Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Ok let me clarify a few things. I am new now I have been on this board before a couple years back. Either way this is in the planning stages. I have bout 8 cycles under my belt I have been lifting for about 10 years with the use of AS for the last 4 or so. My stats are 6'3" 230lbs 11% BF right now. Age 29. I have not used GH before and have been reading mixed reviews on several other boards on whether or not to use Insulin. Personally I have done alot of work with diabetics and dont want to touch the stuff at all. I guess a better question would be is GH still very effective without using the slin. This is the question I have been getting mixed answers on. Some people swear by using them in conjuntion it has always been my belief that GH is great alone with strong diet and AAS. Also for those just to put it out there I am in the Medical field and am fully aware of the scientific nature of both compounds being here is strictly to get the real life aspect from others that have used it and their results. Thanks any input is greatly appreciated on your personal results.
Insulin or not to Insulin
- Thread starter juicey62
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no pro card = no 'slin. for use of gh, use herbal insulin support to make-up the mild suppression
Simple fact is you wont gain very much muscle mas w/o insulin/T3 along with your GH as you will on GH alone. the synergy of the compounds is extremely impressive. So really it depends on your goals.
If you want to gain a shit load of muscle, use slin wisely. If you want some additional fat loss and some synergy with AAS to increase IGF production, then dont.
99% of guys shouldnt use insulin.
I am on my first ever insulin/GH/T3 run. I am pretty experienced though and am using 6iu of slin in the AM and 4iu after my workouts(total protocol length will be 21 days). Best I can tell you is the shit will make you ravenously hungry so make sure you have food around you at all times. lol
If you want to gain a shit load of muscle, use slin wisely. If you want some additional fat loss and some synergy with AAS to increase IGF production, then dont.
99% of guys shouldnt use insulin.
I am on my first ever insulin/GH/T3 run. I am pretty experienced though and am using 6iu of slin in the AM and 4iu after my workouts(total protocol length will be 21 days). Best I can tell you is the shit will make you ravenously hungry so make sure you have food around you at all times. lol
Wulfgar I like your posts very informative and straight to the point!
Juiced62 what are looking for or what is it that you think or believe gh is going to do for you?
Juiced62 what are looking for or what is it that you think or believe gh is going to do for you?
Cardinal Slin
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Wulfgar, just curious, don't you think you should be doing the other way round?
6iu post workout and 4iu in the morning?
Won't go in to details as you clearly know why I am asking but just curious what your rationale is for doing it the other way round
6iu post workout and 4iu in the morning?
Won't go in to details as you clearly know why I am asking but just curious what your rationale is for doing it the other way round
I realize most guys would do 6 iu post workout and 4 iu in the AM. I do it my way simply because of the times of the day I workout and how my meals are structured. I eat more before my workouts than after and I also workout a bit later so I dont want to severe a drop in blood sugar or any active insulin in my system when I decide to go to bed.
Also my morning meals are where I consume the bulk of my daily Kcals so I want the highest absorption rates there. The lower insulin levels throughout the day give the GH the ability to exhibit their fat burning properties without to much exogenous insulin impeding that particular function of the GH( which by the way I am dosing 2iu 3-4xdaily for 3 days then taking 4 days off)
50 mg T3 daily is added to this stack as well to ensure proper metabolic upregulation
Ok thanks for your response wulfgar I appreciate your direct response. Based on what I read that was my understanding as well. I feel like I am at the point that I have stressed my fibers almost completely and am looking to create some new muscle fibers to start abusing basically. I want more muscle and the most bang for my buck is my goal. If that mean taking slin then I will continue doing my research and do it properly. Wulfgar you said you are doing the slin for 21 days. HOw long are you cycling the slin on and off and how long are you doing the GH for? What does your overall GH cycle look like with the Slin and T3
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ALIN
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No No No No No No No No No, insulin is for idiots, it makes you fat, it will put on weight but it will all be fat and water and you will be lucky if you get fat, you will not be so lucky if you die because insulin will kill you.
Yes my friend, insulin will seriously fook u up, it will make u stop producing insulin naturally and u will just turn in to a fat sausage.
Don't do insulin. It will kill you. It kills like 11 out of 10 users all the time!
Only cheaters use insulin, but those who use steroids are super heroes
come on now...'kills 11 of 10 users all the time'???
sensible professional use is the only effective route with insulin.
Cardinal Slin
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alin, I am assuming you obviously didn't get my sense of humour?
I am tired of defending insulin only to hear the typical and generic crap 'insulin kills', 'insulin is only for cheaters', 'insulin makes you fat'.
No other choice than to type what they want to hear cause otherwise they get all heated up and take what is said personally
Yeah that was my take on it from you Cardinal..have seen you posting up insulin protocols and clearly your a fan but still it is something that needs to be treated with great care. For most guys it should not be an option. Too many things can go wrong if your not completely aware of what your doing.
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