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Iran has said consular officials can visit the 15 British sailors and marines

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Iran has said consular officials can visit the 15 British sailors and marines being held captive, but any hopes that they will be released quickly are fading

Iran's Foreign Minister, Manouchehr Mottaki, said the group will only be freed if Britain admits they had strayed into Iranian waters.

The British foreign office said access arrangements to the captives had yet to be confirmed.

"We await further details from the Iranian government on their undertaking to act on our request for consular access to the Royal Navy personnel," a spokesman said.

"We continue to press strongly for their immediate release."

Yesterday the service personnel were shown on Iranian TV


The video shows the group being arrested, eating food in captivity and carries an interview with Leading Seaman Faye Turney.

Turney is seen looking worried, wearing Iranian clothes and smoking. She admitted the group "trespassed" into Iranian waters.

"They were very friendly and very hospitable and nice people and explained to us why we were being arrested," she said.

Tehran said Turney is to be released soon and she will carry a letter to her parents confessing to what happened.


Leading Seaman Turney Britain's Foreign Office condemned the screening of the footage and said: "It is completely unacceptable for these pictures to be on television.

"There is no doubt that our personnel were seized in Iraqi waters and were entitled to be there."

The broadcast came after Tony Blair said the time had come to "ratchet up the pressure" on Iran.

Earlier the Ministry of Defence released evidence that the 15 captive sailors and marines were in Iraqi waters when they were snatched.

Those seized on Friday include married mother-of-one Mrs Turney, 26, and 21-year-old Paul Barton.


Letter of 'confession' carried by Faye Turney All 15 British personnel were detained at gun-point after they boarded a dhow carrying suspicious cargo off the coast of Iraq.

The sailors and marines have now been held in an unknown location for five days.

The MoD said the British vessel was 1.7 nautical miles inside Iraqi territory when it was seized - and revealed the exact co-ordinates of the event to back up its claim.

Vice Admiral Charles Style said the position had been confirmed publicly by the Iraqi foreign ministry.

He added the Iranian government had provided Britain with two different positions for the incident - the first placing it within Iraqi waters.

But a statement from the Iranian embassy to Sky News said the sailors had strayed "0.5km deep into the Iranian waters".

"The sailors illegally entered Iranian waters. Violation of international border and their intrusive act justified their detention," the statement said.

Iran's Foreign Minister said the UK must accept its sailors were arrested in Iranian waters.
 
today the cbc (canadian news) reported that the brits shot at the iranian embassy in baghdad..

the brits say they were shooting at terrorists.. lmao.. true story .
 
god what a debacle this would be if it was usa troops.
all the left wing hacks would be using this to further their poly causes...with all do respect to the best usa allies, I'm glad this happened to the UK and not the usa
 
mightymouse69 said:
why it didn't?
because it only furthered hatred between the jews and muslims,
made martyrs outta bombmakers.
and they are no closer to peace...
 
Gambino said:
that seemed to work out real swell in Palestine.
iran needs forcible regieme change


You drop Ahmednejad and Khameini from 1800 yds, that government falls from within.
 
Gambino said:
because it only furthered hatred between the jews and muslims,
made martyrs outta bombmakers.
and they are no closer to peace...

lol, I thought you were a student of history..

Jews Arabs peace? and you think its a result of targeted assasinations? maybe a course bro in middle east history would help you.
 
redguru said:
You drop Ahmednejad and Khameini from 1800 yds, that government falls from within.
or the assembly of experts turns him into a martyr and rallies the population against the infidel invader
i think it could go either way, and i don't think iran is a lay-down sally
 
Gambino said:
or the assembly of experts turns him into a martyr and rallies the population against the infidel invader
i think it could go either way, and i don't think iran is a lay-down sally

you realize 70% of the Iranian population doesn't support the current govt. right?
 
mightymouse69 said:
you realize 70% of the Iranian population doesn't support the current govt. right?
and how much of the population supports usa invasion or assination of their leader?
 
mightymouse69 said:
ummm, cuz they hate him.

you see where i'm getting at dude.
regardless of their hate for him, they wouldn't think we were awesome for invading and slaying their people
 
Gambino said:
you see where i'm getting at dude.
regardless of their hate for him, they wouldn't think we were awesome for invading and slaying their people

yes, but there is no way any more hatred could develop between jews and arabs at this point.
 
Gambino said:
you see where i'm getting at dude.
regardless of their hate for him, they wouldn't think we were awesome for invading and slaying their people

Who says it would be an invasion. We already have Special Forces peepes in Iran, I am sure. We take the shot, set up a fall guy, looks like Iranian killing Iranian.
 
redguru said:
Who says it would be an invasion. We already have Special Forces peepes in Iran, I am sure. We take the shot, set up a fall guy, looks like Iranian killing Iranian.

nice, your hired bro!
 
redguru said:
Who says it would be an invasion. We already have Special Forces peepes in Iran, I am sure. We take the shot, set up a fall guy, looks like Iranian killing Iranian.

sounds so much better on paper...something always gets fucked up in these covert ops, esp taking out someone has heavily guarded as amdebmwtf.
 
Gambino said:
sounds so much better on paper...something always gets fucked up in these covert ops, esp taking out someone has heavily guarded as amdebmwtf.

have you read or seen "The Day of the Jackal"...
great stuff.
 
mightymouse69 said:
have you read or seen "The Day of the Jackal"...
great stuff.
no...what's the outline?
and i'm drawing a blank here...what was the mission when the helicopters fucked up and i think one crashed into a dc-10...was that to get the usa embassy hostages?
or was that in africa somewhere
 
Gambino said:
no...what's the outline?
and i'm drawing a blank here...what was the mission when the helicopters fucked up and i think one crashed into a dc-10...was that to get the usa embassy hostages
or was that in africa somewhere

That was to get the Embassy hostages out. They lost two helos in a sandstorm and then another failed hydraulics, When aborting the mission another helo flew into a refueling tanker killing the Aircrew of both aircraft.
 
Oh, as a side note:

"A copy of the Hebrew translation of The Day of the Jackal was found in possession of Yigal Amir, the extreme-right militant who assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin on November 4, 1995. As published in the Israeli press at the time, police investigators believed that the assassination was partially inspired by the book, and that Amir used it as a kind of "how to" manual. "
 
mightymouse69 said:
you realize 70% of the Iranian population doesn't support the current govt. right?

ah yes...but the Iranians who support democracy will not uprise because they remember how we shafted the Iraqi's who tried to overthrow Saddam.
 
gotmilk said:
ah yes...but the Iranians who support democracy will not uprise because they remember how we shafted the Iraqi's who tried to overthrow Saddam.

Isn't the Shah's son still alive?
 
Gambino said:
yeah that seems like something i would dig
historical fiction mixed in with non-fiction
i wonder if now in days it would even be possible, assinating heads of state

did you see my follow-up post?

"A copy of the Hebrew translation of The Day of the Jackal was found in possession of Yigal Amir, the extreme-right militant who assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin on November 4, 1995. As published in the Israeli press at the time, police investigators believed that the assassination was partially inspired by the book, and that Amir used it as a kind of "how to" manual. "
 
redguru said:
That was to get the Embassy hostages out. They lost two helos in a sandstorm and then another failed hydraulics, When aborting the mission another helo flew into a refueling tanker killing the Aircrew of both aircraft.
kinda makes me lose faith in the more sophisticated special ops
 
Gambino said:
kinda makes me lose faith in the more sophisticated special ops

that was COMPLETELY a Carter Snafu, he admitted it, they needed one more copter which he didn't approve to complete this mission.
 
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