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insomnia is getting to me.

patdiddy

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Hey bros, for the last 2 or 3 weeks Ive been tossing and turning all nite. Im lucky if i get 3 good hours of sleep at nite. Which is fine but I drive an hour to work everyday and im fading in and out on the wheel. I know its from the tren. What do you guys take when your having sleeping issues?
 
bro i went thoriugh this same shit in the beggining of my cyle when i was using tren and nothing really worked for me
i tried weed ,ambien ,some other sleeping pill ,valerian root nothing really worked except for stopping the tren
i was able to get to sleep but it took awhile and then my brain would wonder and it would make things worse
i know some people have had luck with ,melatonin,5htp and i think there is a few more
i got to the point that i was friggen sleep walking at work because i was gettin like 3 hours of sleep a night ,working 10 hours hitting the gym like an animal it just wore me down
try to lower your dose maybe that will help
good luck man
 
i also tried valiums and xanax and they didnt work either
usually one quater of a xanax stick will knock me right out not while on tren
 
DONT DO XANAX'S or VALIUM !! That shit is addictive as fuck. They are psychiatric drugs not sleeping pills. :evil:

Go to the herb store and get you something. There are plenty of things there. Melatonin is a good one and their are others.

You sure don't want to be hooked on xanax's or valiums or any of that shit. Just because you can't sleep.

There are other non addictive things that will help you sleep.
 
+1 on the Xanax comments. They will knock you out but honestly I don't think it's worth it. Of course, I'm not having insomnia problems yet on my tren. I will say that I used to pop xanax like crazy 5 years ago. Just not worth it.

I hope you get some sleep bro!
 
Well, since obviously we all use a "banned substance" then most likely most people here arent against using other forms of medication.

For me I personally have EXTREMELY BAD sleeping problems due to regular insomnia coupled with a rare abnormality in my back which hurts constantly and keeps me from ever being comfortable.

I have to use different methods to get consistent sleep, and that involves me rotating medications to keep my tolerance down. I rotate from NyQuil, to TylenolPM or other OTC meds/Ambiens and Xanax/and smoking weed.

My personal choice is Xanax. I love them. They put me down whenever I am ready. I take half of one with dinner almost every night, and a glass of red wine. About an hour later im half-ass loopy and can lay it down whenever im ready for the most part. I also smoke weed every night to help alleviate the back pain and put me down.

So I hate to advise someone who is having sleeping problems to try what I try because I dont want to tell someone HEY MAN SMOKE SOME DOPE AND POP A XANAX AND YOU'LL BE STRAIGHT! ... but, thats what I gotta do, lol.

Also, someone recommended Sonata... I got prescribed that and it was too weak for me.

Hope this info "helped" at least a lil hehe. :coffee:
 
Use the cocaine users old standby. Drink half a bottle of Ny Quil. Hell, my bitch old lady used to do that so she wouldn't be up all night and I would be onto her game.
 
Thanks for all the help guys. im gonna try tylenol pm 2nite. if that doesnt work nyquil, if that doesnt work ill resort to xanax. Appreciate all the concern about it being addictive but Ive taking them here and there and take vikes every now and then. Droping the tren is not an option.
 
how much tren are you taking? I'm just about done with my first tren cycle, about 50mg ED... surprisngly, the insomnia hasn't been as bad as I expected, and I have trouble sleeping in general.... I usually have a full arsenal of sleeping and anxiety RX's, natural herbs, etc. stocked-up, many of which don't even help sometimes... here are a few more (non-RX, non OTC-med) suggestions: take some zinc & magnesium about 30 minutes before bed.... also try oxytocin from AF store, again about 30-45 minutes before bed.... maybe even some chamomile or kava tea....
 
theres an otc product called simply sleep
my boy uses them to fall out after his coke binges it might be worth a try
i beleive it has the same shit as tylenol pm without the tylenol
good luck man
 
wellbilt said:
theres an otc product called simply sleep
my boy uses them to fall out after his coke binges it might be worth a try
i beleive it has the same shit as tylenol pm without the tylenol
good luck man


its very similar to tylenolPM and Ive began using it recently. Ive restocked twice now hehe. I like them... but I havent had them long enough to make a real good comparison to some of my other suggestions. They put me down more gently than the others, but it still seems to get the job done.
 
wellbilt said:
i got to the point that i was friggen sleep walking at work because i was gettin like 3 hours of sleep a night ,working 10 hours hitting the gym like an animal it just wore me down
try to lower your dose maybe that will help
good luck man


LMAO! I remember one guy I sed to work with went to the restroom and re-appeared 7 hours later having woken up!!!!
 
try benedril, two tabes buts me right out, cheep and otc. I like ambien too , works better if you take two instead of one, much better they should make them 20mg instead of 10.
 
Ulter said:
I agree with drdug27 that P Seven Orange is great to relax tren users.

I add 25mg atarax which you can buy online at a thousand pharmacies, if it's real bad.
i used p seven and oxycalm and still had problems
the tren just got to me nothing worked ,didnt help that i had alot of shit going through my head
i did like the efects of p seven and oxycalm it did relax me a lil
i just stopped the tren and its much better but so is my head lol
 
maxpain said:
DONT DO XANAX'S or VALIUM !! That shit is addictive as fuck. They are psychiatric drugs not sleeping pills. :evil:

Go to the herb store and get you something. There are plenty of things there. Melatonin is a good one and their are others.

You sure don't want to be hooked on xanax's or valiums or any of that shit. Just because you can't sleep.

There are other non addictive things that will help you sleep.

The studies I have read on Melatonin show that it is only effective when taken to put you to sleep outside of your natural circadium cycle - i.e. effective if you are getting over jet lag or worked the graveyard shift but not at your normal sleep time when your body is already producing it. More is not better from what I've read.
 
Here the log bros,

Night 1. Tylenol Pm, Didnt do a god damn thing 4 me. It knocked me out but i was still tossing and turning all night.

Tonight i will try something new. where can i get P seven, 4 simply sleep. A friend of mine has a pharmacy, anything i should get from him
 
riverrock said:
LMAO! I remember one guy I sed to work with went to the restroom and re-appeared 7 hours later having woken up!!!!


This may have been me. I used to do this in my younger years while telemarketing. I would stay logged in to the system, put my phone on hold, and go sleep in a stall. Of course the 2 joints I smoked before and after lunch probably did not help....ahhh to be young again.
 
I didn't mean "4 Simply Sleep" as the product name. I was saying I take 4 Simply Sleep pills. Try taking more tylenol pm or if your friend has a pharmacy then try the smallest milligram of Xanax they make. I believe its 0.25. I would try everything else mentioned first before trying the Xanax though. I hope you you find something that works for you bro. Good luck.
 
I always get insomnia when I cycle. It sucks!! I hate trying to treat the problem with meds especially anything addictive. I have taken Benadryl when I just had to sleep and couldn't fall asleep. I don't think I would want to do that often though. I find myself getting tired in the day and if I am able, I just take a knap. If not, then I hope I fall asleep after sitting there tossing and turning for 1-2 hours.
 
Xanex, valium, kolonopin ect, ect, would work well(all bezos) however if you have any addictive tendancies I really don't know about trying these as sleep aids. The withdrawal from benzos is worse then withdrawal from opiates they are very addictive. Ambien always worked for me although my new doc refuses to prescribe them.
 
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