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7OF9

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What do you think is a good weight or an impressive weight to lift. I'm asking about, bench, deads, squats, & military (behind the neck to the shoulders). What I don't know is if this should be in low reps or singles. This is what I think (and this is for a single rep). No matter what 315lb in bench is nice. Squats, 405lb, I see as impressive. 225lb in military I feel is very sweet. These are not my numbers, but when I see people pushing this kind of iron, I do have much respect.
 
The only yardstick by which to measure should be your own past numbers.

Say you have a genetically cursed guy: lanky build, thin bone structure, crappy tendon insertion points. No matter what this guy does, apart from juicing, he will probably never achieve the numbers you lifted.

Then on the other hand you have a genetically gifted guy who has superior strength from the get-go.

Comparison between the two only diminishes the effort of dude number one, because his numbers after lifting for several years could still be less than the second guy after a measly few months.

-casualbb
 
Impressive weights are relative.

What I find impressive is the people who come in to the gym, bust their ass, and continually find ways to improve their strength and/or body.

A 405 squat was impressive until mine was in the mid 300s, now it's nothing great TO ME. However, if I see someone improve their strengh level dramatically and hit a squat at 405, I'll be impressed because of the improvement.

To me, IMPROVEMENT is what I find the most impressive. Numbers are relative, improvement is real.

Cuthbert
 
what about 405+ Bench, 495+ Squat, 585+ Deadlift, 275-315 military... thats the shit :D those aint my numbers, but i know a lad who can push that... i cant wait till i reach that:o
 
7OF9 said:
What do you think is a good weight or an impressive weight to lift. I'm asking about, bench, deads, squats, & military (behind the neck to the shoulders).

Like most have said, its all individual, however, no advanced trainer should even be doing behind the neck presses EVER. It's strictly a beginner exercise, as you get larger and use more weight, it becomes increasingly dangerous.

Bench - 315+ is always impressive
Squat - Depends on the person and style of squat
Deads - Depends on the person and style of deads
BTN Mil. Press - Dont do it...
 
i think its a size thing for me.

a 250lb man (lean cut muscular) benching 400 does not impress me. 500lb squat...so what?
if this guy is so big and has been training for so long, why doesnt he have the strength to match it
 
the amount of weight doesnt matter to me right now, im not lifting to increase my max, im lifting to improve my physique and because i love lifting. if i can look in the mirror and be happy with what i see, then im content with my lifts. if i look in the mirror and think im getting soft, ill make sure to work extra hard next time im in the gym, regardless of the amount of weight im lifting
 
In terms of strength and what's considered respectable, I think it's all relative. You'll always be impressed by those stronger than you.


Personally, I'm more impressed with effort, than weight. When you see someone going into the gym on a regular basis, with a no-nonsense attitude, going all-out all the time, that is truly impressive.
 
7OF9 said:
What do you think is a good weight or an impressive weight to lift. I'm asking about, bench, deads, squats, & military (behind the neck to the shoulders).

I'm not sure if behind necks, especially that low, are a real good idea to do regularly.

But all the others? It's relative.

What I don't know is if this should be in low reps or singles. This is what I think (and this is for a single rep). No matter what 315lb in bench is nice. Squats, 405lb, I see as impressive. 225lb in military I feel is very sweet. These are not my numbers, but when I see people pushing this kind of iron, I do have much respect.

I respect Seven of Nine's body FAR more ;)

On all those lifts, as I said, it depends.

315 can be a decent bench press, but if you're over 200 lbs., it's not enough to really be awe-inspiring ;) And it depends on the form. Does the guy lower the bar to chest, pause, then explode with even extension?

Squats are all about ROM. A half squat with 500 is far less impressive to me than a guy who can ass-to-the-floor with 315-365. To slightly below parallel, a guy at least needs to squat twice bodyweight to get into that respectable range.

Militaries? Depends. 225 is a good poundage, but if you can bench over 405, you need a bigger military press...probably at least 260.

Out of all that, I'd "respect" the guy pressing 225 the most I guess. But I try to respect everybody in the gym so long as they do me the same courtesy :)
 
I personally hate qualifying big weights relative to bodywieght because there is a large difference between a 5'7 guy at say 200 and a 6'4" guy at 200. relative strength is always in favor of the little guys. I'd say anyone militarying w/ 2 wheels is very respectable.
 
slobberknocker said:
In terms of strength and what's considered respectable, I think it's all relative. You'll always be impressed by those stronger than you.


Personally, I'm more impressed with effort, than weight. When you see someone going into the gym on a regular basis, with a no-nonsense attitude, going all-out all the time, that is truly impressive.

couldnt have said it better. i dont respect those big mofos who go in the gym and do the same workouts every day with crap form just because thats the only way they can show off. i do have respect for the people i see in my gym on a regular basis doing a good routine and they dont screw off. probably because thats how i am, 5 days a week im in there bustin my ass and i hate seein people in there screwin around and gettin in peoples and my way.

but for me its not about gettin respect from others, its all about the self respect and being happy.
 
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