm done training and watch all the clips again. What you said makes sense.

B True
 
Nicu Vlad is an amazing athlete. I had a chance to watch him train while helping out at the junior worlds that were being held in Minnesota one year. It's hard to describe how incredibly fast and precise his movements are unless you see them in person. During his workout, every lift he did looked identical, from an empty bar to 190Kg (418Lbs) in the snatch. And what surprised me most is how incredibly quick he is for a big and tall man. I'd say he's at least 6' 2" and when I saw him, around 240Lbs bodyweight. When you watch the video, just focus on the position of Vlad's elbows and wrist throughout the lift. His turnover is so quick and precise even when compared to Botev who himself has excellent techique. I guess that's what I love about weightlifting. You can be a world champion many different ways. You can be built like a brick shithouse and be strong as an ox, like Botev, or you can be tall with extra ordinary athletism (like having a 42" vertical) and superior technique like Vlad. One more thing about Vlad, the first time I heard his name was during the 1984 Olympics in L.A. I remember being disappointed because he wiped out the last records that David Rigert held. Well, I would even think Rigert would appreciate that it was a lifter of Vlad's talent that broke them instead of a lifter of lesser talent.
 
He looks great, very smooth
funny he doesn't look as good on the clean and jerk, whereas Botev looks at home here :)
 
One more clip from 1996 tape

Pablo Lara 76kg lifter, frontsquats 210kg, powercleans and jerks 180kg and 190kg!
That has got to be the biggest powerclean (418lbs) anyone under 200lbs has even done :)

Also Chinese 70kg lifter clean and jerks 170 and 180kg

Hmm people think Olylifters are weak? :)

Right click and save
http://www.members.optushome.com.au/blitzf...ara_Chinese.wmv


another Lara clip from the 1995 tape 1

right click and save
http://www.members.optushome.com.au/blitzf...d_1995_Lara.wmv

guy is a powerhouse.

he does go pretty wide on the catch, one of his feet ends up in the platform mats, probbaly becuase he has long legs.
 
Pablo's vertical must be huge! Pound for pound, he's got to be amongst the most powerful athlete of any sport.
 
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