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Interesting facts (truth)coming out about Trayvon

Obama generally only comments about issues he is directly asked about. If nobody asks him that's not his fault.


the esse should really have kept his mouth shut on this one though..seriously. It's obviously not as bad as when the republicans tried to step into the Shiavo case but it's along the same lines...there's some things the president ought to stay out of, especially since he knew at the time about as much as we did about the whole thing. The accredited response of his should have been no fucking comment now ask me shit about how i'm running the country.
 
A sitting president has no business commenting on an open local level investigation. His comments do nothing but cause undue influence before all facts have been uncovered.
 
to me the whole issue boils down to the good old fashioned "he started it" Zimmerman had no fucking business playing vigilante, specially after being told to stand down, even more when the kid tried to run AWAY from him.



He was not told to stand down, he was told they didn't need him to keep following, which is completely different than being ordered (like the dispatcher has any authority to order someone to do anything anyways) to stop. At that point his breathing into the phone slowed down according to the tape and dispatcher, which would signify that he was not running after the kid any longer (most likely).

The relatively short distance to the place Trayvon was going shows that he would have had to double back and come back to Zimmerman and start the confrontation unless you believe a high school football player in decent shape would need 90 seconds to go the couple hundred yards to his fathers fiancees house. I posted a very detailed link earlier in the thread. Hiding the coached, coerced testimony of the supposed GF behind her being a minor is pretty fucking weak.

GZ had a CCW for his firearm, which makes him carrying it legal in any place not specifically prohibited by law or by a sign from the owner of the property.

Other evidence could be released to complicate the process more, and it seems like that would be par for the course during this investigation. The fact remains that the sum of the facts so far bolster GZ's version of events. Had race baiting opportunists not taken this case by the reigns a calmer public would undoubtedly have a less skewed version of the facts and evidence in the case.

It's very unfortunate that people are using this case as a case against gun ownership. :Boomstick
 
you can't provoke an altercation then pull a gun once you're getting your ass kicked. It's really just that simple. I have no doubt the kid finally bowed up and jumped him, so would most of the people here. As soon as he disobeyed the dispatcher he lost all his standing.

If he jumped him it was the kid starting the confrontation. End of story.

I'll say it again, maybe it will stick in your head this time. HE DIDNT DISOBEY THE DISPATCHER, THE DISPATCHER DIDNT ORDER HIM TO DO ANYTHING.
 
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